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dsister on 31 May 2011
o_O.Q said:

for the most part i have said that this whole issue of property boils down to this : yes you can take your console and modify it as you like but when you reach the point where your modding affects other people and their property then you've crossed a line

like for example if i had a car i could strap a sword to it but it must remain within my personal space so that others aren't affect... however if i disregard others and drive that car out in public then im posing a threat to them and their property which is unacceptable

i believe the same should apply to console modding if you mod a console your mods shouldn't affect others but thats exactly what happened with geohot who posted those keys ( but according to him whose words we should trust because apparently hes a saint he did not partake in any malicious actvities ) and suddenly hacking shyrockets to a point where its difficult to play some games and there are more reports of piracy


And as this argument has gone every time someone has used it. It boils down to two points basically. 

1. You can mod your car every way you want. You just can't go on the public roads[PSN]

2. You are legally allowed to go on the internet and tell people how you did it. You aren't responsible for what other people do... 



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o_O.Q on 31 May 2011
dsister said:
o_O.Q said:

the root keys were released in the time period of late last year to early this year and yes afterwards the issues with CoD ( which never happened on that scale ever before ) happened


So, wait was there cheating on CoD before the masterkey incident or not? 

i didn't personally experience it before the keys were released but yes i would think there was probably hacking on all games but not to that extent, for example i met i guy who could place himself in walss in uncharted 2 before the keys were released but that was one single isolated occasion



LivingMetal on 31 May 2011
vlad321 said:
LivingMetal said:
vlad321 said:
PakChiuCheng said:

Admit it. Most of you who are happy that Sony are being hacked and encourage this behaviour, defending the hackers are just fanboys of your respective consoles (Xbox/Wii)

 

I just look at the profile of these Sony bashers and they are the Wii/Xbox people. What if your precious console gets hacked instead? You'll still encourage these hackers?


I am neither an xbox or a wii person. I am however anti root-kit person, and really anti anything that fucks with my consumer rights. Sony just has happened to excel at that.

 

Are there root kits on the PS3?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal


And this relates to the PS3 how...?  Besides, I'm pro-competition and anti-monopolistic.  Wasn't Microsoft found guilty of being monopolistic by the Department of Justice.  Oh, they were:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft

So if we believe in competition, why are we supporting Microsoft?  But realistically, I don't use petty excuses to bash a company.  But being consistent with your own stance, you really shouldn't support Microsoft unless you're pro-monopolistic.  Or even Nintendo for that matter.  Former Nintendo head Yamauchi treated 3rd party developers like dirt back during the N64 days.  So why are you here anyway since you don't support Sony , Microsoft, and Nintendo?  They're all bad.



LivingMetal on 31 May 2011
dsister said:
o_O.Q said:

"o_O.Q has been defending Sony for ages now"

? how did you arrive at tht conclusion? what have i said that you consider defending?


I've been following your posts since you joined this site(mostly because we post in the same threads). You defend Sony quite often. 


You bash Sony quite often.



vlad321 on 31 May 2011
LivingMetal said:
vlad321 said:
LivingMetal said:
vlad321 said:
PakChiuCheng said:

Admit it. Most of you who are happy that Sony are being hacked and encourage this behaviour, defending the hackers are just fanboys of your respective consoles (Xbox/Wii)

 

I just look at the profile of these Sony bashers and they are the Wii/Xbox people. What if your precious console gets hacked instead? You'll still encourage these hackers?


I am neither an xbox or a wii person. I am however anti root-kit person, and really anti anything that fucks with my consumer rights. Sony just has happened to excel at that.

 

Are there root kits on the PS3?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal


And this relates to the PS3 how...?  Besides, I'm pro-competition and anti-monopolistic.  Wasn't Microsoft found guilty of being monopolistic by the Department of Justice.  Oh, they were:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft

So if we believe in competition, why are we supporting Microsoft?  But realistically, I don't use petty excuses to bash a company.  But being consistent with your own stance, you really shouldn't support Microsoft unless you're pro-monopolistic.  Or even Nintendo for that matter.  Former Nintendo head Yamauchi treated 3rd party developers like dirt back during the N64 days.  So why are you here anyway since you don't support Sony , Microsoft, and Nintendo?  They're all bad.


Ok let's use our 3 brain cells we have. rootkig coems form Sony, which makes PS3. Oh WOW! TWO degrees of separatoin. Unbelieveable.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

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dsister on 31 May 2011
LivingMetal said:


You bash Sony quite often.


lol, I bash all companies, besides Ninty. The Sony forum is just much more active so it's seen more. 

Heck, the first time I had interaction with Thranx he accused me of not owning a 360 and just trolling it xD. 

I'm certainly biased, don't get me wrong, I'm not denying that. 



