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superchunk on 13 June 2011
irstupid said:
i love how so many ALWAYS say they will wait for nintendo to say.

nintendo has NEVER told us. why do you expect them to now? we ALWAYS have to rely on a few rumors or developer here says, or else once the console is FINALLY out, we have someon rip it open and give us their best figure on what they see inside.


Actually, prior to DS and Wii (which were both notably weaker than their competition) they used to always give full tech specs. If they are back in the power game, they may just spill the beans. Otherwise we'll have to wait for people to crack it open and 3rd parties to spill secrets.



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Naum on 13 June 2011
Rainbow Yoshi said:
Going where Nintendo are going, this could be Nintendo's last console generation (8th).


You mean earning billions of dollars every single year?



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sc94597 on 13 June 2011
radiantshadow92 said:
If the console was actually more powerful than the current HD consoles, then Nintendo would not wait this long to admit it. They would instantly jump on the Yeah were the true next gen console ship. Since they haven't, its easy to assume that its just around the same stuff as the current HD consoles

There are many reasons why they haven't mentioned it. The three biggest reasons I can think of right now are that Nintendo is focused on  presenting the controller right now, which  is quite obviously what they did; they still haven't sorted out the technical details and don't want to mention anything about the system until they're finish; or they don't want to reveal the capabilities of the system to their competitors during the competitors peak development period. All three of these or a combination could be the explanation.



HappySqurriel on 13 June 2011
drkohler said:
superchunk said:

Really, because the PS360 can produce the same levels as that Zelda demo at 1080p... right.

It will end up being 5 to 10x more powerful than ps360 and when they upgrade they will be a few times more powerful than it

Please add an irony smilie to your comments, because otherwise you come over as a total idiot stating such nonsense (aaprently you have no clue about the technologies involved). The wii uses the same technology as the X360 (which is even a little more progressed since unifing CPU/GPU on a single die). there will probably be a 30% performance boost max. compared to X360, mainly due to more memory available.


Saying "The Wii U is using the same technology as the XBox 360" is kind of like saying "The XBox 360 is using the same technology as the Gamecube" ...

Just because the component manufacturers involved are the same does not mean that the technology involved is the same.



HappySqurriel on 13 June 2011
radiantshadow92 said:
If the console was actually more powerful than the current HD consoles, then Nintendo would not wait this long to admit it. They would instantly jump on the Yeah were the true next gen console ship. Since they haven't, its easy to assume that its just around the same stuff as the current HD consoles


I don't agree with this thinking ...

There is a certain level of processing power (relative to the time the system was released) that represents what I would call "traditional console hardware". In the past generation, Nintendo released a system which was less powerful than this (for a variety of reasons) and Sony and Microsoft released hardware which was more powerful than this (for a variety of reasons). From the little we know about the Wii U I believe that Nintendo is returning to producing a system that is in line with most systems that have been released.

Now, why wouldn't Nintendo brag about this? The answer is simple, they can't be certain what strategy Sony/Microsoft are going to follow in the next generation. If Nintendo makes "increased processing power" a major feature of the Wii U and Sony/Microsoft release a system a year later that is $100 more expensive while they lose $100+ per console this feature can easily be eclipsed. While a heavily modified R700 that is based off of the chipset in the Radeon HD4850 can easily surpass everything on the HD consoles, and could even support multiplatform development with a console based on a Radeon HD 7850, it is unlikely going to look that impressive in terms of pure processing power against that Radeon HD 7850.

In contrast if they make their selling feature an innovative controller then Sony/Microsoft can't take away their selling feature simply through a willingness to lose more money.



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BoneArk on 13 June 2011

I'll judge it when I see the WiiU in action.



