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Has Microsoft already lost E3?

Yes 348 82.08%
 
No 76 17.92%
 
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S.T.A.G.E. said:
voty2000 said:
Microsoft is trying to expand it's market and this conference has shown that. To the "Hardcore" gamers this seems lacking but that isn't what Microsoft is going after now. They have Gears 3, Halo Remake and 3rd party games to support the "hardcore" gamer. They have just about all the "hardcore" gamers they are going to get so now the focus is on the casual market so they can expand the market. Just wait till this holiday season when Kinect starts selling like mad again.

Forum dwellers act like exclusives are really important but that isn't entirely true. Sony is releasing many more exclusives than Microsoft and is outselling it by only a small amount. The exclusive they are releasing are no longer console sellers like they were when the generation started so focusing on the casuals is the next logical step.

In short no, Microsoft has not lost. They are appealing to a different market which is much larger than the "hardcore" market. I watched the conference with my 11 year old nephew and now he wants me to get Kinect so we can play. He loved it.

Most of Microsofts kinect titles will go unnoticed.

But if a couple are big hits then it's worth it.



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pbroy said:
I think most of us on here are too old and too young to enjoy this type of showing. Put your mindset as if you were 15 years younger or 30 years older, then judge it. I did just that and enjoyed it. Disneyland at home... HELL YES!! M$ already won E3.

The games I liked in 1996 I still like today.  I doubt my tastes are going to change radically in 2041.  Although this reminds me how many great devs are gone now.  RIP Westwood, Origin Systems, Mythos, etc.



Alby_da_Wolf said:
badgenome said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
badgenome said:
deadt0m said:
Indubitably. Unless Project Cafe is some Virtual Boy-esque laughing stock.

Good news, Microsoft. It is.

Is it really so bad? (I couldn't follow the conf feed, not only for lack of time, but also because it gets me seasick  )

I really don't even understand what it is. Is it a console or a tablet or what? Why the fuck do they have to be so vague? Whyyyyyyy?


Oh my, from what I could gather, it looks like an add-on for Wii... And it doesn't look very handy...

Latest news from sources that understood it better (apparently they presented it in a way many misunderstood), it's actually a new system, not an add-on, and it looks not as bad as the misunderstandings made it appear. So, if Why You, YU, Wii U or whatever actually is not bad, this leaves MS in the last place.



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voty2000 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
voty2000 said:
Microsoft is trying to expand it's market and this conference has shown that. To the "Hardcore" gamers this seems lacking but that isn't what Microsoft is going after now. They have Gears 3, Halo Remake and 3rd party games to support the "hardcore" gamer. They have just about all the "hardcore" gamers they are going to get so now the focus is on the casual market so they can expand the market. Just wait till this holiday season when Kinect starts selling like mad again.

Forum dwellers act like exclusives are really important but that isn't entirely true. Sony is releasing many more exclusives than Microsoft and is outselling it by only a small amount. The exclusive they are releasing are no longer console sellers like they were when the generation started so focusing on the casuals is the next logical step.

In short no, Microsoft has not lost. They are appealing to a different market which is much larger than the "hardcore" market. I watched the conference with my 11 year old nephew and now he wants me to get Kinect so we can play. He loved it.

Most of Microsofts kinect titles will go unnoticed.

But if a couple are big hits then it's worth it.

The core wont support Ryse the way its meant to, and Dance Central will sell. Kinect will still be known as the Dance Central console.



I was wrong voting yes, every single conference was pretty boring to me. Sony provided nothing to interest me on the PS3 front and I can hardly get excited about a handheld device price announcement that isn't ridiclulous but is still more than I'm going to spend. The less said about Nintendo's conference the better, I think a shortage of anything new and interesting in terms of games about sums up my thoughts.

I'm not declaring a winner as I will watch the conferences again before I make my mind up but its ended up a lot closer than it ever should have been. I'm still not sure how Sony and Nintendo have managed to launch new hardware and not make the shows exciting. The 3DS reveal at E3 last year was far superior to both hardware launches this year.



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pariz said:
mundus6 said:

Yes and no, they had an awful conference, but they did announce Halo 4, which is the best game announced at this show so far. Sony didn't have a single good surprise game (or even mediocre) even though they had a better conference and the only other surprised game i seen so far that is triple A is Far Cry 3, which yeah Halo 4 looks better than.


And you are saying that because you actually saw ingame graphics, right?

I can understand you more interested in the later (which I'm not), but you couldn't possibly defend your statement out of a cinematic - gameplay comparison. The funny thing is that Far Cry ingame graphics looked better than those cinematics if you ask me.

Touchy subject? Anyway i didn't make my self clear. Which game is the bigger annoucement Halo 4 or Far Cry 3? What you personally are looking forward to is another thing entirely. But you can't deny that the buzz for Halo 4 will be bigger.

Also, personally i did not like the trailer of Far Cry 3, not saying that the game looks bad, since it looks pretty good, but Far Cry 2 also looked pretty good. It got boring after like 10 hours or so, so i gave up on that game and never completed it. So far it looks like Far Cry 2 again, but on an Island instead of in Africa. Far Cry 3 will have my attention though, just not as much attention as Halo 4.



mundus6 said:
pariz said:
mundus6 said:

Yes and no, they had an awful conference, but they did announce Halo 4, which is the best game announced at this show so far. Sony didn't have a single good surprise game (or even mediocre) even though they had a better conference and the only other surprised game i seen so far that is triple A is Far Cry 3, which yeah Halo 4 looks better than.


And you are saying that because you actually saw ingame graphics, right?

I can understand you more interested in the later (which I'm not), but you couldn't possibly defend your statement out of a cinematic - gameplay comparison. The funny thing is that Far Cry ingame graphics looked better than those cinematics if you ask me.

Touchy subject? Anyway i didn't make my self clear. Which game is the bigger annoucement Halo 4 or Far Cry 3? What you personally are looking forward to is another thing entirely. But you can't deny that the buzz for Halo 4 will be bigger.

Also, personally i did not like the trailer of Far Cry 3, not saying that the game looks bad, since it looks pretty good, but Far Cry 2 also looked pretty good. It got boring after like 10 hours or so, so i gave up on that game and never completed it. So far it looks like Far Cry 2 again, but on an Island instead of in Africa. Far Cry 3 will have my attention though, just not as much attention as Halo 4.


Hooray! More shooters on the 360! :)



slowmo said:
I was wrong voting yes, every single conference was pretty boring to me. Sony provided nothing to interest me on the PS3 front and I can hardly get excited about a handheld device price announcement that isn't ridiclulous but is still more than I'm going to spend. The less said about Nintendo's conference the better, I think a shortage of anything new and interesting in terms of games about sums up my thoughts.

I'm not declaring a winner as I will watch the conferences again before I make my mind up but its ended up a lot closer than it ever should have been. I'm still not sure how Sony and Nintendo have managed to launch new hardware and not make the shows exciting. The 3DS reveal at E3 last year was far superior to both hardware launches this year.


I think no one will dare to argue to that.