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I think the second list is even more accurate than the first. It's amazing how the bleedingly obvious is being overlooked so often now.



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zarx said:
blkfish92 said:
Besides starcraft 2 I'm a console man buddy.


Good to know, thanks for telling us. Not sure how that is really relevent to a thread about mistakes devs shouldn't make when making PC games tho.


It's a thread on pc devs and games...so ya I think my post isn't that bad, what ever I suppose you have fun critiqueing others.



           

blkfish92 said:
zarx said:
blkfish92 said:
Besides starcraft 2 I'm a console man buddy.


Good to know, thanks for telling us. Not sure how that is really relevent to a thread about mistakes devs shouldn't make when making PC games tho.


It's a thread on pc devs and games...so ya I think my post isn't that bad, what ever I suppose you have fun critiqueing others.


So you are a console player, and PC developers and games concern you.... how exactly? I'm failing to see the connection there.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

vlad321 said:
blkfish92 said:
zarx said:
blkfish92 said:
Besides starcraft 2 I'm a console man buddy.


Good to know, thanks for telling us. Not sure how that is really relevent to a thread about mistakes devs shouldn't make when making PC games tho.


It's a thread on pc devs and games...so ya I think my post isn't that bad, what ever I suppose you have fun critiqueing others.


So you are a console player, and PC developers and games concern you.... how exactly? I'm failing to see the connection there.


LOl? I said I play sc2 bro, what is there not to understand and overall I'm a gamer so yes all types of gaming concern me, aren't you a gamer also whom is concerned with what's going on in the industry?



           

You forgot one big gripe, Keep the mouse pointer updated at 60fps at all times.
I hate games where you change the options to something unplayable by your pc and then have to struggle to get the mouse pointer back on the options in the menu. How hard is it to overlay a mouse pointer on the rest.
I don't really need a high frame rate in games like civilization, but I DO need a responsive mouse pointer.

I agree with everything. I hated the menus and the lacking key bindings in The Witcher 2 and re-using the same key for different functions. I thought it was a pc game, but it was obviously designed for a controller.
It's saving grace was the extensive graphics options, it let me turn off all the motion blur and bloom crap I dislike from console games. Of course it faltered again by locking the game in 16:9 with black borders until patch 1.3

Anyway consoles have the same problem. I love Catherine, but who on earth thought it was a good idea to use x for letting go and dropping to your doom, while every other game uses x to jump or climb up.
And there are still games coming out that don't let you invert x and y axis independently.



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blkfish92 said:
vlad321 said:
blkfish92 said:
zarx said:
blkfish92 said:
Besides starcraft 2 I'm a console man buddy.


Good to know, thanks for telling us. Not sure how that is really relevent to a thread about mistakes devs shouldn't make when making PC games tho.


It's a thread on pc devs and games...so ya I think my post isn't that bad, what ever I suppose you have fun critiqueing others.


So you are a console player, and PC developers and games concern you.... how exactly? I'm failing to see the connection there.


LOl? I said I play sc2 bro, what is there not to understand and overall I'm a gamer so yes all types of gaming concern me, aren't you a gamer also whom is concerned with what's going on in the industry?

It would be more useful if you actually put in some discussion points other than just, "I play Starcraft 2 and console games". Zarx posted 2 detailed articles about the direction devs are taking with PC games. It might be more helpful if you gave some input into what you thnk of the current direction and the current goings on in the industry with these articles in mind. With you comming from a pre-dominantly console POV it would be fairly interesting too.



Scoobes said:
blkfish92 said:
vlad321 said:
blkfish92 said:
zarx said:
blkfish92 said:
Besides starcraft 2 I'm a console man buddy.


Good to know, thanks for telling us. Not sure how that is really relevent to a thread about mistakes devs shouldn't make when making PC games tho.


It's a thread on pc devs and games...so ya I think my post isn't that bad, what ever I suppose you have fun critiqueing others.


So you are a console player, and PC developers and games concern you.... how exactly? I'm failing to see the connection there.


LOl? I said I play sc2 bro, what is there not to understand and overall I'm a gamer so yes all types of gaming concern me, aren't you a gamer also whom is concerned with what's going on in the industry?

It would be more useful if you actually put in some discussion points other than just, "I play Starcraft 2 and console games". Zarx posted 2 detailed articles about the direction devs are taking with PC games. It might be more helpful if you gave some input into what you thnk of the current direction and the current goings on in the industry with these articles in mind. With you comming from a pre-dominantly console POV it would be fairly interesting too.


