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Who will win the handheld gaming system battle?

Playstation Vita 135 36.68%
 
Nintendo 3DS 212 57.61%
 
Nintendo will win the bat... 13 3.53%
 
SONY will win the battle,... 8 2.17%
 
Total:368
BenVTrigger said:
Honestly I think we are going to see a bid drop on both of these handhleds over there predecessors. They both have high price tags for a portable machine and phone and tablet games have seriously grown since the DS and PSP launched.

I just think its a loseing battle for them but we'll see. Vita could possibly see some good success for the hardcore gamers but I don't really see much reason for a more casual person to pick one up. 3DS at least has those mass market titles like Mario, Zelda, and such which the Vita, and really Sony as a whole lacks.

So I guess final prediction from me is that 3DS outsells Vita in the end but neither see an increase in marketshare compared to the previous systems and in fact see quite a drop in marketshare.


yeah I don't see the 3DS sell as many units as the DS, but I could always be wrong.



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dahuman said:
small44 said:
dahuman said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
dahuman said:
Gilgamesh said:

Vita hands down.


Gilga, you are really not worried about downgraded high profile game franchiases from the PS3? Sony needs to get a lot more games like Patapon or Locorocco etc. with good advertisement and a more global appeal in whacky ass games for it to sell to the masses, I mean a ton more, and from 3rd parties as well, they don't have the same image that Nintendo has already built, and what if Capcom and Nintendo do have an agreement on Monster Hunter down the road, 3DS is perfectly capable of a good Monster Hunter game now unlike the DS, what happens to Japan then? Sony has a lot of hurdles to overcome.


I don't understand this only console IP on PSV mentality...it's just rediculous..it's almost as if no one has even seen the line up of games for the device >_>

I'm obviously aware of what they have, but if they want to stand above Nintendo, they have a lot of reimage to do. Looking at how well something like Brain Age sold is borderline ridiculous, it's not graphics intensive, not super whacky, it's just a straight up...... global game, Nintendo is just better at making global mass appeal games than Sony ATM. People want to play something like Uncharted or Call of Duty on a big ass screen with good stereo and huge explosions offering orgasms to your eyes, that's not something a 5 inch screen can offer, so they need more portable games that can drag people in, and that's the real hard part considering only Japan is really buying the PSP right now.


You talk about new IP?

Do you don't know sony announced 8 new Ip all are casual game exept gravity daze and gelding

Real Fighters

Little Deviant

Mr. Ink Jet

Smart As

Broken

Sound Shapes

And then you say sonuy need new Ip sony need casual games.

And when people say my favorite it's uncharted golden abyss that prouve you are wrong people want good game it dosn't metter if games are new ip or port or casual or hardcore games

 

 

read bold, and I don't care about Golden Abyss one bit, I care about Drake's Deception. Same reason I don't play God of War stuff on PSP, the scale is too different. If the PSV is the only system somebody'll have though, sure, go for it. People have this hard on with Uncharted anything now, it's horrible, the real goods are the devs in ND. I've played Resistance Retribution, I'm not impressed by the studio making Golden Abyss one bit.

Also, casual games =/= global appeal games, I've never once mentioned "casual," that's a shitty word to describe games just like "hardcore" is a dumb word for games as well. Games are games, they have their genres, casual and hardcore are not fucking genres, that kind of distinction means you don't truly understand video games. "Can Sony change their image to have more appeal to more of the masses in the world?" is the real question, not what people wish to see.

I play resistance retribution and it's one of my best psp game beacuse limitation of hardware the game is not as good as game in the same seirie on ps3 or even the ps3.The studio who's making uncharted golden abyss do a good job when i see the game i say the studio is as good as naughty dog.

Mario and zelda are  game for masses but the gamecube has a mario but failed in sale and don't think Nintendo IP is enougth to make big sale  even the price is a big factor.

Mario fan will buy a 3ds but even modnation racer fan will buy psvita,little big planet fan will buy a psvita,uncharted fan will buy psvita not the magority of gamer buy a console for 1 game but for a list of game.



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

small44 said:
dahuman said:
small44 said:
dahuman said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
dahuman said:
Gilgamesh said:

Vita hands down.


