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RolStoppable said:
kitler53 said:

12% of brits can't see 3D

That's probably because they look into The Sun too often.


that's right rol ... visual impairments was entirely made up by the media.  ailments such as sea sickness causes by the brain receiving mix visual and other stimuli is also of course propaganda by the anti-nintnedo alliance generations ago in anticipation of the 3DS ...



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kitler53 said:
RolStoppable said:
kitler53 said:

12% of brits can't see 3D

That's probably because they look into The Sun too often.


that's right rol ... visual impairments was entirely made up by the media.  ailments such as sea sickness causes by the brain receiving mix visual and other stimuli is also of course propaganda by the anti-nintnedo alliance generations ago in anticipation of the 3DS ...

still refering to the link?

do you even tried to understand?



Coincidentally it's just one day ago that i joined a seminar with the title "Vision - from Eye to Cognition"

my presentation was about a paper from logothetis & Bartels et al. with the title "Binocular Rivalry: A time dependece of eye and stimulus contributions"

so please don't try to fool me.



RolStoppable said:
kitler53 said:
RolStoppable said:
kitler53 said:

12% of brits can't see 3D

That's probably because they look into The Sun too often.

that's right rol ... visual impairments was entirely made up by the media.  ailments such as sea sickness causes by the brain receiving mix visual and other stimuli is also of course propaganda by the anti-nintnedo alliance generations ago in anticipation of the 3DS ...

Okay... I was just trying to make a play on words, because looking directly into the sun isn't good for one's eyesight. At least that's what convential wisdom says.

if you were just trying to make a joke than i apologize for jumping on you like that.  to me it came of as another sarcastic comment that you known for so i probably just read more into the comment than you intended.

edit: for the record i did laugh at it even before replying.



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ninty_shareholder64 said:
loves2splooge said:
Buzzi said:
Soleron said:
o_O.Q said:
 


you can't be sure on that... they already said that they are on track to having a similar battery life to the psp which has a better battery life than the 3ds

They are not magically better system integrators than Nintendo. All of the following can't be true at once:

- Same screen brightness in 2D mode
- Better hardware performance than the 3DS
- Better battery life than the 3DS


Yeah sadly the NGP ... I played on the PC. 

sorry, but this long comment is full of strange numbers: "12% of people in the UK can't see in stereoscopic 3D very well"; really? what's the definition of not very well? i can't believe this. link? and then argumenting with gimmick, but everybody will copy? costs of glassless 3DTVs? i'm not getting this, sorry.

and the swift of people from handheld to mobile phone games is the wrong interpretation of the source.

They stated that the market share of handhelds declined compared to mobile games. But without decreasing absolute sales of hanheld games, it could very well be due to new gamers on mobiles, not switchers.

And these games on mobiles are so f***** cheap because most of the "true games" are ports of DS, PSP, so without handhelds no cheap ports, imo.

"I'd look like a dork being an adult male playing a DS"....

well, perhaps you not only look like a dork playing your 600$ phone but you are one, if you would pay the money for the newest phone just for playing cheap ports; looking like a business man with you phone, or what... gamer is gamer and you should be proud being a gamer, not hidden behind a phone acting like a complete schizophrenic.

imo

http://kotaku.com/5584737/12-of-british-people-cant-see-3d-properly the source (how many times do I gotta source this? Isn't it common knowledge that a lot of people can't see the 3D properly?)

What are you going on about with glasses-free HDTVs? I didn't say anything about that. Are you making reference to the glass-less 3D HTC Evo 3D smartphone and other Android glass-less 3D smartphones I mentioned? Those are phones, not TVs.

Many of the same games on smartphones that are popular today were the type of games that were popular on the DS. Brain training, sudoku, puzzle games, etc. With smartphones having so much overlap with the DS and DS numbers being down and smartphone gaming revenues shooting way up, how else can you interpret the data? Apple and Google are taking a bite out of Nintendo's market share.

As for smarpthones getting so-called watered down ports from dedicated gaming handhelds, so what? The mass market doesn't care. They see Bust A Move 3D for $40. They see Bust A Move for iOS/Android selling for $5. Why the hell would you  get the $40 version? Because it haz teh 3D? Even Brain Age won't have the same relevancy when that comes out for the 3DS. $40 Brain Age 3 versus mass of $0-$5 brain training/challenge clones on Android Market and Apple App Store. What do you think the "expanded market" is going to get? But it haz teh 3d! So does the HTC Evo 3D smartphone and the other 3D Android smartphones coming out.