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o_O.Q on 31 May 2011
dsister said:
o_O.Q said:

for the most part i have said that this whole issue of property boils down to this : yes you can take your console and modify it as you like but when you reach the point where your modding affects other people and their property then you've crossed a line

like for example if i had a car i could strap a sword to it but it must remain within my personal space so that others aren't affect... however if i disregard others and drive that car out in public then im posing a threat to them and their property which is unacceptable

i believe the same should apply to console modding if you mod a console your mods shouldn't affect others but thats exactly what happened with geohot who posted those keys ( but according to him whose words we should trust because apparently hes a saint he did not partake in any malicious actvities ) and suddenly hacking shyrockets to a point where its difficult to play some games and there are more reports of piracy


And as this argument has gone every time someone has used it. It boils down to two points basically. 

1. You can mod your car every way you want. You just can't go on the public roads[PSN]

2. You are legally allowed to go on the internet and tell people how you did it. You aren't responsible for what other people do... 

he is responsible for what happened regardless of his intentions if the keys weren't distributed it wouldn't have happened... thats like me giving an ak to a maniac and telling him don't kill anybody and he shoots up a school maybe i didn't intend for him to shoot up the school but at the end of the day im indirectly responsible for what happened

btw one thing that no one seems to be talking about is why he distributed the keys in the first place if he truly wanted to stop the piracy and cheating why didn't he just keep releasing the custom firmware? the custom firmware that he said stops piracy



LivingMetal on 31 May 2011
vlad321 said:
LivingMetal said:
vlad321 said:
LivingMetal said:
vlad321 said:
PakChiuCheng said:

Admit it. Most of you who are happy that Sony are being hacked and encourage this behaviour, defending the hackers are just fanboys of your respective consoles (Xbox/Wii)

 

I just look at the profile of these Sony bashers and they are the Wii/Xbox people. What if your precious console gets hacked instead? You'll still encourage these hackers?


I am neither an xbox or a wii person. I am however anti root-kit person, and really anti anything that fucks with my consumer rights. Sony just has happened to excel at that.

 

Are there root kits on the PS3?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal


And this relates to the PS3 how...?  Besides, I'm pro-competition and anti-monopolistic.  Wasn't Microsoft found guilty of being monopolistic by the Department of Justice.  Oh, they were:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft

So if we believe in competition, why are we supporting Microsoft?  But realistically, I don't use petty excuses to bash a company.  But being consistent with your own stance, you really shouldn't support Microsoft unless you're pro-monopolistic.  Or even Nintendo for that matter.  Former Nintendo head Yamauchi treated 3rd party developers like dirt back during the N64 days.  So why are you here anyway since you don't support Sony , Microsoft, and Nintendo?  They're all bad.


Ok let's use our 3 brain cells we have. rootkig coems form Sony, which makes PS3. Oh WOW! TWO degrees of separatoin. Unbelieveable.


And Microsoft was found guilty in court of being a monopoly who happens to make the Xbox 360.  Is that a reason why we shouldn't buy and enjoy an Xbox 360?



vlad321 on 31 May 2011
LivingMetal said:
vlad321 said:
LivingMetal said:


And this relates to the PS3 how...?  Besides, I'm pro-competition and anti-monopolistic.  Wasn't Microsoft found guilty of being monopolistic by the Department of Justice.  Oh, they were:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft

So if we believe in competition, why are we supporting Microsoft?  But realistically, I don't use petty excuses to bash a company.  But being consistent with your own stance, you really shouldn't support Microsoft unless you're pro-monopolistic.  Or even Nintendo for that matter.  Former Nintendo head Yamauchi treated 3rd party developers like dirt back during the N64 days.  So why are you here anyway since you don't support Sony , Microsoft, and Nintendo?  They're all bad.


Ok let's use our 3 brain cells we have. rootkig coems form Sony, which makes PS3. Oh WOW! TWO degrees of separatoin. Unbelieveable.


And Microsoft was found guilty in court of being a monopoly who happens to make the Xbox 360.  Is that a reason why we shouldn't buy and enjoy an Xbox 360?


Did Microsoft compromise my PC?



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

brendude13 on 31 May 2011
dsister said:
brendude13 said:

They did something to Fox?

If they weren't threatening to hack PSN again I would actually like these guys.

tl;dr http://i.imgur.com/TkI54.png

password list below

Dear Fox.com,

We don't like you very much. As such, we cordially invite you to kiss our hand-crafted crescent fresh asses.

Remember that time we leaked all your X-Factor contestants? *removed*

Well now we're leaking some more of your junk. We invite the Internet to ravage the following list of emails and passwords (from a database within Fox.com) - 

Facebook, MySpace, PayPal, whatever you can get your hands on. Take from them everything. Remember to proxy up, or tunnel like a pro!

Follow us on twitter; we're owning more things next week. Kisses!

All the best,

LulzSec

twitter.com/LulzSec

Edit:Why does whenever I post something from their site the formatting goes to hell? >.< 

Give me a sec, I'll fix it 

Now that's just crossing a line.

Forget it, burn him at the stake too.