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Zlejedi said:
So $199 PS3 for holidays as they will be able to cover eventual loses with software sold?

What loses? In 2010 the PS3 already profits $30 per console... a new revison in this time of the year could make Sony launch the new PS3 at $199 without loses.



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nightsurge said:

I really don't think the PS3 can get much slimmer, if at all.  I think this revision is focusing more on anti-piracy and less on actual cost reductions of the build materials.

The timing for the price cut sounds about right, though. I am predicting a $50 cut on all PS3 models.


Really? External power supply, less/smaller fans, smaller chipsets (If possible) would all help, could trim quite a bit off the console itself.

I think they could trim quite a bit off of it. I mean, there were numerous slimmer version of the PS2, if I remember correctly.



                            

Carl2291 said:
nightsurge said:

I really don't think the PS3 can get much slimmer, if at all.  I think this revision is focusing more on anti-piracy and less on actual cost reductions of the build materials.

The timing for the price cut sounds about right, though. I am predicting a $50 cut on all PS3 model


Really? External power supply, less/smaller fans, smaller chipsets (If possible) would all help, could trim quite a bit off the console itself.

 

Please explain why an external power supply, which adds

-a separate encasing

-a second power cable with plugs

-two power connectors

to the manufacturing costs/inventory chain would _reduce_ the manufacturing costs. This logic is really puzzling.

And don't even go the *reducing chipset" blather. A reduction from 45/40nm to 32nm would result in next to nothing in savings. Given that the 45nm process for the cell is now fully optimized after 2-3 years of use, the yields are probably >90% now and noone in his right mind would switch to a process that gains next to nothing in space (40 to 32 is completely pointless), but reduces yields considerably (as long as the process is not optimised).

Let's not forget that Sony has to repair a few manufacturing plants in Japan.. easily 500mio to fork up so they will hang on to the prices as long as they can.

There certainly is enough room for some PS3 price reduction (currently comparable XBox systems sell for around $100 less in Europe and MS pretends to be profitable on its hardware).



drkohler said:

Please explain why an external power supply, which adds

-a separate encasing

-a second power cable with plugs

-two power connectors

to the manufacturing costs/inventory chain would _reduce_ the manufacturing costs. This logic is really puzzling.

And don't even go the *reducing chipset" blather. A reduction from 45/40nm to 32nm would result in next to nothing in savings. Given that the 45nm process for the cell is now fully optimized after 2-3 years of use, the yields are probably >90% now and noone in his right mind would switch to a process that gains next to nothing in space (40 to 32 is completely pointless), but reduces yields considerably (as long as the process is not optimised).

Let's not forget that Sony has to repair a few manufacturing plants in Japan.. easily 500mio to fork up so they will hang on to the prices as long as they can.

There certainly is enough room for some PS3 price reduction (currently comparable XBox systems sell for around $100 less in Europe and MS pretends to be profitable on its hardware).


I wasn't really focusing on the costs, just the actual "making it slimmer" aspect

No need to be so... Riled up about it.



                            

axumblade said:

You guys are going to give the PS3 Slim an image complex. It will soon start spitting out discs for fear of gaining more weight..:/.


I wish mine would do that... Got the Tomb Raider Collection stuck when it YLOD'd



                            

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Carl2291 said:
axumblade said:

You guys are going to give the PS3 Slim an image complex. It will soon start spitting out discs for fear of gaining more weight..:/.


I wish mine would do that... Got the Tomb Raider Collection stuck when it YLOD'd

I was playing the Tomb Raider Collection today and got YLOD symptoms...but it started working after.

Strange o.0



PS3 will sell like water!!!



Smaller die process = smaller chips = less power = smaller/external PSU = less heat = smaller heatsink/fan = smaller casing = cheaper production cost.

Not too difficult to follow.

There will be another significant hardware revision whether it happens sooner or later. Given the last major revision/price drop was in Q3 2009, it's not out of the question that another is due Q3 2011.



There are usually a lot of rumors before something big like this happens, and Sony isn't actually great at keeping secrets. I fully expect the PS3 to have a price-cut this fall/winter, along with the 360. I don't think the revised model will look different though.



Predicting price cuts and hardware revisions are easy, as that would simply follow what Sony ha been doing since they entered the business.

However:

I do not think a revision will be focused on piracy/BD-drive - Piracy is being more or less effectively dealt with through firmware updates and the storage for pirated games are on HDD, not Blu-ray anyway.

I do not think we'll see an immediate or obvious change in form factor, as recognizability holds some importance in the market.

Conclusion: article is bullshit (not that I've read it, of course).