                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   

lightbleeder on 13 June 2011

If it is 3x more powerful than a PS3 then it should be able to display PS3 graphics on 3 screens at once, being those 3 screens one TV and two tablet controllers



Jaos on 13 June 2011
HappySqurriel said:
radiantshadow92 said:
If the console was actually more powerful than the current HD consoles, then Nintendo would not wait this long to admit it. They would instantly jump on the Yeah were the true next gen console ship. Since they haven't, its easy to assume that its just around the same stuff as the current HD consoles


I don't agree with this thinking ...

There is a certain level of processing power (relative to the time the system was released) that represents what I would call "traditional console hardware". In the past generation, Nintendo released a system which was less powerful than this (for a variety of reasons) and Sony and Microsoft released hardware which was more powerful than this (for a variety of reasons). From the little we know about the Wii U I believe that Nintendo is returning to producing a system that is in line with most systems that have been released.

Now, why wouldn't Nintendo brag about this? The answer is simple, they can't be certain what strategy Sony/Microsoft are going to follow in the next generation. If Nintendo makes "increased processing power" a major feature of the Wii U and Sony/Microsoft release a system a year later that is $100 more expensive while they lose $100+ per console this feature can easily be eclipsed. While a heavily modified R700 that is based off of the chipset in the Radeon HD4850 can easily surpass everything on the HD consoles, and could even support multiplatform development with a console based on a Radeon HD 7850, it is unlikely going to look that impressive in terms of pure processing power against that Radeon HD 7850.

In contrast if they make their selling feature an innovative controller then Sony/Microsoft can't take away their selling feature simply through a willingness to lose more money.


Also, did Nintendo brag about GC being more powerful than PS2? I don't remember that. Or did they brag about N64 producing much better (in game) graphics than PS1?



HappySqurriel on 13 June 2011
Jaos said:
HappySqurriel said:
radiantshadow92 said:
If the console was actually more powerful than the current HD consoles, then Nintendo would not wait this long to admit it. They would instantly jump on the Yeah were the true next gen console ship. Since they haven't, its easy to assume that its just around the same stuff as the current HD consoles


I don't agree with this thinking ...

There is a certain level of processing power (relative to the time the system was released) that represents what I would call "traditional console hardware". In the past generation, Nintendo released a system which was less powerful than this (for a variety of reasons) and Sony and Microsoft released hardware which was more powerful than this (for a variety of reasons). From the little we know about the Wii U I believe that Nintendo is returning to producing a system that is in line with most systems that have been released.

Now, why wouldn't Nintendo brag about this? The answer is simple, they can't be certain what strategy Sony/Microsoft are going to follow in the next generation. If Nintendo makes "increased processing power" a major feature of the Wii U and Sony/Microsoft release a system a year later that is $100 more expensive while they lose $100+ per console this feature can easily be eclipsed. While a heavily modified R700 that is based off of the chipset in the Radeon HD4850 can easily surpass everything on the HD consoles, and could even support multiplatform development with a console based on a Radeon HD 7850, it is unlikely going to look that impressive in terms of pure processing power against that Radeon HD 7850.

In contrast if they make their selling feature an innovative controller then Sony/Microsoft can't take away their selling feature simply through a willingness to lose more money.


Also, did Nintendo brag about GC being more powerful than PS2? I don't remember that. Or did they brag about N64 producing much better (in game) graphics than PS1?


I don't remember Nintendo doing it directly with the Gamecube, but I do remember when IBM and ATi were talking about the technology in the Gamecube they made a couple of comments that could be called "bragging" about how much more powerful the Gamecube was than the PS2.



Marks on 13 June 2011
superchunk said:
nightsurge said:
Marks said:
If that's true then that's kind of disappointing.

For comparison's sake does anyone know how much more powerful the Wii is compared to Xbox or PS2?

I'm not even sure the Wii is more powerful than the Xbox or PS2...

Xbox 1 had some really good looking games.

Wii is easily more powerful than last gen. Not as much as it should have been, but it is 2-3x more powerful than xbox or GC and they where both a bit more powerful than PS2.

Sounds about right, thanks.