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Chevinator123 on 22 May 2011
Grandia said:

You expect seriously a lower price for the NGP than what the 3DS has now? In which world do you life? The NGP is going to be a real powerfull System and will  easily outperform the 3DS performance. You may expect at least 300$ rather 350$ at the Releas. The 3DS really has a moderate price point in my opinion, 250$ is not that much. I got mine at 230$ that i a good price, the original Nintendo DS also cost 200$ at its Releas. There are only 30$ difference and the 3DS will soon get all the awesome Games.

 

But if you think the  NGP will offera better package for you than spar your money and wait for the NGP.


The NGP price definly wont be lower then the 3DS but i dont think itll be higher then 300$ (Well the 3G version probly will) The 3DS cost Nintendo 101-103$ to make right? Sony have said that they will be selling the NGP at a loss...This is why i find it hard to beleve the NGP will cost x3 more then the 3DS manufactoring costs if they plan to sell the NGP at a loss

i think ittl cost 249$ or 299$ for the WIFI version

But nintendo will probably price cut the 3DS before the NGP comes out anyway

I also think the bettery life should be pretty decent because of the OLED screen. Most screens on handheld devices are LCD screens with backlight behind it. But the OLED is plastic and does not need a backlight thus = it basicly uses no power at all, and we all know what consumes most of the power in handheld devices...the LCD screen and its backlight. (OLEDs are also pretty cheap to make)



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kcoward on 22 May 2011

Buy whatever the hell you want. Me personally? Im buying the 3DS cause im dam sure Nintendo will have better 3rd party support and original games for it. Im not buying one now cause it has no games that interest me at the moment but im confident after E3 they will have interesting stuff thats going to push sales.



kcoward on 22 May 2011
Chevinator123 said:
Grandia said:

You expect seriously a lower price for the NGP than what the 3DS has now? In which world do you life? The NGP is going to be a real powerfull System and will  easily outperform the 3DS performance. You may expect at least 300$ rather 350$ at the Releas. The 3DS really has a moderate price point in my opinion, 250$ is not that much. I got mine at 230$ that i a good price, the original Nintendo DS also cost 200$ at its Releas. There are only 30$ difference and the 3DS will soon get all the awesome Games.

 

But if you think the  NGP will offera better package for you than spar your money and wait for the NGP.


The NGP price definly wont be lower then the 3DS but i dont think itll be higher then 300$ (Well the 3G version probly will) The 3DS cost Nintendo 101-103$ to make right? Sony have said that they will be selling the NGP at a loss...This is why i find it hard to beleve the NGP will cost x3 more then the 3DS manufactoring costs if they plan to sell the NGP at a loss

i think ittl cost 249$ or 299$ for the WIFI version

But nintendo will probably price cut the 3DS before the NGP comes out anyway

I also think the bettery life should be pretty decent because of the OLED screen. Most screens on handheld devices are LCD screens with backlight behind it. But the OLED is plastic and does not need a backlight thus = it basicly uses no power at all, and we all know what consumes most of the power in handheld devices...the LCD screen and its backlight. (OLEDs are also pretty cheap to make

So what if a 3DS cost 100 dollars to make. They have to make back money that they spent in research and development, shipments and paying their employees/ rent for the company building etc. Its basic business knowledge. An Iphone 4 cost a lot less to make but is a hell of a lot more expensive than a 3DS and no one complains about that. If Nintendo is making a profit im sure its not even that much and when they make back the money for R&D thats when you will see price drops.



Chevinator123 on 22 May 2011
kcoward said:
Chevinator123 said:
Grandia said:

You expect seriously a lower price for the NGP than what the 3DS has now? In which world do you life? The NGP is going to be a real powerfull System and will  easily outperform the 3DS performance. You may expect at least 300$ rather 350$ at the Releas. The 3DS really has a moderate price point in my opinion, 250$ is not that much. I got mine at 230$ that i a good price, the original Nintendo DS also cost 200$ at its Releas. There are only 30$ difference and the 3DS will soon get all the awesome Games.

 

But if you think the  NGP will offera better package for you than spar your money and wait for the NGP.


