yawn that tech demo was only mildly impressive.
Even if there exist better ones, they should only be measured with other tech demos and not with retail games.

That Zelda HD did look nice, but again I want to see real gameplay and not a scene of a trailer. And even if this trailer and the final product are exactly the identical, I don't think it's looking better than God of War 3 and Uncharted 2.

Yeah the WiiU will be a pass for me and probably many other gamers who will be waiting for MS and Sony to release a more powerful console next year.

The side of me fearing the worst thinks like you do... I really hope we are surprised.

My verdict is, that the zelda demo is not better then anything on 360/PS3. but that really doesn't mean anything does it? All we can do is wait and see. Tech demos and target renders have fooled me one too many time to go by them.

Do you remember that Killzone 2 one from about 6/7 years ago!?

I was thinking ''OMGZ Xbox360 is dOOmed''

LOL

You're right. But it is fun to speculate.

I gotta be honest if graphics are your deciding factor in buying a console thats rediculous..........

I'm very unimpress by the Wii U and sure graphics so far is a part of that but it has more to do with several other things.

Keep in mind that not only do we have no precise specs, but it takes a while for developers to master a system's architecture.

For example, the PS3 has come a LONG way graphcially from games like Resistance: Fall of Man to games like Uncharted 2. Likewise, it will probably take a few years after the release of Wii U for it's horsepower to reach a full gallop.

Also, Reggie kept stressing the 1080p resolution; if he's talking about native resolution, that's something virtually no PS3/360 games can boast.

After giving a lot of thought to it, be fine with native 1080p and solid fps even if it doesn't look better than an Uncharted 2 or so. I can keep the "avant-garde" in my PC or in the PS4 three years or so from now, if it does release more like a media center console.

This could go either way: Either the Wii U is essentially current-gen technology (and as such, will be left behind when the next Xbox and Playstation launch), or it's unusually powerful and will have some lasting power.

Now, when the Wii launched as a "weaker" system, what was a secondary effect of it being essentially a last-gen system? Prolonged life of the PS2 and added boost to PSP multi-platform games. Multiplatform games for the Wii were relatively easy to port to or from the PS2 and PSP, which kept the PS2 alive longer and likely made it easier for developers to simply add the PSP to a list of systems with which to share ports.

It's entirely possible that the Wii U simply prolongs the life of the current generation by a year or two, which I would support completely. I want this generation to be COMPLETELY exhausted by the time the next generation rolls out, that way we developers can be more prepared to move on, gamers can maximize the value of their current systems, and the tech leap to the next generation can be as incredible, impressive, and necessary as possible.

Of course, it's limited power could leave it in the dust within two years when the next Xbox and Playstation likely launch. I don't expect the new systems until 2013 at the soonest. Probably late in the year. Microsoft's sales are actually up over this last year, so they have no reason at all to jump to the next generation right now. The PS3 for that matter, is holding pretty steady and doesn't need a replacement any time soon.


Part of why I think the Wii U is potentially only on-par with the X360/PS3, besides persistent rumors, are the facts that as usual, Nintendo didn't release hardware specs (just general console information, like it's size) which means they don't want people focusing on the "weaker" internal hardware. Also, the system isn't much bigger than a Wii, which means that it's likely housing compressed or "optimized" current-gen hardware, not unlike when the PS2 Slim launched housing the same PS2 hardware in a substantially smaller package. If the Wii U featured a drastic leap forward in hardware power, it'd likely be a helluva lot bigger. Like the size of the Xbox 360 S at least.

Well i'm pleased that the tech demo already looks better than Uncharted 3. Can't wait to see what the final products will look like!