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TT Makaveli said:
Xen said:
TT Makaveli said:

for their first entry in the handheld-business it definatly a HUGE success hardware-wise...but on the other hand Sony really got it bad with the Software...i mean in the end they maybe only sold 15-25% of what it could had sold if the piracy wasnt that bad and the PSP and it games wasnt that easy to hack...

Truth be told, after experiencing hacking both the DS and the PSP, the DS is eons easier. PSP's problem is that the games are not truly portable. They are PS2 games on a handheld with a really slow drive. That is a good part of the reason why the DS did much better, I will not go about the others.

It is, however, a strong success. Lots of good games available and real lots of hardware sold.

another problem from the PSP is that they are more older gamers...i mean you got millions of kids with DS and the parents buying them games and you got millions of adults who got a PSP that prefer hacking games than buying ^^

Older players also know that such hacks exist. The good thing for the DS is that the majoity doesn't know that they can get their games for free. Imagine what would happen if the acekard had a TV ad, hahaha.



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Xen said:
TT Makaveli said:
Xen said:
TT Makaveli said:

for their first entry in the handheld-business it definatly a HUGE success hardware-wise...but on the other hand Sony really got it bad with the Software...i mean in the end they maybe only sold 15-25% of what it could had sold if the piracy wasnt that bad and the PSP and it games wasnt that easy to hack...

Truth be told, after experiencing hacking both the DS and the PSP, the DS is eons easier. PSP's problem is that the games are not truly portable. They are PS2 games on a handheld with a really slow drive. That is a good part of the reason why the DS did much better, I will not go about the others.

It is, however, a strong success. Lots of good games available and real lots of hardware sold.

another problem from the PSP is that they are more older gamers...i mean you got millions of kids with DS and the parents buying them games and you got millions of adults who got a PSP that prefer hacking games than buying ^^

Older players also know that such hacks exist. The good thing for the DS is that the majoity doesn't know that they can get their games for free. Imagine what would happen if the acekard had a TV ad, hahaha.

while I wouldn't say the majority know about DS piracy, I know quite a few people with R4 cards.  And the strangest thing is that more of them are middle-aged women, rather than what I would've considered the more likely suspects for game piracy.  The worst thing is that most of them are under the illusion that what they are doing is completely legal.

While I can't say if this is representative of the rest of EMEAA, it could contribute to the very low DS softwares sales we have .




MrT-Tar said:
Xen said:
TT Makaveli said:
Xen said:
TT Makaveli said:

for their first entry in the handheld-business it definatly a HUGE success hardware-wise...but on the other hand Sony really got it bad with the Software...i mean in the end they maybe only sold 15-25% of what it could had sold if the piracy wasnt that bad and the PSP and it games wasnt that easy to hack...

Truth be told, after experiencing hacking both the DS and the PSP, the DS is eons easier. PSP's problem is that the games are not truly portable. They are PS2 games on a handheld with a really slow drive. That is a good part of the reason why the DS did much better, I will not go about the others.

It is, however, a strong success. Lots of good games available and real lots of hardware sold.

another problem from the PSP is that they are more older gamers...i mean you got millions of kids with DS and the parents buying them games and you got millions of adults who got a PSP that prefer hacking games than buying ^^

Older players also know that such hacks exist. The good thing for the DS is that the majoity doesn't know that they can get their games for free. Imagine what would happen if the acekard had a TV ad, hahaha.

while I wouldn't say the majority know about DS piracy, I know quite a few people with R4 cards.  And the strangest thing is that more of them are middle-aged women, rather than what I would've considered the more likely suspects for game piracy.  The worst thing is that most of them are under the illusion that what they are doing is completely legal.

While I can't say if this is representative of the rest of EMEAA, it could contribute to the very low DS softwares sales we have .

R4's? They are under the illusion that it's a good flashcart, too, then :D

Being an EMEAA denizen myself, I'll say that piracy is certainly strong with us. EMEAA is the worst region out of the three, period.



Xen said:
MrT-Tar said:
Xen said:
TT Makaveli said:
Xen said:
TT Makaveli said:

for their first entry in the handheld-business it definatly a HUGE success hardware-wise...but on the other hand Sony really got it bad with the Software...i mean in the end they maybe only sold 15-25% of what it could had sold if the piracy wasnt that bad and the PSP and it games wasnt that easy to hack...

Truth be told, after experiencing hacking both the DS and the PSP, the DS is eons easier. PSP's problem is that the games are not truly portable. They are PS2 games on a handheld with a really slow drive. That is a good part of the reason why the DS did much better, I will not go about the others.

It is, however, a strong success. Lots of good games available and real lots of hardware sold.

another problem from the PSP is that they are more older gamers...i mean you got millions of kids with DS and the parents buying them games and you got millions of adults who got a PSP that prefer hacking games than buying ^^

Older players also know that such hacks exist. The good thing for the DS is that the majoity doesn't know that they can get their games for free. Imagine what would happen if the acekard had a TV ad, hahaha.

while I wouldn't say the majority know about DS piracy, I know quite a few people with R4 cards.  And the strangest thing is that more of them are middle-aged women, rather than what I would've considered the more likely suspects for game piracy.  The worst thing is that most of them are under the illusion that what they are doing is completely legal.