Oh and you don't buy a smartphone for the games. The main uses of a smartphone include: phone, texting, internet browsing with 3G and Wi-Fi, using non-gaming apps on the go with 3G or Wi-Fi. Is the 3DS a cellphone? No. Can you text on that thing? No. Is the browser decent? No. it's garbage. No capacitive touchscreen. And good luck typing text efficiently into your web browser with that thing. Can it do 3G? No. Only Wi-Fi. What's the non-gaming app selection like compared to the App Store and Android Market? Garbage. It's a dedicated game handheld device. Smartphones are multi-use devices. Of course they are going to be more expensive. Computers are more expensive than game consoles too you know. Does that mean computers suck? Plenty of people have a need for a cellphone just like they have for a computer.

And those $500, 600 smartphones can be bought for a lot less (sometimes at $0 down during promotions) if you sign a 2 or 3 year cell contract. And you're going to need a cellphone anyway. My parents don't have them but they are dinosaurs. They old-school. Technologically dependent Gen Yers like myself are so reliant on technology (just recently I found myself relying on Google Maps on my phone because I was lost. We don't know the maps by heart like the old timers) that we can't imagine surviving without all these new-fangled gadgets. Eventually us humans are going to devolve into complete idiots one day with no real instincts. lol.



"Eventually us humans are going to devolve into complete idiots one day with no real instincts. lol."

that's the only sentence i would agree. But i think the "us" is the user you described. no offense. it's your own logical conclusion. 3 years contract, well... good luck



I don't understand this irrational fear of cell phone contracts. Maybe things work differently over there in the UK. The cancellation fees for cellphone contracts are much more reasonable than they used to be. I bought my phone outright because I wanted greater flexibility. But if you use a lot of voice airtime or lots of mobile data, you're better off getting a phone for like $0 and signing the 3 year contract because the carriers will offer you plans with a better deal (ie. free evenings and weekends) if you commit to 3 years.

Btw they also have entry-level Android smartphones on the market for cheap anyway if you don't want to put down $500 plus on a phone upfront or sign a 2 to 3 year contract. And they can be bought for significantly cheaper than a 3DS, which is just a dedicated gaming handheld that doesn't really do anything decently other than play games.

I think dedicated gaming handhelds still have a place in gaming. But the 3D direction of the system is going to unnecessarily alienate a lot of people (whether it be people who can't see 3D properly, people who get eyestrain/headaches/sick from it, the mass market gamer that wants pick up and play and not home console experiences on the go, jacking up the price of games to $40, parents who are going to get scared about the system will fuck up their kids' eyes because of the warning labels, people who are pissed off about the battery life, people who are pissed off that the D-Pad is on the bottom, people who think $250 is too much for a dedicated gaming handheld, etc.) And the fact that it's called a 3DS is going to make people think that it's just a new DS redesign like the DS Lite and DSi was but with teh 3D.  And I really don't see game developers focusing on making 2D-only experiences for the 3DS when the whole point of the 3DS is the 3D. As a result, 3D is going to be tacked on needlessly worse than Motion Controls were tacked on with Wii games. Just like how Hollywood is in shambles because they tack on 3D to shit and try to sell it off as great.



Soleron said:
o_O.Q said:
Soleron said:

NGP won't be cheaper than 3DS. Sony's strength is their performance, so it will have to be much faster than the PSP and that means having better tech than the 3DS. This will be expensive and also lead to lower battery life than the 3DS, maybe similar to the original PSP.

Sony will be relying on PS3 ports and spinoffs, like the PSP did with the PS2, as I see no change in strategy from the executives' words. So unless you really like the PS3-exclusive lineup at the moment, it probably won't appeal.

The best thing for you would be to wait 2-3 years before buying either.


you can't be sure on that... they already said that they are on track to having a similar battery life to the psp which has a better battery life than the 3ds

They are not magically better system integrators than Nintendo. All of the following can't be true at once:

- Same screen brightness in 2D mode
- Better hardware performance than the 3DS
- Better battery life than the 3DS

Obviously the ngp will require more power but they may be able to implement a better a better or more efficient power system than nintendo... btw "They are not magically better system integrators than Nintendo" no not through magic, of course since sony is an electronics giant i would expect them to have more applitude in electronics than nintendo



@loves2splooge you went on a bit of a tirade, but i agree with what most everything you have said. Especially the Brain Age part. Most people in their right mind are not going to want to plunk down 40 bucks versus the 5-10 they can pay on the smart phones they have or will get. However i think Ninty and even Sony knows this and they will just have those games on their DL stores. Sony has been doing it a lot with their PSN minis and Ninty with their DSi stores, all they need is to have better games and more attention drawn to it. It MIGHT slow down the mobile games