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d21lewis said:
brendude13 said:
d21lewis said:
The problem is, they get these jurors who are not supposed to have any prior knowledge of the case. While our opinions are formed by the media and circumstances that aren't admissable to court, all the jurors can consider is the evidence. There were some holes that just weren't answered by the prosecution. It's easy for us to sit here and say "She's guilty and deserves to die" (How easy? I'll say it right now--Casey Anthony is guilty and deserves to die) but we weren't the ones that had to sit there and look at her for weeks on end and then decide that, based on our decision, she would be condemned to death. Didn't you guys see The DArk Knight? Nobody wants to get their hands dirty!

It would be one thing if there was a confession or a smoking gun. All we had was circumstantial evidence to go on. While I could personally convict somebody based on circumstantial evidence and a little common sense, I don't think I could kill somebody without absolute certainty. I just don't believe the intent to kill was there. They should have never tried to convict that slut of anything more than manslaughter. To charge anybody with ANY crime, you have to be able to prove all of the elements of the crime (intent, included). If a single element isn't accounted for, the case is lost. With murder, they had to prove Casey intended to kill her daughter. With manslaughter, all they had to prove was that Casey was responsible.

And because of that, a killer is going to walk free.

That's what I was thinking. If she wasn't found guilt of murder, couldn't they drop the charges to manslaughter though? I think everybody knows she is responsible for something, just letting her go like this is unnaceptable.

That's the crazy thing about our court system.  It's sort of an all or nothing deal.  They had to charge her with what they think they can prove.  I'm sure Casey was given the option "If you go ahead and plead guilty, we're going to just charge you with manslaughter.  If you don't, we'll charge you with murder." type deal.  Obiously, Anthony maintained her innocence and the prosecution couldn't prove she was a murderer.  Now, she can't be given another trial because, if you're found innocent, you're innocent.  It was the decision of the court.  She could have been found guilty and then fought it but, like a video game, when you win, you won.  None of the losses matter.

It works both ways.  I remember going to court for a guy that commited armed robbery.  The state told him that if he pled guilty, he'd do 5-10 years.  The guy didn't want to take the deal and the judge slammed him with 40 year of prison!!  Anthony rolled the dice and beat the system.  Maybe she beat the court system but I have a feeling she's going to have to look over her shoulder for a long time to come.....  And I'm willing to bet that she's so psycho that she already convinced herself that she's innocent.  She really is a nutcase. 

I think that the court system needs to be more "set in stone", none of these deals or "if you're found innocent, you're innocent" nonsense, so many people are getting away with the most horrific of crimes.

It's such a shame that they tried for murder, rather than manslaughter. While I think there was sufficient evidence, the jury might not agree, and the woman is insane. They gambled and they failed, being found guilty of manslaughter would have given her a sufficient prison sentence.

Hopefully she gets what's coming to her. If she doesn't end up in prison, she could at least be put into a mental hospital.



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brendude13 said:
d21lewis said:
brendude13 said:
d21lewis said:
The problem is, they get these jurors who are not supposed to have any prior knowledge of the case. While our opinions are formed by the media and circumstances that aren't admissable to court, all the jurors can consider is the evidence. There were some holes that just weren't answered by the prosecution. It's easy for us to sit here and say "She's guilty and deserves to die" (How easy? I'll say it right now--Casey Anthony is guilty and deserves to die) but we weren't the ones that had to sit there and look at her for weeks on end and then decide that, based on our decision, she would be condemned to death. Didn't you guys see The DArk Knight? Nobody wants to get their hands dirty!

It would be one thing if there was a confession or a smoking gun. All we had was circumstantial evidence to go on. While I could personally convict somebody based on circumstantial evidence and a little common sense, I don't think I could kill somebody without absolute certainty. I just don't believe the intent to kill was there. They should have never tried to convict that slut of anything more than manslaughter. To charge anybody with ANY crime, you have to be able to prove all of the elements of the crime (intent, included). If a single element isn't accounted for, the case is lost. With murder, they had to prove Casey intended to kill her daughter. With manslaughter, all they had to prove was that Casey was responsible.

And because of that, a killer is going to walk free.

That's what I was thinking. If she wasn't found guilt of murder, couldn't they drop the charges to manslaughter though? I think everybody knows she is responsible for something, just letting her go like this is unnaceptable.

That's the crazy thing about our court system.  It's sort of an all or nothing deal.  They had to charge her with what they think they can prove.  I'm sure Casey was given the option "If you go ahead and plead guilty, we're going to just charge you with manslaughter.  If you don't, we'll charge you with murder." type deal.  Obiously, Anthony maintained her innocence and the prosecution couldn't prove she was a murderer.  Now, she can't be given another trial because, if you're found innocent, you're innocent.  It was the decision of the court.  She could have been found guilty and then fought it but, like a video game, when you win, you won.  None of the losses matter.