Gilga, you are really not worried about downgraded high profile game franchiases from the PS3? Sony needs to get a lot more games like Patapon or Locorocco etc. with good advertisement and a more global appeal in whacky ass games for it to sell to the masses, I mean a ton more, and from 3rd parties as well, they don't have the same image that Nintendo has already built, and what if Capcom and Nintendo do have an agreement on Monster Hunter down the road, 3DS is perfectly capable of a good Monster Hunter game now unlike the DS, what happens to Japan then? Sony has a lot of hurdles to overcome.


I don't understand this only console IP on PSV mentality...it's just rediculous..it's almost as if no one has even seen the line up of games for the device >_>

I'm obviously aware of what they have, but if they want to stand above Nintendo, they have a lot of reimage to do. Looking at how well something like Brain Age sold is borderline ridiculous, it's not graphics intensive, not super whacky, it's just a straight up...... global game, Nintendo is just better at making global mass appeal games than Sony ATM. People want to play something like Uncharted or Call of Duty on a big ass screen with good stereo and huge explosions offering orgasms to your eyes, that's not something a 5 inch screen can offer, so they need more portable games that can drag people in, and that's the real hard part considering only Japan is really buying the PSP right now.


You talk about new IP?

Do you don't know sony announced 8 new Ip all are casual game exept gravity daze and gelding

Real Fighters

Little Deviant

Mr. Ink Jet

Smart As

Broken

Sound Shapes

And then you say sonuy need new Ip sony need casual games.

And when people say my favorite it's uncharted golden abyss that prouve you are wrong people want good game it dosn't metter if games are new ip or port or casual or hardcore games

 

 

read bold, and I don't care about Golden Abyss one bit, I care about Drake's Deception. Same reason I don't play God of War stuff on PSP, the scale is too different. If the PSV is the only system somebody'll have though, sure, go for it. People have this hard on with Uncharted anything now, it's horrible, the real goods are the devs in ND. I've played Resistance Retribution, I'm not impressed by the studio making Golden Abyss one bit.

Also, casual games =/= global appeal games, I've never once mentioned "casual," that's a shitty word to describe games just like "hardcore" is a dumb word for games as well. Games are games, they have their genres, casual and hardcore are not fucking genres, that kind of distinction means you don't truly understand video games. "Can Sony change their image to have more appeal to more of the masses in the world?" is the real question, not what people wish to see.

I play resistance retribution and it's one of my best psp game beacuse limitation of hardware the game is not as good as game in the same seirie on ps3 or even the ps3.The studio who's making uncharted golden abyss do a good job when i see the game i say the studio is as good as naughty dog.

Mario and zelda are  game for masses but the gamecube has a mario but failed in sale and don't think Nintendo IP is enougth to make big sale  even the price is a big factor.

Mario fan will buy a 3ds but even modnation racer fan will buy psvita,little big planet fan will buy a psvita,uncharted fan will buy psvita not the magority of gamer buy a console for 1 game but for a list of game.


I don't think you get what he is saying ...

Games like New Super Mario Bros, Mario Kart, Brain Training, and Animal Crossing have all been copied by countless companies and yet these games tend to sell an order of magnitude more games than their competition.



dahuman said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
dahuman said:
Gilgamesh said:

Vita hands down.


Gilga, you are really not worried about downgraded high profile game franchiases from the PS3? Sony needs to get a lot more games like Patapon or Locorocco etc. with good advertisement and a more global appeal in whacky ass games for it to sell to the masses, I mean a ton more, and from 3rd parties as well, they don't have the same image that Nintendo has already built, and what if Capcom and Nintendo do have an agreement on Monster Hunter down the road, 3DS is perfectly capable of a good Monster Hunter game now unlike the DS, what happens to Japan then? Sony has a lot of hurdles to overcome.