Alrighty then fair enough I see the thread's some what of a rant on what devs do to pc games, ranging form controller use to mouse speed, to me that sounds like such a hassle to deal with, so my question is what's preventing most pc gamers from playing on consoles instead?

Is it the community? I do understand because the console community can be pretty damn STUPID at times. For example, at times I would play KZ3 on my fancy ps triple I meet people on bluetooth talking in game that are just plain awful people. Like, these people just mess with the team and what not, an example being when there's some dumb guy on the opposing team whom team that goes 1 kill 12 deaths and his team wins and he starts bad mouthing my team, of which I may be 20 kills 11 deaths, and man it just gets me to wondering like what the hell you did worse than the worse guy on my losing team you freak!

Well the community can be a huge reason as to stick to pc gaming even with all the hassle, at least that's my guess, but what's really the issue at hand? Why not play console games to avoid the hassle?



           

blkfish92 said:
Scoobes said:

It would be more useful if you actually put in some discussion points other than just, "I play Starcraft 2 and console games". Zarx posted 2 detailed articles about the direction devs are taking with PC games. It might be more helpful if you gave some input into what you thnk of the current direction and the current goings on in the industry with these articles in mind. With you comming from a pre-dominantly console POV it would be fairly interesting too.


Alrighty then fair enough I see the thread's some what of a rant on what devs do to pc games, ranging form controller use to mouse speed, to me that sounds like such a hassle to deal with, so my question is what's preventing most pc gamers from playing on consoles instead?

Is it the community? I do understand because the console community can be pretty damn STUPID at times. For example, at times I would play KZ3 on my fancy ps triple I meet people on bluetooth talking in game that are just plain awful people. Like, these people just mess with the team and what not, an example being when there's some dumb guy on the opposing team whom team that goes 1 kill 12 deaths and his team wins and he starts bad mouthing my team, of which I may be 20 kills 11 deaths, and man it just gets me to wondering like what the hell you did worse than the worse guy on my losing team you freak!

Well the community can be a huge reason as to stick to pc gaming even with all the hassle, at least that's my guess, but what's really the issue at hand? Why not play console games to avoid the hassle?


Because consoles are too restricting  in controls and multiplayer and some of those restrictions cause some serious dumbing down for certian genres (particularly FPS,RPG,and RTS). Then there is LIVE and PSN (though live is slightly worse since it actually asks you to pay, lawl).  They are centralized and highly controlled environments. Off the top of my head I can tell you that team fortress, counter-strike, aliean swarm, and dozens of other mods out there we got for games for FREE. People literally spent thousands of hours on a mod for half-life and its first iteration was free. How many such things came from console games? Not to mention free maps (not all good but some are superb), models, skins, etc. The latency is too high on those services as well due to lack of dedicated servers most of the time, and if  a given service goes down ALL my games are screwed. Multiplayer on consoles, the techinical side, is just... bad and in a sorry condition.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

blkfish92 said:
zarx said:
blkfish92 said:
Besides starcraft 2 I'm a console man buddy.


Good to know, thanks for telling us. Not sure how that is really relevent to a thread about mistakes devs shouldn't make when making PC games tho.


It's a thread on pc devs and games...so ya I think my post isn't that bad, what ever I suppose you have fun critiqueing others.


No it just seemed like a weried post given the thread, maybe I read to much into it but it seemed like you were saying that you didn't care because you only played one PC game so the rest didn't concern you. Which made me wonder why you would come into a thread about PC games when you don't really care about them. And kinda also dissmissing the problems because they don't affect you. 

I guess I am just a bit neurotic, I blame the lack of sleep.



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zarx said:
blkfish92 said:
zarx said:
blkfish92 said:
Besides starcraft 2 I'm a console man buddy.


Good to know, thanks for telling us. Not sure how that is really relevent to a thread about mistakes devs shouldn't make when making PC games tho.


It's a thread on pc devs and games...so ya I think my post isn't that bad, what ever I suppose you have fun critiqueing others.


No it just seemed like a weried post given the thread, maybe I read to much into it but it seemed like you were saying that you didn't care because you only played one PC game so the rest didn't concern you. Which made me wonder why you would come into a thread about PC games when you don't really care about them. And kinda also dissmissing the problems because they don't affect you. 

I guess I am just a bit neurotic, I blame the lack of sleep.


It's fine lol, get some sleep