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D-Joe on 11 June 2011

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seems like zero PS3 games we need to care



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Rath on 11 June 2011
MaulerX said:
http://uk.kotaku.com/5810138/mass-effect-3s-new-voice-commands-are-xbox-360+only-and-heres-why

"Mass Effect executive producer Casey Hudson says BioWare is bringing voice commands to Kinect and Xbox 360 because Microsoft's sound and motion-sensing controller is doing the hard work of voice recognition. Kinect's internal hardware is what makes it possible—or at least much easier to get voice commands working—not just its microphones."



People need to start giving Kinect some credit. It has one of the most advanced voice recognition systems available. It is alot easier for developers to leverage the Kinect's hardware and software as opposed to going thru the trouble of writing their own voice recognition code.

I'm trying to figure out how you can implement voice recognition in hardware - surely it's largely a software task?

 

Also while the Kinect is a cool piece of hardware, doesn't mean it needs to be implemented everywhere. I'd prefer to see it used where it would actually improve the experience rather than just adding it in for the hell of it (I'm talking to you ME3).



Carl on 11 June 2011

Thank God he said optional...

Don't want to get Kinect at all. No reason to...



                            

yo_john117 on 11 June 2011
dahuman said:
What first party? o_O;;;; Who the fuck cares about MS 1st party games besides Halo 4? Seriously, anybody gives a shit about "Adventure" games? Halo is all that matters for MS 1st party, and I doubt they'd fuck up that game with Kinect.

Its not going to be mandotory...it would probably be extra features like the voice control or something like that.



dahuman on 11 June 2011
yo_john117 said:
dahuman said:
What first party? o_O;;;; Who the fuck cares about MS 1st party games besides Halo 4? Seriously, anybody gives a shit about "Adventure" games? Halo is all that matters for MS 1st party, and I doubt they'd fuck up that game with Kinect.

Its not going to be mandotory...it would probably be extra features like the voice control or something like that.


That's a lame feature for anything other than a more complex RTS anyways(voice commands,) and you have to hide and play by yourself so people don't fuck you over on purpose, since I'd totally fuck up other people intentionally when they have it on just to piss them off.



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yo_john117 on 11 June 2011
dahuman said:
yo_john117 said:
dahuman said:
What first party? o_O;;;; Who the fuck cares about MS 1st party games besides Halo 4? Seriously, anybody gives a shit about "Adventure" games? Halo is all that matters for MS 1st party, and I doubt they'd fuck up that game with Kinect.

Its not going to be mandotory...it would probably be extra features like the voice control or something like that.


That's a lame feature for anything other than a more complex RTS anyways(voice commands,) and you have to hide and play by yourself so people don't fuck you over on purpose, since I'd totally fuck up other people intentionally when they have it on just to piss them off.

It doesn't have to be voice controll, I was just giving an example. The point is its not mandatory and most of the time it will probably be just some extra features.



Euphoria14 on 11 June 2011
D-Joe said:
wow@MS hater
seems like zero PS3 games we need to care


What does this have to do with PS3 games?

 

Look at the post above you if you are trying to accuse PS3 owners of being the ones who do not like the idea.



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dahuman on 11 June 2011
yo_john117 said:
dahuman said:
yo_john117 said:
dahuman said:
What first party? o_O;;;; Who the fuck cares about MS 1st party games besides Halo 4? Seriously, anybody gives a shit about "Adventure" games? Halo is all that matters for MS 1st party, and I doubt they'd fuck up that game with Kinect.

Its not going to be mandotory...it would probably be extra features like the voice control or something like that.


That's a lame feature for anything other than a more complex RTS anyways(voice commands,) and you have to hide and play by yourself so people don't fuck you over on purpose, since I'd totally fuck up other people intentionally when they have it on just to piss them off.

It doesn't have to be voice controll, I was just giving an example. The point is its not mandatory and most of the time it will probably be just some extra features.

I still think the concept was rushed out too early with Kinect when they should have done more R&D on it personally. It's a good concept that's not powerful enough so a lot of things feel tacked on when it comes to dealing with vet gamers.



daroamer on 11 June 2011
Rath said:
MaulerX said:
http://uk.kotaku.com/5810138/mass-effect-3s-new-voice-commands-are-xbox-360+only-and-heres-why

"Mass Effect executive producer Casey Hudson says BioWare is bringing voice commands to Kinect and Xbox 360 because Microsoft's sound and motion-sensing controller is doing the hard work of voice recognition. Kinect's internal hardware is what makes it possible—or at least much easier to get voice commands working—not just its microphones."



People need to start giving Kinect some credit. It has one of the most advanced voice recognition systems available. It is alot easier for developers to leverage the Kinect's hardware and software as opposed to going thru the trouble of writing their own voice recognition code.

I'm trying to figure out how you can implement voice recognition in hardware - surely it's largely a software task?

 

Also while the Kinect is a cool piece of hardware, doesn't mean it needs to be implemented everywhere. I'd prefer to see it used where it would actually improve the experience rather than just adding it in for the hell of it (I'm talking to you ME3).

It is software but the software exists and is being run inside Kinect.  So instead of a game maker needing to license or develop their own voice recognition software and then integrate it into their code they can basically access the existing software inside Kinect which is parsing the voice data for them.  It makes it much easier to implement voice recognition into their game which means more games will be likely to do so.



daroamer on 11 June 2011
dahuman said:
yo_john117 said:
dahuman said:
yo_john117 said:
dahuman said:
What first party? o_O;;;; Who the fuck cares about MS 1st party games besides Halo 4? Seriously, anybody gives a shit about "Adventure" games? Halo is all that matters for MS 1st party, and I doubt they'd fuck up that game with Kinect.

Its not going to be mandotory...it would probably be extra features like the voice control or something like that.


That's a lame feature for anything other than a more complex RTS anyways(voice commands,) and you have to hide and play by yourself so people don't fuck you over on purpose, since I'd totally fuck up other people intentionally when they have it on just to piss them off.

It doesn't have to be voice controll, I was just giving an example. The point is its not mandatory and most of the time it will probably be just some extra features.

I still think the concept was rushed out too early with Kinect when they should have done more R&D on it personally. It's a good concept that's not powerful enough so a lot of things feel tacked on when it comes to dealing with vet gamers.

The Kinect hardware itself is pretty advanced and actually contains better components than are currently being used.  The bottleneck here is really the 360.  If you've seen Kinect working on PCs you'll see it's much more accurate and there is less lag.   They've already improved the tracking considerably through software upgrades even with the 360.

There is no reason existing Kinect sensors couldn't be used on the next gen Xbox and give you much better results than you are seeing now.