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Has Microsoft already lost E3?

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No 76 17.92%
 
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Far too much kinect. Will 360 gamers accept that?



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voty2000 said:

In short no, Microsoft has not lost. They are appealing to a different market which is much larger than the "hardcore" market. I watched the conference with my 11 year old nephew and now he wants me to get Kinect so we can play. He loved it.

Sounds familiar.....

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I thought it was really poor tbh. I know they are aiming at a new demographic with Kinect but Disneyland/Ryse/Star Wars/Sesame Street all involve the same kinect actions again and again. The action in Star Wars looked so boring - slash slash jump slash slash jump. Ryse - slash slash kick slash slash kick. Disneyland - flying through the air dodging stuff, Star Wars - flying through the air dodging stuff. I reckon these games will sell well but get really poor reviews. Also some of the voice recognition stuff seems a bit tacked on and slightly needless.
Also all the demonstrations were pre-recorded and at times were poorly out of sync. Little things in the Funlabs demonstration such as the type of clothes she was wearing/the bag she scanned in were all pre-decided to make it look impressive. I bet it doesnt work half as well in reality.



Honestly, it was a bad conference. Really bad. It lacked any decent announcement. It lacked any oomph. It was, in truth, a Kinect launch platform, but the Kinect games were all very similar: on rails flailing and waving hands at on-screen targets. Utterly uncool. Fine for young children, but that's it. An utter failure, and I'm sorely disappointed. I wanted something awesome for my Kinect. I haven't been given that.



disolitude said:

Was it really that bad?

I mean, Bing voice search across all streams of media on Xbox Live will sell more 360 units than any bombshell "exclusive". With this lineup and features, Kinect will annihilate this holiday season.

Not sure Sony or Nintendo can do much to change that, even if they announce 100 exclusives.

Bing voice search will sell bunk. If anything out of that will really move 360's to new audiences, it'll be Disneyland Adventures and possibly the Tim Schaffer Sesame Street one, but i don't see those features doing much of anything, except broadening the potential use of existing 360s (which will lead to expanded revenue in its own right, to be sure).

Mostly Microsoft needs to refine their presentation for Kinect. They're getting close, but bad actors onstage has always been a negative.

It's not a total failure, but its not what Microsoft needed to make up for their lack of new hardware in this run



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eddlemaistre said:
I thought it was really poor tbh. I know they are aiming at a new demographic with Kinect but Disneyland/Ryse/Star Wars/Sesame Street all involve the same kinect actions again and again. The action in Star Wars looked so boring - slash slash jump slash slash jump. Ryse - slash slash kick slash slash kick. Disneyland - flying through the air dodging stuff, Star Wars - flying through the air dodging stuff. I reckon these games will sell well but get really poor reviews. Also some of the voice recognition stuff seems a bit tacked on and slightly needless.
Also all the demonstrations were pre-recorded and at times were poorly out of sync. Little things in the Funlabs demonstration such as the type of clothes she was wearing/the bag she scanned in were all pre-decided to make it look impressive. I bet it doesnt work half as well in reality.

Bullshit.
Why should they record a demonstration with bloopers. Happened once in Star Wars Kinect, twice in Sesame Street (the little boy starting the scene by opening the pages) and in Fable The Journey when the demonstrator made a bigass spell that didn't hit the target at all.



e3 is for the hardcore not for the kids. thats why focusing on kinect will ofcourse make them loose e3, if they dont put many surprises.

halo one remake was good even thought it was expected, then their was halo 4. thats not enough to win e3.



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There's still a chance that Sony will mess up...

...PSVita price announcment.... >_>



 

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I honestly didn't think it was that terrible. It started very well, with MW3 and Tomb Raider, and ME3 and Gears. It ended very well, with Halo 4. The only trouble was that the rest was garbage. It exceeded my (admittedly very low) expectations, and it was certainly better than last year's conference.

I give it a 5/10. I fully expect both Sony and Nintendo to have much better showings, but we can't know until we've seen them.



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I watched it on Gametrailers. The comments were basically:

-*shows MW3-GeoW3* Shooters? We're tired of shooters! Show something different.
-*shows Forza* A racing game? Snore....Gran Turismo will PWN this game!!
-*shows Kinect* Nothing but Kinect? Show something else!!
-*shows youtube, TV, Kinect Fun Labs, etc* PS3 already has youtube, it can access Bing, etc.
-*shows Halo 4* Boo!! We already knew Halo 4 was coming


So basically, people don't want shooters, racing, features, family games, applications, or classic franchises. Now I can't wait to see how people react to Sony's conference. Probably:

-*Modern Warfare, Resistance 3, etc...*Hooray!!! We love shooters!
-*Not likely but, Gran Turismo* Hooray!! A new racing game!!
-*Move support or new Move titles* YES!! We LOVE Playstation Move
-*Cross Game Chat* That's so original and new!!
-*Uncharted 3 footage* I just jizzed all over myself!!

I wish there were more surprises to Microsoft's E3 and the Halo 4 announcement wasn't the announcement I wanted them to have as the E3 Megaton (since Halo 3, Halo Wars, Halo ODST, Halo Reach, Halo Anniversary, and Halo Dance Central already came out this gen...) but I wonder what people want. What M$ announcement could have made people happy (Alan Wake? A new JRPG?) It was a no win situation.