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TomaTito said:
So it's not a rumour any more? Really interested to see how Nintendo implements the controls and backwards compatibility to the remote+. Handheld to Console communications is something they've been aiming for, it was one of Revolutions features, and very few Wii games use it. So I hope it is more exploited this time.

Backwards compatibility is not really a problem no matter what controller Cafe uses. Just like the Wii supports Gamecube controllers, Cafe can also support Wiimotes for Wii games.

The real question is what motion control Cafe games will use, if any.



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That`s great news to me!
Having a tablet like controller is what i have been hoping since the rumors started and the news brings me closer to that vision.
All that`s missing is for Nintendo announce you can put memory cards on it to play downloadable VC or CafeWare games, without turning the console on to play them.

If i remember correctly, there was a rumor that said there would also be an updated Wii remote. What if you were given the chance to play the game with one controller or the other? Wouldn`t that satisfy both sides? Of course, the motion controller per se - as i believe the new controller will also have motion control or gyroscope - would lack the extras given to the controller with the screen, but it could be feasible a two way option to play.

About the price, Wii remote + nunchuk, sell for about 60/70 Euros, so a price tag around that value won`t be unreasonable.



With a 6" touchscreen etc. it will sure be expensive. But I'll refrain from commenting untill they show it so we can get a better idea.

One thing though, is that translation correct? It just seems to suggest that the pad will be able to play "games for a tablet device". Does it mean android games will be playable on it?



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NJ5 said:
TomaTito said:
So it's not a rumour any more? Really interested to see how Nintendo implements the controls and backwards compatibility to the remote+. Handheld to Console communications is something they've been aiming for, it was one of Revolutions features, and very few Wii games use it. So I hope it is more exploited this time.

Backwards compatibility is not really a problem no matter what controller Cafe uses. Just like the Wii supports Gamecube controllers, Cafe can also support Wiimotes for Wii games.

The real question is what motion control Cafe games will use, if any.

What I meant was that I have this suspicion that the remote+ will continue to be the motion controls for cafe, since they haven't really pushed the remote+ devices much (maybe will see more software this E3). The new controller would act like a classic controller with it's similar layout to the gamecube. If the control continues in Cafe, consumers would be more inclined to support their last remote+ only releases (I'd sell a normal remote to buy the bundled Wii Play Motion). Still they could just drop it and get a new one or implement it in the new control. 



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TomaTito said:
NJ5 said:
TomaTito said:
So it's not a rumour any more? Really interested to see how Nintendo implements the controls and backwards compatibility to the remote+. Handheld to Console communications is something they've been aiming for, it was one of Revolutions features, and very few Wii games use it. So I hope it is more exploited this time.

Backwards compatibility is not really a problem no matter what controller Cafe uses. Just like the Wii supports Gamecube controllers, Cafe can also support Wiimotes for Wii games.

The real question is what motion control Cafe games will use, if any.

What I meant was that I have this suspicion that the remote+ will continue to be the motion controls for cafe. The new controller would act like a classic controller with it's similar layout to the gamecube, since they haven't really pushed the remote+ devices much (maybe will see more software this E3). If the control continues in Cafe, consumers would be more inclined to support their last remote+ only releases (I'd sell a normal remote to buy the bundled Wii Play Motion). Still they could just drop it and get a new one or implement it in the new control. 

If they go that route they should include both the new controller and a wiimote plus on the box, thus increasing the price of the console.

Also developers, with they immense wisdom (note sarcasm), will only develop multiplat games with the new controller in mind as that'd make it easily.



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Mr Khan said:
Phoeniks.Wright said:
Well damn. This sounds crap. Since Nikkei "confirmed" this rumour, I'm going to cautiously assume that picture of the controller was and is going to be rather accurate, the one which looks like a 360 controller with a screen in the middle.
E3 never looked so dire. Especially for Nintendo.