The NGP price definly wont be lower then the 3DS but i dont think itll be higher then 300$ (Well the 3G version probly will) The 3DS cost Nintendo 101-103$ to make right? Sony have said that they will be selling the NGP at a loss...This is why i find it hard to beleve the NGP will cost x3 more then the 3DS manufactoring costs if they plan to sell the NGP at a loss

i think ittl cost 249$ or 299$ for the WIFI version

But nintendo will probably price cut the 3DS before the NGP comes out anyway

I also think the bettery life should be pretty decent because of the OLED screen. Most screens on handheld devices are LCD screens with backlight behind it. But the OLED is plastic and does not need a backlight thus = it basicly uses no power at all, and we all know what consumes most of the power in handheld devices...the LCD screen and its backlight. (OLEDs are also pretty cheap to make

So what if a 3DS cost 100 dollars to make. They have to make back money that they spent in research and development, shipments and paying their employees/ rent for the company building etc. Its basic business knowledge. An Iphone 4 cost a lot less to make but is a hell of a lot more expensive than a 3DS and no one complains about that. If Nintendo is making a profit im sure its not even that much and when they make back the money for R&D thats when you will see price drops.

That wasnt what i was trying to point out



naznatips on 22 May 2011
kitler53 said:
ninty_shareholder64 said:
loves2splooge said:

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Yeah sadly the NGP ... I played on the PC. 

sorry, but this long comment is full of strange numbers: "12% of people in the UK can't see in stereoscopic 3D very well"; really? what's the definition of not very well? i can't believe this. link? and then argumenting with gimmick, but everybody will copy? costs of glassless 3DTVs? i'm not getting this, sorry.

and the swift of people from handheld to mobile phone games is the wrong interpretation of the source.

They stated that the market share of handhelds declined compared to mobile games. But without decreasing absolute sales of hanheld games, it could very well be due to new gamers on mobiles, not switchers.

And these games on mobiles are so f***** cheap because most of the "true games" are ports of DS, PSP, so without handhelds no cheap ports, imo.

"I'd look like a dork being an adult male playing a DS"....

well, perhaps you not only look like a dork playing your 600$ phone but you are one, if you would pay the money for the newest phone just for playing cheap ports; looking like a business man with you phone, or what... gamer is gamer and you should be proud being a gamer, not hidden behind a phone acting like a complete schizophrenic.

imo


12% of brits can't see 3D

 

edit: i just wanted to give you the link but now i kinda want to comment as well.  quite a few people (including many of the usual nintendo fans on this site) posted prior to the 3DS's launch about how the 3DSs reliance on consumer interest in 3D was probably a bad idea.  people not being able to view 3D isn't a 3DS thing, we already knew that fact before the 3DS released.  we also know that the 3D box office is already in decline.

it will be interesting to see what happens when some of the better games come out.  however, i personally think it has more to do with consumers rejecting 3D than anything else.  nintendo bet the farm on the wrong thing this time (or so it is starting to look like).

i'm not so sure the NGP will do great either.  i'm more interested in it then the 3DS but i have a feeling it won't be making much of a splash either.  call me crazy all you want but i think IOs/Android are going to win the mobile gaming market over the next couple of years.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/entertainment/2011-02/24/content_12070571.htm 

Your link conflicts with other results. 3D TV sales also increased 90% YOY 2009-2010, and are expected to increase more than 100% 2011 - 2010, with more than 15 million 3D sets sold in the US alone this year. It's hardly a "bursting bubble" like many, yourself included, seem to hope it will be. Of course, this is good news for Sony as well, as 3D permeates the home they are one of the few people offering 3D home content. 

As for your prediction about the mobile market, it's sort of true, sort of not. They certainly took a bite out of it, and I expect NGP and 3DS to decrease in sales significantly from their predecessors. I predict 40-50 million lifetime for NGP and 80-100 million lifetime for 3DS. Big declines from the PSP and DS, but still enough to be incredibly successful systems.



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kcoward on 22 May 2011
Chevinator123 said:
kcoward said:
Chevinator123 said:
Grandia said:

You expect seriously a lower price for the NGP than what the 3DS has now? In which world do you life? The NGP is going to be a real powerfull System and will  easily outperform the 3DS performance. You may expect at least 300$ rather 350$ at the Releas. The 3DS really has a moderate price point in my opinion, 250$ is not that much. I got mine at 230$ that i a good price, the original Nintendo DS also cost 200$ at its Releas. There are only 30$ difference and the 3DS will soon get all the awesome Games.

 

But if you think the  NGP will offera better package for you than spar your money and wait for the NGP.


The NGP price definly wont be lower then the 3DS but i dont think itll be higher then 300$ (Well the 3G version probly will) The 3DS cost Nintendo 101-103$ to make right? Sony have said that they will be selling the NGP at a loss...This is why i find it hard to beleve the NGP will cost x3 more then the 3DS manufactoring costs if they plan to sell the NGP at a loss

i think ittl cost 249$ or 299$ for the WIFI version

But nintendo will probably price cut the 3DS before the NGP comes out anyway

I also think the bettery life should be pretty decent because of the OLED screen. Most screens on handheld devices are LCD screens with backlight behind it. But the OLED is plastic and does not need a backlight thus = it basicly uses no power at all, and we all know what consumes most of the power in handheld devices...the LCD screen and its backlight. (OLEDs are also pretty cheap to make

So what if a 3DS cost 100 dollars to make. They have to make back money that they spent in research and development, shipments and paying their employees/ rent for the company building etc. Its basic business knowledge. An Iphone 4 cost a lot less to make but is a hell of a lot more expensive than a 3DS and no one complains about that. If Nintendo is making a profit im sure its not even that much and when they make back the money for R&D thats when you will see price drops.

