He isn't saying that he would condone such a study, but merely that, from the perspective of the people who ran the study, his changes might have made an improvement. It seems like because the subject is close to you, you assume he has an anti-gay stance and would support this kind of study.

whats wrong with the bold, i didn't mean it in the way you imagine it to be, cause i can't get the video of fireworks where the guy kisses the other guy without even asking him which is what i meant i would be physical if that happened however if he asks me out i would say no. why should the mods ban me for please enlighten me?

How does me not knowing about some sexaul identity experiments make me know very little about science. I don't know if you have ever had your father hit you alot when you were young however i have and i think i know about it more than you ever will from some studies since i was a subject and i never said the physical pain does anything. My dad once hit me for opening alot of seven up bottles cause there was the you might win a car thing, the problem is though that i have mixed feelings when i remember it. he also hit me really hard when i mistakedly dropped about 50 eggs which broke em and i remember that as being the most painful experience i have ever had, he threw me against the cement wall so hard, it makes me feel angry just trying to remember it. I have tryed my best to forgive him and i forgave him for alot of things he has done so physical abuse can be treated if you are ready to forgive.

I don't believe in physical pain and i believe if you want to change you have to be ready to do alot of effeort into it, i don't believe anything is fixed it is however up to your determination and effort. As i have forgiven my father by my effort, i don't regret anything i have did in my life as i have learned from it alot, except for one or two things.

the middle part about him having gay relationship i never knew as i have just seen the video and read the paragraphs the op posted so i cannot coment, i still don't understand why he commited suicide cause he was having a good gay relationship with that indain guy so what made him comit it?

I just outlined what i would have improved in the experiment and never said the experiment was right to begin with. you got a pretty bad picture about me from you interpretting what i am saying in another way than i intended it to be interpretted in. hope you the best

exactly i was talking from a pure improve experiment prespective i didn't mention that i am with it.

+1 atlast someone who understands me :)

Sickening. Truly sickening. What's even more sickening is the fact that there are still slimeballs who supports this shit.

Terribly sad. Hardly even had much of a chance at happiness.

Just an obvious point ... Failing to do something with one approach does not imply that it can not be done. I'm not saying that you can (or should) "cure" someone's homosexuality, but this approach would probably screw someone up regardless of what you were trying to "cure".

While not exactly the same thing, if you took this approach with someone who stuttered you would probably end up with someone who had a lot of guilt and self hatred; and if they continued to stutter into their adult years it could lead them to commit suicide.

(1) - Unless he tries to rape you or assault you, you should not become physically violent.

(2) - Damn, I actually wanna hug you now. My father wasn't around when I was growing up, and my mom didn't hit me because I was the perfect child (her words, not mine, I'm not bragging). You were just a kid though, what he did was grousome. He should've been sent to jail for abuse. I have a very defiant nature, and had I been in your situation I would've eventually fought back. Definately would've never forgiven him, I don't know why you did that.

(3) - There are some things you can't change (like sexual orientation), and you shouldn't even try to change these things because they're what make you be you, and not someone else. Honestly, society's attempts to standardize people sicken me.

(4) - He had gay relationships, but the results of this experiment was that he hated himself for the rest of his life. He lived his whole life thinking that he was "wrong" and "defective" (a natural result of the torture he had to endure, because he was probably thinking "people are willing to humiliate and hurt me just because of the way I am"). It was not his first suicide attempt, and as his sister said, it's a wonder he made it to 38.

(5) - The experiment had false premises (that being gay is caused by environmental factors), so the only way to "improve" it is to scrap it alltogether.

What this experiment proves is that homosexuality is not caused by envirnomental factors, but rather it's an inborn trait (there have been several similar experiments, all of which have failed, and the the poor victims shared the same fait - suicide).

He still ended up gay, so how could the experiment be viewed as a success? Now, if the purpose was to traumatize, make the patient hate himself and become suicidal, then in that case the experiment was a total "success"!

actually there is not much to assume. he had already proven it with numerous bannable offences in the past.