I don't understand this only console IP on PSV mentality...it's just rediculous..it's almost as if no one has even seen the line up of games for the device >_>

I'm obviously aware of what they have, but if they want to stand above Nintendo, they have a lot of reimage to do. Looking at how well something like Brain Age sold is borderline ridiculous, it's not graphics intensive, not super whacky, it's just a straight up...... global game, Nintendo is just better at making global mass appeal games than Sony ATM. People want to play something like Uncharted or Call of Duty on a big ass screen with good stereo and huge explosions offering orgasms to your eyes, that's not something a 5 inch screen can offer, so they need more portable games that can drag people in, and that's the real hard part considering only Japan is really buying the PSP right now.


your comment was about psv getting games like patapon and locoroco from the start, and that concern is moot looking at the line up. I suggest going and looking at the line up again. Quite a lot of the games revealed so far are new IP's which have been made specifically to take advantage of the portable. and of those there are already few games that are offer unique offerings that even 3ds has been unabled to do so even after all these months. Will they be successful? who knows but they look to be top quality games.

and you are quite wrong about uncharted and cod, maybe not all people, including you won't like it. But I would love to have such as experience on the go. if you don't like it it just means you are not the target market, simple as that. But again I recommend you checking the official thread or something, it has quite a few unique offerings already.

about the image, it's a matter of marketing really and having a good price point for the masses to enter. atm price point is not there for both systems. marketing, we will just have to see. I say this because psp had a lot of unique offerings on it as well, people either don't know of them or ignore them to benefit the argument.



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HappySqurriel said:
small44 said:
dahuman said:
small44 said:
dahuman said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
dahuman said:
Gilgamesh said:

Vita hands down.


Gilga, you are really not worried about downgraded high profile game franchiases from the PS3? Sony needs to get a lot more games like Patapon or Locorocco etc. with good advertisement and a more global appeal in whacky ass games for it to sell to the masses, I mean a ton more, and from 3rd parties as well, they don't have the same image that Nintendo has already built, and what if Capcom and Nintendo do have an agreement on Monster Hunter down the road, 3DS is perfectly capable of a good Monster Hunter game now unlike the DS, what happens to Japan then? Sony has a lot of hurdles to overcome.


I don't understand this only console IP on PSV mentality...it's just rediculous..it's almost as if no one has even seen the line up of games for the device >_>

I'm obviously aware of what they have, but if they want to stand above Nintendo, they have a lot of reimage to do. Looking at how well something like Brain Age sold is borderline ridiculous, it's not graphics intensive, not super whacky, it's just a straight up...... global game, Nintendo is just better at making global mass appeal games than Sony ATM. People want to play something like Uncharted or Call of Duty on a big ass screen with good stereo and huge explosions offering orgasms to your eyes, that's not something a 5 inch screen can offer, so they need more portable games that can drag people in, and that's the real hard part considering only Japan is really buying the PSP right now.


You talk about new IP?

Do you don't know sony announced 8 new Ip all are casual game exept gravity daze and gelding

Real Fighters

Little Deviant

Mr. Ink Jet

Smart As

Broken

Sound Shapes

And then you say sonuy need new Ip sony need casual games.

And when people say my favorite it's uncharted golden abyss that prouve you are wrong people want good game it dosn't metter if games are new ip or port or casual or hardcore games

 

 

read bold, and I don't care about Golden Abyss one bit, I care about Drake's Deception. Same reason I don't play God of War stuff on PSP, the scale is too different. If the PSV is the only system somebody'll have though, sure, go for it. People have this hard on with Uncharted anything now, it's horrible, the real goods are the devs in ND. I've played Resistance Retribution, I'm not impressed by the studio making Golden Abyss one bit.

Also, casual games =/= global appeal games, I've never once mentioned "casual," that's a shitty word to describe games just like "hardcore" is a dumb word for games as well. Games are games, they have their genres, casual and hardcore are not fucking genres, that kind of distinction means you don't truly understand video games. "Can Sony change their image to have more appeal to more of the masses in the world?" is the real question, not what people wish to see.

I play resistance retribution and it's one of my best psp game beacuse limitation of hardware the game is not as good as game in the same seirie on ps3 or even the ps3.The studio who's making uncharted golden abyss do a good job when i see the game i say the studio is as good as naughty dog.

Mario and zelda are  game for masses but the gamecube has a mario but failed in sale and don't think Nintendo IP is enougth to make big sale  even the price is a big factor.