That wasnt what i was trying to point out

ok then sorry.....im used to people arguing  the 3DS cost $100 thats its not worth the price. guess i jumped to conclusions to quick.



SpartenOmega117 on 22 May 2011
kcoward said:
Chevinator123 said:
Grandia said:

You expect seriously a lower price for the NGP than what the 3DS has now? In which world do you life? The NGP is going to be a real powerfull System and will  easily outperform the 3DS performance. You may expect at least 300$ rather 350$ at the Releas. The 3DS really has a moderate price point in my opinion, 250$ is not that much. I got mine at 230$ that i a good price, the original Nintendo DS also cost 200$ at its Releas. There are only 30$ difference and the 3DS will soon get all the awesome Games.

 

But if you think the  NGP will offera better package for you than spar your money and wait for the NGP.


The NGP price definly wont be lower then the 3DS but i dont think itll be higher then 300$ (Well the 3G version probly will) The 3DS cost Nintendo 101-103$ to make right? Sony have said that they will be selling the NGP at a loss...This is why i find it hard to beleve the NGP will cost x3 more then the 3DS manufactoring costs if they plan to sell the NGP at a loss

i think ittl cost 249$ or 299$ for the WIFI version

But nintendo will probably price cut the 3DS before the NGP comes out anyway

I also think the bettery life should be pretty decent because of the OLED screen. Most screens on handheld devices are LCD screens with backlight behind it. But the OLED is plastic and does not need a backlight thus = it basicly uses no power at all, and we all know what consumes most of the power in handheld devices...the LCD screen and its backlight. (OLEDs are also pretty cheap to make

So what if a 3DS cost 100 dollars to make. They have to make back money that they spent in research and development, shipments and paying their employees/ rent for the company building etc. Its basic business knowledge. An Iphone 4 cost a lot less to make but is a hell of a lot more expensive than a 3DS and no one complains about that. If Nintendo is making a profit im sure its not even that much and when they make back the money for R&D thats when you will see price drops.


The 3DS still shouldn't cost that much. An ideal price would be $179.99 or even $199.99. And BTW A LOT of people on these forums complain about the prices of apple products



Galaki on 22 May 2011
SpartenOmega117 said:

The 3DS still shouldn't cost that much. An ideal price would be $179.99 or even $199.99. And BTW A LOT of people on these forums complain about the prices of apple products

Contrary what what many people believe, the price-worth is not based on how much the raw materials cost. Technology doesn't come free.

How much it's worth is largely based on how useful it is. Its preceived value, that is, which is varied for everyone.



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SpartenOmega117 on 23 May 2011
Galaki said:
SpartenOmega117 said:

The 3DS still shouldn't cost that much. An ideal price would be $179.99 or even $199.99. And BTW A LOT of people on these forums complain about the prices of apple products

Contrary what what many people believe, the price-worth is not based on how much the raw materials cost. Technology doesn't come free.

How much it's worth is largely based on how useful it is. Its preceived value, that is, which is varied for everyone.


Well with im pretty sure the 3DS will never be "useful" enough to cost $250. The market is just wayyy to competetive for it.$200 ipod touch 8gb vs $250 2gb Nintendo 3ds.  Im not an apple fan but I and I believe most teenagers  in high school would choose and ipod touch.



Galaki on 23 May 2011
SpartenOmega117 said:
Galaki said:
SpartenOmega117 said:

The 3DS still shouldn't cost that much. An ideal price would be $179.99 or even $199.99. And BTW A LOT of people on these forums complain about the prices of apple products

Contrary what what many people believe, the price-worth is not based on how much the raw materials cost. Technology doesn't come free.

How much it's worth is largely based on how useful it is. Its preceived value, that is, which is varied for everyone.

Well with im pretty sure the 3DS will never be "useful" enough to cost $250. The market is just wayyy to competetive for it.$200 ipod touch 8gb vs $250 2gb Nintendo 3ds.  Im not an apple fan but I and I believe most teenagers  in high school would choose and ipod touch.

Right. Even if the raw materials cost more than the console itself. It might not have the preceived value. The end product must be appealing on top of usability.

I can't justify the $250 for the 3DS neither ATM. Not until some must have games are released.



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