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Zlejedi on 09 June 2011
Khuutra said:
Zlejedi said:
It's been their modus operandi for three consoles already to sell past gen hardware with gimmick at current gen prices.


Now the Wii definitely uses matured hardware - but the Gamecube and N64? Come on.

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Metallicube on 09 June 2011
Zlejedi said:
It's been their modus operandi for three consoles already to sell past gen hardware with gimmick at current gen prices.


I am REALLY sick of this notion that the Wii was an overpriced, undervalued console. The damn thing sold 86 million and is on pace for well over 100 million. Obivously SOME people find value in it..

And don't even get me started on "gimmicks." Look at what Sony and MS are doing now. Nintendo may be pushing gimmicks, but Sony and MS are doing this just as much, if not moreso.



MrT-Tar on 09 June 2011
sc94597 said:

Some things I want everybody to consider. 

Stop assuming that the Wii U is only on par with the PS360. 

From what we've  been led to the WIi U will use a Power 7 derived cpu and a comparable gpu to not cause a bottleneck. The Power 7 is IBM's top line architecture at the moment, and is significantly better than comparable intel core i7s. That means the cpu is derived off of both modern technology, and depending on how many cores and how much clock speed is cut down the cpu should be anywhere from a few to many times that of the Xbox 360s Xenon for example. This is certainly not considered "on par."

Since the GPU must not bottleneck the CPU expect something comparable to the Radeon R700 series. Also significantly more powerful than anything you can find in the HD twins.

So it's not going to be 'on par' unless you're expecting very unrealistic and expensive advancements for the other next generation consoles if they're released within a year of the WIi U. 

I think it's fair to say that there is a difference between the PS360 and Wii U, and it will be a significant one at that. 

Now that isn't to say that the other consoles won't be more powerful than the Wii U. Chances are very high that will be the case. However; will it  be comparable to that of this generation? Probably not. 

I think the difference will be akin to that between the Dreamcast to Xbox at most, and the PS2 to Xbox at least.

 

fantastic post, I'm supporting this all the way




puffy on 09 June 2011

They won't be behind when Wii U launches ;)



 

Linkasf on 09 June 2011
Zlejedi said:
Khuutra said:
Zlejedi said:
It's been their modus operandi for three consoles already to sell past gen hardware with gimmick at current gen prices.


Now the Wii definitely uses matured hardware - but the Gamecube and N64? Come on.

3DS

Wii

DS

I don't see anything wrong with the 3DS hardware. I can imagine if the Vita was released at the same time the 3DS was, and 3DS was pushed for next year, the 3DS would easily be more powerful because of the difference in release timings.



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amp316 on 09 June 2011

Yes, they will always be behind Sony in graphics just like they were with the N64 and the Gamecube.



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Siko1989 on 09 June 2011

how the hell should i know, no WiiU games was shown at at E3 to do a comparison




Seece on 09 June 2011

No, arnt you listening to Nintendo fans here? apparantly MS and Sony arnt going to bother and the graphical leap from the 05 360 and 06 PS3 are going to be minimal, with no reason given.



 

Dr.Grass on 09 June 2011
Khuutra said:
Zlejedi said:
It's been their modus operandi for three consoles already to sell past gen hardware with gimmick at current gen prices.


Now the Wii definitely uses matured hardware - but the Gamecube and N64? Come on.

Agreed. Many Gamecube games challenged the best looking Xbox games. I still go back to Starfox Adventures, Metroid Prime and even the early Rogue Squadron II just to admire how powerful that little purple box was.

Nintendo completely satisfied me with the power of the Gamecube. What's more, they were able to make a much smaller, much cheaper console than MS that seemed to hold its own against the gargantuan Xbox.

Seriously, go look at Starfox Adventures people - Gamecube was pushing boundaries back then.

Where I lived no-one even knew what a Gamecube was, so I showed it off quite a bit. I really liked the handle - could just pick it up and carry it to my friends' house for some awesome Smash Bros times. I lent my GC to my PC-gamer buddy who was unconvinced about consoles. I gave him the firm instruction: ''Go play Metroid Prime. Get used to the controls and see it as an adventure game. Explore and read all the lore. Go get lost.'' Less than a week later he finished Prime and said it was the most beautiful game he ever played.

Anyways, I got a little carried away, but Nintendo CAN be on the cutting edge if they want to. It just depends on whether they see it as a substantial factor for the masses or not.



Seece on 09 June 2011
scottie said:

Lol @ "possibly on par with PS360" You are basing that off - I can only assume - the tech demoes shown at E3 with a year before the release of the console, comparing them to the best graphics produced on the PS3 to date.

 

Perfect Dark 0, a fairly well respected launch title for the 360.

 

And a tech demo. Inevitably, the final game will be much more polished

 

Is this really going to happen? It's like the xbox is more powerful than Wii bullshit again, except even more preposterous this time

PS3 had tech demos in 2005 that still look better than anything on the console, or so I heard from another topic, so don't latch onto that Zelda video too tight for proof.