Mario fan will buy a 3ds but even modnation racer fan will buy psvita,little big planet fan will buy a psvita,uncharted fan will buy psvita not the magority of gamer buy a console for 1 game but for a list of game.


I don't think you get what he is saying ...

Games like New Super Mario Bros, Mario Kart, Brain Training, and Animal Crossing have all been copied by countless companies and yet these games tend to sell an order of magnitude more games than their competition.

I don't talk about clone of nintendo IP i said mario is not enought to sell a lot a of consoles and win over another consoles.



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

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small44 said:
dahuman said:
small44 said:
dahuman said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
dahuman said:
Gilgamesh said:

Vita hands down.


Gilga, you are really not worried about downgraded high profile game franchiases from the PS3? Sony needs to get a lot more games like Patapon or Locorocco etc. with good advertisement and a more global appeal in whacky ass games for it to sell to the masses, I mean a ton more, and from 3rd parties as well, they don't have the same image that Nintendo has already built, and what if Capcom and Nintendo do have an agreement on Monster Hunter down the road, 3DS is perfectly capable of a good Monster Hunter game now unlike the DS, what happens to Japan then? Sony has a lot of hurdles to overcome.


I don't understand this only console IP on PSV mentality...it's just rediculous..it's almost as if no one has even seen the line up of games for the device >_>

I'm obviously aware of what they have, but if they want to stand above Nintendo, they have a lot of reimage to do. Looking at how well something like Brain Age sold is borderline ridiculous, it's not graphics intensive, not super whacky, it's just a straight up...... global game, Nintendo is just better at making global mass appeal games than Sony ATM. People want to play something like Uncharted or Call of Duty on a big ass screen with good stereo and huge explosions offering orgasms to your eyes, that's not something a 5 inch screen can offer, so they need more portable games that can drag people in, and that's the real hard part considering only Japan is really buying the PSP right now.


You talk about new IP?

Do you don't know sony announced 8 new Ip all are casual game exept gravity daze and gelding

Real Fighters

Little Deviant

Mr. Ink Jet

Smart As

Broken

Sound Shapes

And then you say sonuy need new Ip sony need casual games.

And when people say my favorite it's uncharted golden abyss that prouve you are wrong people want good game it dosn't metter if games are new ip or port or casual or hardcore games

 

 

read bold, and I don't care about Golden Abyss one bit, I care about Drake's Deception. Same reason I don't play God of War stuff on PSP, the scale is too different. If the PSV is the only system somebody'll have though, sure, go for it. People have this hard on with Uncharted anything now, it's horrible, the real goods are the devs in ND. I've played Resistance Retribution, I'm not impressed by the studio making Golden Abyss one bit.

Also, casual games =/= global appeal games, I've never once mentioned "casual," that's a shitty word to describe games just like "hardcore" is a dumb word for games as well. Games are games, they have their genres, casual and hardcore are not fucking genres, that kind of distinction means you don't truly understand video games. "Can Sony change their image to have more appeal to more of the masses in the world?" is the real question, not what people wish to see.

I play resistance retribution and it's one of my best psp game beacuse limitation of hardware the game is not as good as game in the same seirie on ps3 or even the ps3.The studio who's making uncharted golden abyss do a good job when i see the game i say the studio is as good as naughty dog.

Mario and zelda are  game for masses but the gamecube has a mario but failed in sale and don't think Nintendo IP is enougth to make big sale  even the price is a big factor.

Mario fan will buy a 3ds but even modnation racer fan will buy psvita,little big planet fan will buy a psvita,uncharted fan will buy psvita not the magority of gamer buy a console for 1 game but for a list of game.

That's my point, it's not a PS3, and I have a PS3, I'm not going to settle for a lesser experience when I know the main series would be higher quality.

3D Mario and Zelda are most certainly not for the masses lol, you need to understand what mass appeal means before we can discuss this topic.

Yeah, and because 3DS was released earlier, it will have that list faster. I didn't get my DS, Wii, or 3DS because of Mario though, that's for damn sure, and I sure as hell didn't get my PSPs for Modnation Racer or Little Big Planet heh.



small44 said:

I don't talk about clone of nintendo IP i said mario is not enought to sell a lot a of consoles and win over another consoles.