I would find it hard to believe that they would abandon motion controls so handily, so i doubt we'll get exactly what we've seen. It has to be some kind of hybrid

Oh no, I find it incredibely easy to believe that they will abandon motion controls so easily. Just look at the games that they've released so far: how many actually use motion controls in a meaningfull way and not as a gimmick? I count 3 ( wii sports and sports resort, wii play as well ) good games, 1 okay-ish ( wii party ), and 1 terrible ( wii music ). Maybe I could add mario kart here, since it's used as a control method properly as well. That makes 6, of which 5 were released by 2008, 3 years ago.

I can only conclude that they could not give less of a damn about motion controls.

Of course, I'm not talking about something like a sixaxis controller, but that would be one hell of a downgrade.



Phoeniks.Wright said:
Mr Khan said:
Phoeniks.Wright said:
Well damn. This sounds crap. Since Nikkei "confirmed" this rumour, I'm going to cautiously assume that picture of the controller was and is going to be rather accurate, the one which looks like a 360 controller with a screen in the middle.
E3 never looked so dire. Especially for Nintendo.

I would find it hard to believe that they would abandon motion controls so handily, so i doubt we'll get exactly what we've seen. It has to be some kind of hybrid

Oh no, I find it incredibely easy to believe that they will abandon motion controls so easily. Just look at the games that they've released so far: how many actually use motion controls in a meaningfull way and not as a gimmick? I count 3 ( wii sports and sports resort, wii play as well ) good games, 1 okay-ish ( wii party ), and 1 terrible ( wii music ). Maybe I could add mario kart here, since it's used as a control method properly as well. That makes 6, of which 5 were released by 2008, 3 years ago.

I can only conclude that they could not give less of a damn about motion controls.

Of course, I'm not talking about something like a sixaxis controller, but that would be one hell of a downgrade.

Metroid Prime 3 used motion controls and the next Zelda also uses them. In fact you need wm+ to play it. Why would Nintendo use on it with Zelda and then thow it away on their next system?

Oh, and if you add 3rd party games there are some good examples on how to use motion controls, Zack & Wiki being one of them.

Edit.: Damm! The Quote thingy didn't work properly on IE9... a bug?



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We shouldn`t see the continuation or abandon of motion controllers by the games Nintendo released, we should also look how 3rd parties used. But more importantly - and this is where it does matter - how the market views that kind of playability. Thing is, it`s just what the mass market seems to like more and you can see that on how Wii Sports made an impact till this day and how Kinect was a big hit aswell.

So, in my view, Nintendo won`t abandon motion controllers. Of course, what remains to be seen is: it seems that the new controller will tablet like, so, one can assume it will have some sort of motion or gyroscope technology as tablets do. But Nintendo can do that and still bring to the market a updated Wii remote seeing as people or familiar with it.

If Nintendo decided to not persue that kind of playability i would sincerely be shocked.



I also think that Nintendo will be using the WMPlus or Wii Mote with Motion plus as a valid control scheme for the Cafe. No way they will go tablet only lol, I still think that idea is abominable if it were the only possible controller input. Just take a look at how hard Nintnedo's been trying to push the Motion Plus and lately the Wii Mote Plus. Making all kinds of bundles and even allowing 3rd parties to bundle the Mplus. All new Wii's now come with a WiiMote Plus and as of July 2009 every Wii came bundled with a MPlus accessory. And yet we have seen such poor support for it coming from Nintendo that we have to question if what they are doing is really preparing their older users to upgrade to their new system and so them having to invest a lot less in controllers.

Anyways the tablet like controller is perhaps the worst idea I've seen in my life for anything ever created if it's how Nikkei sets it up to be. That's why I'll be waiting for E3, but my hype went down to zero. I hope they don't ruin their best franchises with a stupid move.



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Rainbird said:

You gotta give it to Nintendo, they're making gamers curious.


That is true. Hopefully, 3rd party devs will take advantage of these new features.



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