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Galaki said:

The major lesson for Sony: Do not mess with Linux fans. They have the skills to fight back.

Haha, that cracked me up.



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Galaki said:

The major lesson for Sony: Do not mess with Linux fans. They have the skills to fight back.


I was saying this back when they first got rid of the Other OS option. I also said that collecting IP adresses and raiding people's homes was a VERY bad idea. I think sometimes people's blind love for Sony affects their judgement.

I knew they were going to be targeted by hackers all over the world, I just didn't know they were going to bring Sony to their knees so easily.



So, when is this attack supposed to go down?



theprof00 said:

So, when is this attack supposed to go down?


Supposedly they already have breached their security or something. Sony just hasn't noticed. If you read the thread someone posted a link and all that. People just ignored it. 

Edit: Found a link http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-05-31-lulzsec-were-hacking-sony-right-now



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Kasz216 said:
deskpro2k3 said:
Kasz216 said:
deskpro2k3 said:

everyone i know that jailbreak their ps3 is pirating games. hell, one of my friends asked me to borrow some of my games to copy... hell no

Which is... completely irrelevent?


kasz216, you're just not seeing the big picture here. I can't help you any more than that.

No... i'd suggest you don't see the big picture.

I rest my case. There is nothing further to discuss.



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theprof00 said:

So, when is this attack supposed to go down?


And apparently they already hacked one of Sony's Japanese sites 

http://www.thehackernews.com/2011/05/lulzsec-leak-sonys-japanese-websites.html



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From what I have gleamed from their twitter account. Which is a real fucking mess by the way. The attack was successful sometime yesterday probably against a Sony music website. They do not seem to be interested with gaming right now. However the Sony gaming fanboys are visciously attacking them. Hackers can be like trolls if they do the math they may decide that gaming is where they will find even more lulz. They also talk about launching another attack on Sony.

I suppose if true then Sony will confirm a breach in the next couple days, or maybe someone will find some altered pics on the website. You have to remember hackers generally do not tell the world what they have done. That takes away from the surprise, and that negatively impacts the lulz. Telling someone they are about to sit on a thumb tack isn't as funny as seeing someone sit on a thumb tack.

Anyway probably good news, and bad news. Sony got hacked which is bad. Gaming didn't get hacked which is good. Most of you guys shouldn't care too much in any case. They didn't break into the house. Just into the garage. Losing a cordless drill is nothing compared to losing a big screen, or a shelf full of games and movies.

Could be wrong about this. God Twitter fucking sucks. It is like reading half a conversation, and the half you get is some strange form of gibberish. I knew there was a reason I didn't opt to become a twit.



Dodece said:

This thread is bursting with bad logic, but one sentiment really struck a nerve with me. The sentiment that two wrongs do not make a right is absolutely false. Sure it sounds good, but society most often practices the opposite, and views the end result as being right. I feel a example is called for. I think we all agree locking people into small rooms is wrong. I think we all agree that killing another human being is wrong. However that doesn't stop us from locking murderers in small rooms. Then considering the act to be right.

We fundamentally view punishment of a offender as a righteous act. The negative response is proportional to the crime. I see a lot of people advocating that Sony not be bound by consequences for its acts. I am sorry where others see overkill in the hackers attacks I see letting Sony just slide right by as being equally reprehensible. People talk about this being fought out in court. I think everyone knows that isn't exactly fair. People feeling victimized being forced to spend a great deal of money they do not have to fight a corporation with what amounts to bottomless wealth. You are not advocating for these people having a stand up fight. Your advocating that Sony has the right to bend someone over the table and rape them.

Perhaps I am more fairness minded then most. Seeing as neither side would readily fight a war in the middle ground that cannot be determined by wealth or technical skill. All I can say is this all things are fair in war. Soldiers fight in the way that gives them the greatest advantage. Computer hackers will hack, because that is what they are good at. Sony wants to litigate, because they have ungodly wealth to pay a army of lawyers. Technically speaking they are both very unsporting, Since both sides fight dirty I wouldn't get mired down in one being worse then the others.

What bothers me about this is the Sony break it mentality. Instead of finding a way to make something work. They just like to break things, because is saves time and money. I am sure there was a technical solution to their problem that would have allowed the console to retain a property it was sold on, and to address potential security concerns. There is a bad logic at play that says it is okay to break something that belongs to someone else to make life easier for you.

A lot of people in this thread are buying into this shitty logic. That it has to be all or nothing. I am sorry there is always a reasonable compromise that can be made, and if Sony had just tried to do that. Even had they failed Geohotz probably wouldn't have felt a need to jailbreak the PS3 in the first place, and none of this would have happened. More to the point it would have probably helped the public image of Sony.

When companies treat people fairly it usually results in good things. Valve has been hacked a number of times. That said however the hackers are usually caught. The reason is simple people really live Valve, and Valve really treats its customers with respect. So when Valve asks for help in finding hackers. Usually someone rats them out. Hacking into a Valve server is a pretty good way to find yourself in leg irons.

Sony should learn from this, and work towards getting more respect. Making people happy is just good business. Going out of your way to piss people off isn't going to bring good things. Going after Geohotz was just plain dumb. There was nothing that could be done at that point to put the genie back in the bottle. They wanted to make an example out of somebody, and that is just plain mean sprited.


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Maybe in several years time I can forget about the horrible wrongs Sony as done, but as for now, I cannot feel sorry for Sony.  Sorry Sony, stop trying to damage your consumers.  Stop trying to arrest you consumers and have them thrown in jail.  Stop trying to cause them to lose their jobs and break up their families.  Sony owes everyone on Earth a huge SORRY.



 

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FreeTalkLive said:

Maybe in several years time I can forget about the horrible wrongs Sony as done, but as for now, I cannot feel sorry for Sony.  Sorry Sony, stop trying to damage your consumers.  Stop trying to arrest you consumers and have them thrown in jail.  Stop trying to cause them to lose their jobs and break up their families.  Sony owes everyone on Earth a huge SORRY.

Yeah! SONY also needs to apologise for global warming and nuclear weapons.