Mario alone may not be enough of a system seller, but I think the company who has 22 of the top 25 best selling games of all time can probably come up with some games that sell some consoles ...

Or to put it another way, Nintendo has a massive library of IPs that have huge demonstrated sales appeal, and over the past several years have been very successful at creating new genres and IPs that also have massive appeal. As a company, they have the potential to bring out a 20+ Million selling game, a couple 10+ million selling games, and many multi-million selling games every year; and their ability to produce platform selling software is equal to several of the next largest publishers combined.

First party Sony software (no matter how well reviewed) is not enough to surpass Nintendo's first party software in broad appeal; and, unless they can convince several large third party publishers to shun the 3DS, Sony will have difficulty unseating Nintendo's handheld dominance.



M.U.G.E.N said:
dahuman said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
dahuman said:
Gilgamesh said:

Vita hands down.


Gilga, you are really not worried about downgraded high profile game franchiases from the PS3? Sony needs to get a lot more games like Patapon or Locorocco etc. with good advertisement and a more global appeal in whacky ass games for it to sell to the masses, I mean a ton more, and from 3rd parties as well, they don't have the same image that Nintendo has already built, and what if Capcom and Nintendo do have an agreement on Monster Hunter down the road, 3DS is perfectly capable of a good Monster Hunter game now unlike the DS, what happens to Japan then? Sony has a lot of hurdles to overcome.


I don't understand this only console IP on PSV mentality...it's just rediculous..it's almost as if no one has even seen the line up of games for the device >_>

I'm obviously aware of what they have, but if they want to stand above Nintendo, they have a lot of reimage to do. Looking at how well something like Brain Age sold is borderline ridiculous, it's not graphics intensive, not super whacky, it's just a straight up...... global game, Nintendo is just better at making global mass appeal games than Sony ATM. People want to play something like Uncharted or Call of Duty on a big ass screen with good stereo and huge explosions offering orgasms to your eyes, that's not something a 5 inch screen can offer, so they need more portable games that can drag people in, and that's the real hard part considering only Japan is really buying the PSP right now.


your comment was about psv getting games like patapon and locoroco from the start, and that concern is moot looking at the line up. I suggest going and looking at the line up again. Quite a lot of the games revealed so far are new IP's which have been made specifically to take advantage of the portable. and of those there are already few games that are offer unique offerings that even 3ds has been unabled to do so even after all these months. Will they be successful? who knows but they look to be top quality games.

and you are quite wrong about uncharted and cod, maybe not all people, including you won't like it. But I would love to have such as experience on the go. if you don't like it it just means you are not the target market, simple as that. But again I recommend you checking the official thread or something, it has quite a few unique offerings already.

about the image, it's a matter of marketing really and having a good price point for the masses to enter. atm price point is not there for both systems. marketing, we will just have to see. I say this because psp had a lot of unique offerings on it as well, people either don't know of them or ignore them to benefit the argument.


duh, "with good advertisement and a more global appeal in whacky ass games for it to sell to the masses" is under there somewhere, don't just nit-picking sentences, read the whole paragraph and know what I'm trying to say. Patapon and Locorocco type games are good fun games imo but they are whacky as hell. Nintendo is fucking dumb to try to rely on 3rd party during launch anyways, the problem the VIta will have to face is that the 3DS was in fact out earlier, so there will be more completed games vs PSV at the same time frame and quiet a lot more due to the DS being successful in the previous handheld gen. I think the price of the PSV is good, they need to change a lot of their marketing strats though, they really suck at it.

Once again, I know what games the PSV will have, I do have Sony products ya know? I'm just analyzing on what difficulties it might have to it's competitor who's been quite a lot stronger in the same market. It's not like I'm bashing it lol. I'm just worried, and I think I'm worried with valid reasons.



dahuman said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
dahuman said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
dahuman said:
Gilgamesh said:

Vita hands down.


Gilga, you are really not worried about downgraded high profile game franchiases from the PS3? Sony needs to get a lot more games like Patapon or Locorocco etc. with good advertisement and a more global appeal in whacky ass games for it to sell to the masses, I mean a ton more, and from 3rd parties as well, they don't have the same image that Nintendo has already built, and what if Capcom and Nintendo do have an agreement on Monster Hunter down the road, 3DS is perfectly capable of a good Monster Hunter game now unlike the DS, what happens to Japan then? Sony has a lot of hurdles to overcome.