It works both ways.  I remember going to court for a guy that commited armed robbery.  The state told him that if he pled guilty, he'd do 5-10 years.  The guy didn't want to take the deal and the judge slammed him with 40 year of prison!!  Anthony rolled the dice and beat the system.  Maybe she beat the court system but I have a feeling she's going to have to look over her shoulder for a long time to come.....  And I'm willing to bet that she's so psycho that she already convinced herself that she's innocent.  She really is a nutcase. 

I think that the court system needs to be more "set in stone", none of these deals or "if you're found innocent, you're innocent" nonsense, so many people are getting away with the most horrific of crimes.

It's such a shame that they tried for murder, rather than manslaughter. While I think there was sufficient evidence, the jury might not agree, and the woman is insane. They gambled and they failed, being found guilty of manslaughter would have given her a sufficient prison sentence.

Hopefully she gets what's coming to her. If she doesn't end up in prison, she could at least be put into a mental hospital.

As I stated earlier, they could have found her guilty of manslaughter, but chose not to on a lack of evidence.



Fayceless said:

As I stated earlier, they could have found her guilty of manslaughter, but chose not to on a lack of evidence.


They tried aggravated manslaughter.  They could have gone with voluntary or involuntary manslaughter.  There's a difference. Probably would have stood a better chance.  Even then, the big question is how did Caylee die?  Even now, with mom dodging a bullet, there is still no way of knowing exactly how the little girl died.

It just racks my brain.  Mom waited so long to tell someone (she probably NEVER would have said anything), the girl is found in the woods, and she lies about everything and everyone related to the incident (my kid is with the nanny. my kid is in the park. the nanny has kidnapped my kid and lets me talk to her on the phone. etc. etc. etc.).  I just don't get it.



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Well now people are going crazy over a limited edition Casey Anthony mask that will be used for halloween, and last week some lady was ran off the road who looked like Casey. So she should probably stay hidden for a while longer. And S.T.A.G.E if you end up living next to her you could make a bunch of money telling the media where she is!!



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spurgeonryan said:
Well now people are going crazy over a limited edition Casey Anthony mask that will be used for halloween, and last week some lady was ran off the road who looked like Casey. So she should probably stay hidden for a while longer. And S.T.A.G.E if you end up living next to her you could make a bunch of money telling the media where she is!!

The question is when the book or movie deal comes to light. That's when she'll clean up and resentment against her is going to explode



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Well if you are against her this will make you happy!

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/01/casey-anthony-to-return-to-florida-to-serve-probation-from-check-fraud/#content

Seems she has some probation time to serve...



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I've always found the American justice system to be terribly flawed. Who in his right mind thinks that 12 random incompetent individuals should be giving a verdict on a case?



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d21lewis said:
Fayceless said:
 

As I stated earlier, they could have found her guilty of manslaughter, but chose not to on a lack of evidence.


They tried aggravated manslaughter.  They could have gone with voluntary or involuntary manslaughter.  There's a difference. Probably would have stood a better chance.  Even then, the big question is how did Caylee die?  Even now, with mom dodging a bullet, there is still no way of knowing exactly how the little girl died.

It just racks my brain.  Mom waited so long to tell someone (she probably NEVER would have said anything), the girl is found in the woods, and she lies about everything and everyone related to the incident (my kid is with the nanny. my kid is in the park. the nanny has kidnapped my kid and lets me talk to her on the phone. etc. etc. etc.).  I just don't get it.

Well, maybe if she hadn't left the little girl's corpse to rot in a swamp, they could've established the cause of death in an autopsy.



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mrstickball said:
In America, unlike other places, its "Innocent until proven guilty".

Yes, in this case its aggravating as there was tons of circumstantial evidence pointing to her killing her daughter. However, it was just that -circumstantial. The prosecution did a horrible job of throwing everyone at Casey and didn't try to make the case simple, and provide the best evidences. When you do that, your not going to have a fantastic go as the defense can poke holes in the circumstantial evidence.

Is the American justice system flawed? Yes. But I still believe that, overall, it provides good outcomes. Eventually, the court of public opinion will have its day against Casey, and we will find justice somehow, some way.

What were you expecting exactly? A video of her killing the child? 'Cause in that case, it'll be hard to convict anyone.



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Fayceless said:
Chroniczaaa said:
Lolz America's justice system is a piece of shit.


Why?  Would you rather we just locked up everybody accused of a crime?

We have the absolute best justice system. (though far from perfect)  We do not have the best laws or prison system - this is an important distinction.

And nobody should ever, ever, say the justice system is bad because somebody they think is guilty goes free.  "better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer"  This is the beauty of our justice system.

Plus, you don't know what went on in that courtroom, or that jury room.  You don't have any more evidence than the media showed you.  You have no right to form an opinion on this case - you weren't there!

 

It seems to me that this is a simple case of "Beyond a reasonable doubt."  While it seems likely that she is guilty, it is not certain.  Therefore, she should not be sent to prison.

This is the most idiotic thing I've heard today.



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