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being gay a choice vs born that way.

It's a lifestyle choice 120 25.53%
 
Your born that way 250 53.19%
 
no opinion 36 7.66%
 
other---for anything I missed 62 13.19%
 
Total:468
Akvod on 27 May 2011

Does it matter? Is love purely dependent on sex? Is a homosexual person's love "fake"? If not, why not allow them to do what they want to? Marry?

While I might understand touchy issues like abortion (because it's contended that there's a third party/individual harmed), or even video game bans (it indirectly harms society), I really don't understand the huge fuss about homosexual marriage/civil rights.

The closest thing I hear is that the legalization of homosexual marriage would increase homosexuality and affect, against the will of the parents, children.



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The Fury on 27 May 2011
Akvod said:

Does it matter? Is love purely dependent on sex? Is a homosexual person's love "fake"? If not, why not allow them to do what they want to? Marry?

While I might understand touchy issues like abortion (because it's contended that there's a third party/individual harmed), or even video game bans (it indirectly harms society), I really don't understand the huge fuss about homosexual marriage/civil rights.

The closest thing I hear is that the legalization of homosexual marriage would increase homosexuality and affect, against the will of the parents, children.

The fuss comes from religion where homosexuality is stated as a big no no in texts. Our society is based on said religions. That the only real reason. The term marriage comes with a lot of religious undertones associated with it which is why some feel religion and marriage are connected.



Hmm, pie.

sapphi_snake on 27 May 2011
The Fury said:
Akvod said:

Does it matter? Is love purely dependent on sex? Is a homosexual person's love "fake"? If not, why not allow them to do what they want to? Marry?

While I might understand touchy issues like abortion (because it's contended that there's a third party/individual harmed), or even video game bans (it indirectly harms society), I really don't understand the huge fuss about homosexual marriage/civil rights.

The closest thing I hear is that the legalization of homosexual marriage would increase homosexuality and affect, against the will of the parents, children.

The fuss comes from religion where homosexuality is stated as a big no no in texts. Our society is based on said religions. That the only real reason. The term marriage comes with a lot of religious undertones associated with it which is why some feel religion and marriage are connected.

But marriage predates any known religion, and has actually been historically not related to religion at all (it's that way in most cultures).



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The Fury on 27 May 2011
sapphi_snake said:
The Fury said:
Akvod said:

Does it matter? Is love purely dependent on sex? Is a homosexual person's love "fake"? If not, why not allow them to do what they want to? Marry?

While I might understand touchy issues like abortion (because it's contended that there's a third party/individual harmed), or even video game bans (it indirectly harms society), I really don't understand the huge fuss about homosexual marriage/civil rights.

The closest thing I hear is that the legalization of homosexual marriage would increase homosexuality and affect, against the will of the parents, children.

The fuss comes from religion where homosexuality is stated as a big no no in texts. Our society is based on said religions. That the only real reason. The term marriage comes with a lot of religious undertones associated with it which is why some feel religion and marriage are connected.

But religion predates any known religion, and has actually been historically not related to religion at all (it's that way in most cultures).

You mean marriage predates religion (right?) but I understand your point. But sadly for many modern cultures, that historical unrelatedness (bad word) has been lost during the dominance of religion. It's the one of the dominant arguements raised when many peole argue against gay marriage claiming it removes Christian values or such. Might also be the reason why we in the UK call it a 'civil partnership' and not a 'marriage' when in all but the name they are the same.



Hmm, pie.

sapphi_snake on 27 May 2011
The Fury said:
sapphi_snake said:
The Fury said:
Akvod said:

Does it matter? Is love purely dependent on sex? Is a homosexual person's love "fake"? If not, why not allow them to do what they want to? Marry?

While I might understand touchy issues like abortion (because it's contended that there's a third party/individual harmed), or even video game bans (it indirectly harms society), I really don't understand the huge fuss about homosexual marriage/civil rights.

The closest thing I hear is that the legalization of homosexual marriage would increase homosexuality and affect, against the will of the parents, children.

The fuss comes from religion where homosexuality is stated as a big no no in texts. Our society is based on said religions. That the only real reason. The term marriage comes with a lot of religious undertones associated with it which is why some feel religion and marriage are connected.

But religion predates any known religion, and has actually been historically not related to religion at all (it's that way in most cultures).

You mean marriage predates religion (right?) but I understand your point. But sadly for many modern cultures, that historical unrelatedness (bad word) has been lost during the dominance of religion. It's the one of the dominant arguements raised when many peole argue against gay marriage claiming it removes Christian values or such. Might also be the reason why we in the UK call it a 'civil partnership' and not a 'marriage' when in all but the name they are the same.

Actually, it only applies to Christianity (and maybe possibly to Judaism, but I'm not sure). Marriage is separated from religion in most cultures.

(Also, sorry for my mistake)



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

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"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

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MrBubbles on 27 May 2011

any real christian wouldnt have a problem with gays, even if they believe it to be a sin.   God never gave them authority to make those choices for other people.  a certain angel didnt feel people should have the right to make such decisions...and hes not in heaven now, is he?



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sapphi_snake on 27 May 2011
MrBubbles said:

any real christian wouldnt have a problem with gays, even if they believe it to be a sin.   God never gave them authority to make those choices for other people.  a certain angel didnt feel people should have the right to make such decisions...and hes not in heaven now, is he?

Who are you talking about?



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

TruckOSaurus on 27 May 2011
sapphi_snake said:
MrBubbles said:

any real christian wouldnt have a problem with gays, even if they believe it to be a sin.   God never gave them authority to make those choices for other people.  a certain angel didnt feel people should have the right to make such decisions...and hes not in heaven now, is he?

Who are you talking about?

Satan



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sapphi_snake on 27 May 2011
TruckOSaurus said:
sapphi_snake said:
MrBubbles said:

any real christian wouldnt have a problem with gays, even if they believe it to be a sin.   God never gave them authority to make those choices for other people.  a certain angel didnt feel people should have the right to make such decisions...and hes not in heaven now, is he?

Who are you talking about?

Satan

Lucifer's fall happened before people came to be. Also, I don't remember Satan ever trying to surpress people's free will.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

Akvod on 27 May 2011
sapphi_snake said:
TruckOSaurus said:
sapphi_snake said:
MrBubbles said:

any real christian wouldnt have a problem with gays, even if they believe it to be a sin.   God never gave them authority to make those choices for other people.  a certain angel didnt feel people should have the right to make such decisions...and hes not in heaven now, is he?

Who are you talking about?

Satan

Lucifer's fall happened before people came to be. Also, I don't remember Satan ever trying to surpress people's free will.

Paradise Lost and the Divine Comedy should be canon. We should also get George Lucas and Steven Spielberg to update the world with more CGI.