I don't understand this only console IP on PSV mentality...it's just rediculous..it's almost as if no one has even seen the line up of games for the device >_>

I'm obviously aware of what they have, but if they want to stand above Nintendo, they have a lot of reimage to do. Looking at how well something like Brain Age sold is borderline ridiculous, it's not graphics intensive, not super whacky, it's just a straight up...... global game, Nintendo is just better at making global mass appeal games than Sony ATM. People want to play something like Uncharted or Call of Duty on a big ass screen with good stereo and huge explosions offering orgasms to your eyes, that's not something a 5 inch screen can offer, so they need more portable games that can drag people in, and that's the real hard part considering only Japan is really buying the PSP right now.


your comment was about psv getting games like patapon and locoroco from the start, and that concern is moot looking at the line up. I suggest going and looking at the line up again. Quite a lot of the games revealed so far are new IP's which have been made specifically to take advantage of the portable. and of those there are already few games that are offer unique offerings that even 3ds has been unabled to do so even after all these months. Will they be successful? who knows but they look to be top quality games.

and you are quite wrong about uncharted and cod, maybe not all people, including you won't like it. But I would love to have such as experience on the go. if you don't like it it just means you are not the target market, simple as that. But again I recommend you checking the official thread or something, it has quite a few unique offerings already.

about the image, it's a matter of marketing really and having a good price point for the masses to enter. atm price point is not there for both systems. marketing, we will just have to see. I say this because psp had a lot of unique offerings on it as well, people either don't know of them or ignore them to benefit the argument.


duh, "with good advertisement and a more global appeal in whacky ass games for it to sell to the masses" is under there somewhere, don't just nit-picking sentences, read the whole paragraph and know what I'm trying to say. Patapon and Locorocco type games are good fun games imo but they are whacky as hell. Nintendo is fucking dumb to try to rely on 3rd party during launch anyways, the problem the VIta will have to face is that the 3DS was in fact out earlier, so there will be more completed games vs PSV at the same time frame and quiet a lot more due to the DS being successful in the previous handheld gen. I think the price of the PSV is good, they need to change a lot of their marketing strats though, they really suck at it.

Once again, I know what games the PSV will have, I do have Sony products ya know? I'm just analyzing on what difficulties it might have to it's competitor who's been quite a lot stronger in the same market. It's not like I'm bashing it lol. I'm just worried, and I think I'm worried with valid reasons.


and you are missing what I'm saying as well. I'm telling you that so far that's exactly what sony has done, there are plenty of unique portable games already in the lineup for psv, even more so than 3ds imho. I was saying marketing and price are the only two other factors left. one of which is def not mass market appeal pricing and the other too early to worry about. If we see marcus add-esque stuff again then we have something worry about. Sony have done really well so far with psv, almost flawless that it's scary coming from them. let's see how they handle marketing in the future

ps: to add I think  3ds will def sell more than psv....but it will be much much closer than last gen :)



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I think with the price announcement, Sony has proven they aren't playing around this time. I think they are going to make sure that they will always have some good titles just around the corner, without any droughts. And it looks like they are going to have very good 1st and 3rd party support for the Vita from the start, something Sony had in the PS1 and PS2 days. And an exclusive COD, as well as other FPS franchises, with proper controls may help push some big sales in the US. In Japan, Sony is going to be helped by the momentum from support for their current systems of late.

Also, while a price cut for the 3DS around this holiday season would be a smart move, I think Nintendo is going to try and have at least one holiday at full price. Besides, cutting the price of the 3DS before its even a year old would look like a FUD move. It would give people the impression that Nintendo isn't confident in their HW. If there is a price cut, it would most likely come sometime mid-late 2012, and be ~$50. Which Sony will probably answer with a ~$25 cut of their own just before Holiday 2012, still making it look like the better value, overall. Anyway, this year Vita and 3DS are going toe to toe at the same price. Something that will benefit the Vita, greatly.