While I can't say if this is representative of the rest of EMEAA, it could contribute to the very low DS softwares sales we have .

R4's? They are under the illusion that it's a good flashcart, too, then :D

Being an EMEAA denizen myself, I'll say that piracy is certainly strong with us. EMEAA is the worst region out of the three, period.


The odd thing is that despite knowing lots of people with all the different platforms, I only know of piracy with the handhelds.  It must be a different mindset people have compared to the home consoles.  Despite how much I hearing about Wii hacking, I don't know anyone who has done in personally despite the same people doing it with a DS and/or PSP.  The closest I know of were people importing NSTC copies of SSBB and playing them on a PAL Wii via Freeloader.

I've  never pirated games, but with anime my hand is kind of forced.  With none shown on U.K TV bar the occasional Ghibli film, and the fact that some high profile series aren't released here at all (like One Piece), I have little choice.  It's almost a vicious cycle, where these factors which encourage downloading off the internet, have a negative effect on anime DVD sales, which results in less being release here, etc.  I still buy U.K anime DVDs when I can to help the industry, I have the likes of Bleach, Death Note, Fullmetal Alchemist, Soul Eater, Elfen Lied and Ghost in the Shell S.A.C, amongst many films.  The last thing I want is for the handheld market to become like this, even more so because the 3DS is region locked, thus removing my safety net if a game isn't localised.

Anyway, I feel like I really gone off topic...




padib said:

If you look at the PSP along its lifetime, it is definitely a success. Its latest sales in Japan are the sealing point for any doubt. It has major software offerings, Monster Hunter Portable 3rd Gen is the testament of that.

If you looked at the PSP for its first 3 years on the market, it was a failure. That's why people are confused about this topic. PSP was supposed to be on par or beat the DS, as most people expected, given the PS brand trackrecord at the time (right after the KING of consoles, the PS2). But it failed at that, especially in the first few years on market. Now with PSP beating the DS in japan, we're starting to see how Nintendo's consoles lack longevity, whereas Sony's consoles have more long-lasting appeal as platforms. The same phenomenon is happening with the PS3. So the PSP definitely got out of its rut, and became a legitimate contender to its competition. That's what I consider success. If it kept selling at weak rates, and kept offering weak versions of PS2 games, of course one would consider it a failure, just like everyone does the Gamegear et al.

On a side-note @ MUGEN, I'm sorry but your double-standards are really off. If you're considering the Wii laughable because it's getting beating at this point in its lifetime, or that the 3DS is a failure only 3 months into launch, it shows your lack of depth in understanding platforms and their lifetime curves. Your bias is really hard to swallow, and your "Move along" comments are so dumb, it's not even funny. People have points of view, and legitimate ones at that. In the mean time you're playing hegemonist, and its just silly.


if you can't understand what a person is trying to say, ask questions, don't assume crap it makes you look like a complete idiot in the process. Why I think wii is laughable is not only because it's current status, it's the gaming library, hw strength etc etc. and that's not even the point I was trying to make. You can't come up with measures of success on your own. You can't seem to graps the concept of common sense, and the comment as a whole is so dumb....well not that I expected any better from you. Here's a little info for you, a products success doesn't mean the competition failed. DS did amazingly well, psp did great too. It has the sales and the gaming library to back it up. and fyi psp outsold ds in the first year or so iirc. I have a point of view that some of you should just move along, not many are agreeing with what you guys are saying and rambling on about it won't change that, it's just become rather silly now. PSP will sell about 80mil LT, has an extensive gaming library, earned sony money and helped them get their foot in on the portable gaming market. It's a great success for them. You are playing a ignorant game now and frankly not sure why I waste my time with you. Guess I touched a nerve with my 3ds comment LOL...sorry to hurt your feelings or something I guess. What you lack is an understanding of what is considered a success in a business, and that's ok, just try to educate on yourself on that a bit. common sense portion...can't help you there



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PSP suceeded greatly.  It just wasn't the greatest.

/thread?



d21lewis said:

PSP suceeded greatly.  It just wasn't the greatest.

/thread?


I believe so :) well done (no seriously, well done, couldn't have put it any better myself)



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M.U.G.E.N said:
d21lewis said:

PSP suceeded greatly.  It just wasn't the greatest.

/thread?


I believe so :) well done (no seriously, well done, couldn't have put it any better myself)


Well, you probably could have spelled "succeeded" better than I could have.......



d21lewis said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
d21lewis said:

PSP suceeded greatly.  It just wasn't the greatest.

/thread?


I believe so :) well done (no seriously, well done, couldn't have put it any better myself)


Well, you probably could have spelled "succeeded" better than I could have.......


nah, online grammar is not my thing :P



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Well I think the failure of the PSP was that as a game machine it got passed in total game sales revenue in a year by Apple iTunes for iOS devices.



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