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mchaza on 25 July 2011

well at the 250 price tag and sony hopefully having common sense to not region lock a portable console thats big use is plane flights i will be having one in my bag to play on train home and while at uni.

If i payed big for the ipad thats dam expensive i would of played it like a game console anyways and its too big and impactical for me and any student, when you could buy a macbook pro instead.

this cheap pocket rocket is far better than burning my battery on my smart phone. Only problem i have is that 1. the games are going to be too expensive. Free app ad supported games, 1-5 dollar app games are required on the store alone with more upmarket app game 5-15 dollar game, then the full games that run for 15-30 dollars with 30 dollars USD being the max for games like uncharted.

If they screw up the pricing and not have those cheap app games to compliment the bigger titles then the system will fail. SONY can capitalise by having low prices and a good competitive store to that of the itunes then they have a real good chance of taking a chunk of the tablet market.

Also they should get google to create them a android platform for the device and allow other apps on there so it becomes the smaller, cheaper tablet.



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Adobo on 25 July 2011

Like someone already mentioned, Tablets are also getting so popular these days. Who knew maybe by the time NGP or Vita get released, a more powerful GPU/CPU on ipad2 type of tablet are already avail.



hikaruchan on 25 July 2011
trent44 said:
hikaruchan said:
Black_Scurge said:
Phone games will never come close to handheld quality games for several reasons

1. They'd never get the budget, phone games sell for 15 bucks at absolute most, so they can't afford to make full fledged games

2. Hardware constants, phones aren't as powerful as handhelds, and even if they get to be the devs will always cater to an older one for a larger install base

3.touch only controls, they suck, you see that youtube video of the guy trying to play sonic on a touch screen, yeah, it works for some games but others it's almost unplayable

add to that phones cost more and it's pretty clear anyone interested in gaming would prefer a handheld

I see you don't own a smarphone!

I suppose I will weigh in as a smart phone owner; these issues are quite obvious.

Massive downward price pressure of the saturated iOS and Android app stores significantly limits the size of budget a game can receive. Also, games on smart phones also have very little visibility, trying to be the top 100 out of the +500,000 is never easy. Also the average smart phone game makes about $4,000 total revenue; even the entirety of the Angry Bird brand's total revenue just reaches ~$75mil and trying to repeat such large level of sales is not likely for most genres or games.

Hardware being fixed for a long period of time is a good thing. This means what you invest in today will continually have optimized software produced for it for a longer life cycle without you having to further investment in new hardware. More optimized software = Good

Smart phone controls are quite limited in comparison to to the breadth and depth of opportunity the Vita offers to developers to explore new, more fun, more interesting, or more engaging ways to play. Developers in tern have less constraints on what gameplay experience they can create.

Smart phones have additional constraints on hardware having to share a large amount of resources with the OS and more importantly the battery.

Portable gaming on a separate device mitigates these issues.

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Lafiel on 25 July 2011
Adobo said:
Like someone already mentioned, Tablets are also getting so popular these days. Who knew maybe by the time NGP or Vita get released, a more powerful GPU/CPU on ipad2 type of tablet are already avail.


it's likely that tablets will catch up in tech pretty quickly, but the question is, how many games will make use of it?

probably not too many



Black_Scurge on 25 July 2011
mchaza said:
well at the 250 price tag and sony hopefully having common sense to not region lock a portable console thats big use is plane flights i will be having one in my bag to play on train home and while at uni.

If i payed big for the ipad thats dam expensive i would of played it like a game console anyways and its too big and impactical for me and any student, when you could buy a macbook pro instead.

this cheap pocket rocket is far better than burning my battery on my smart phone. Only problem i have is that 1. the games are going to be too expensive. Free app ad supported games, 1-5 dollar app games are required on the store alone with more upmarket app game 5-15 dollar game, then the full games that run for 15-30 dollars with 30 dollars USD being the max for games like uncharted.

If they screw up the pricing and not have those cheap app games to compliment the bigger titles then the system will fail. SONY can capitalise by having low prices and a good competitive store to that of the itunes then they have a real good chance of taking a chunk of the tablet market.

Also they should get google to create them a android platform for the device and allow other apps on there so it becomes the smaller, cheaper tablet.

It's already confirmed to have pssuite, which is Sony's phone store that they have on their smart phone, so psv will have the cheap apps psn games like the ones on ps3 are confirmed too, same with enhanced psp BC so they are already doing all that 



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M.U.G.E.N on 25 July 2011
mchaza said:
well at the 250 price tag and sony hopefully having common sense to not region lock a portable console thats big use is plane flights i will be having one in my bag to play on train home and while at uni.

If i payed big for the ipad thats dam expensive i would of played it like a game console anyways and its too big and impactical for me and any student, when you could buy a macbook pro instead.

this cheap pocket rocket is far better than burning my battery on my smart phone. Only problem i have is that 1. the games are going to be too expensive. Free app ad supported games, 1-5 dollar app games are required on the store alone with more upmarket app game 5-15 dollar game, then the full games that run for 15-30 dollars with 30 dollars USD being the max for games like uncharted.

If they screw up the pricing and not have those cheap app games to compliment the bigger titles then the system will fail. SONY can capitalise by having low prices and a good competitive store to that of the itunes then they have a real good chance of taking a chunk of the tablet market.

Also they should get google to create them a android platform for the device and allow other apps on there so it becomes the smaller, cheaper tablet.


it's already confirmed..no region lock :)



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IseeLight on 10 August 2011
Adobo said:
Like someone already mentioned, Tablets are also getting so popular these days. Who knew maybe by the time NGP or Vita get released, a more powerful GPU/CPU on ipad2 type of tablet are already avail.

Even if that were true (which it isn't) it will be years before newer model ipads/phones see any support beyond what the original ones offer at slightly faster speeds.



existenz2 on 09 July 2013

THis is not a reasonable comparison in the first place, because the Vita is not a Smartphone!

 

It is a dedicated mobile gaming platform with add on features such as web browser.

 

If you had mentioned 3DS that would be a more reasonable comparison perhaps.



manuel on 09 July 2013

Wow, talk about digging up old threads. O.O



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tiffac on 09 July 2013

Necro thread! XD