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at the moment chromium os is a pile of hurt if you can not stay connected to the cloud, and unfortunatly android OS is being held back by telcos.... Google needs to grow a pair and tell the telcos to STFU and roll out new software unless a real bug that kills networks is found. where is the droid X/droid2  gingerbread roll out, why being held up so xperia can be the first gingerbread phone on verison, and that the x2 is not running an older OS then the X. its bull shit like this that makes me fear for my future of computing

*note im not defending MS and its duchebagery (and its own issues with phone updates), nor apple and its own bull shit, but at least apple told the carriers we are pushing out updates when we damn well are ready to, unfortunatly apple has not been able to free features that should be free on all devices anyway teathering should never cost extra if you have a data plan already

 

 

sorry to vent, just a bit pissed right now, love my droid by the way, its a shame i have to root it and work around so much to do things i should be able to do 2.3 without all the extra steps... netfilx is pretty cool on the droid

also i feel a hybrid of dropbox, android or any OS is the real future, a hybrid localtore auto sync accross shared devices not a purly cloud solution, it sucks big time when the cloud goes down and thats all you have



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goddog said:

at the moment chromium os is a pile of hurt if you can not stay connected to the cloud, and unfortunatly android OS is being held back by telcos.... Google needs to grow a pair and tell the telcos to STFU and roll out new software unless a real bug that kills networks is found. where is the droid X/droid2  gingerbread roll out, why being held up so xperia can be the first gingerbread phone on verison, and that the x2 is not running an older OS then the X. its bull shit like this that makes me fear for my future of computing

*note im not defending MS and its duchebagery (and its own issues with phone updates), nor apple and its own bull shit, but at least apple told the carriers we are pushing out updates when we damn well are ready to, unfortunatly apple has not been able to free features that should be free on all devices anyway teathering should never cost extra if you have a data plan already

 

 

sorry to vent, just a bit pissed right now, love my droid by the way, its a shame i have to root it and work around so much to do things i should be able to do 2.3 without all the extra steps... netfilx is pretty cool on the droid

also i feel a hybrid of dropbox, android or any OS is the real future, a hybrid localtore auto sync accross shared devices not a purly cloud solution, it sucks big time when the cloud goes down and thats all you have

i dont think telcos are holding back on android when 800,000 android phones are activiated an day.



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mchaza said:
goddog said:

at the moment chromium os is a pile of hurt if you can not stay connected to the cloud, and unfortunatly android OS is being held back by telcos.... Google needs to grow a pair and tell the telcos to STFU and roll out new software unless a real bug that kills networks is found. where is the droid X/droid2  gingerbread roll out, why being held up so xperia can be the first gingerbread phone on verison, and that the x2 is not running an older OS then the X. its bull shit like this that makes me fear for my future of computing

*note im not defending MS and its duchebagery (and its own issues with phone updates), nor apple and its own bull shit, but at least apple told the carriers we are pushing out updates when we damn well are ready to, unfortunatly apple has not been able to free features that should be free on all devices anyway teathering should never cost extra if you have a data plan already

 

 

sorry to vent, just a bit pissed right now, love my droid by the way, its a shame i have to root it and work around so much to do things i should be able to do 2.3 without all the extra steps... netfilx is pretty cool on the droid

also i feel a hybrid of dropbox, android or any OS is the real future, a hybrid localtore auto sync accross shared devices not a purly cloud solution, it sucks big time when the cloud goes down and thats all you have

i dont think telcos are holding back on android when 800,000 android phones are activiated an day.

they most certainly are holding back OS updates and features that are stock, and should come with each phone they fear commoditization of the service they provide not realizing its already happened and cling desperately to extra service charges, and use artificial mechanisms to limit device functionality or deny upgrades to software in a timely manner.
yes they are profitable for them, i can not deny that, but they still gimp and inhibit many devices full functionality in a manner google should not allow, google may take time to throw its full weight around, and i can understand waiting to force the issue until the telcos are dependent on them, but if google does not force the issue it will be one of the largest failings ever on the side of tech



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goddog said:
mchaza said:
goddog said:

at the moment chromium os is a pile of hurt if you can not stay connected to the cloud, and unfortunatly android OS is being held back by telcos.... Google needs to grow a pair and tell the telcos to STFU and roll out new software unless a real bug that kills networks is found. where is the droid X/droid2  gingerbread roll out, why being held up so xperia can be the first gingerbread phone on verison, and that the x2 is not running an older OS then the X. its bull shit like this that makes me fear for my future of computing

*note im not defending MS and its duchebagery (and its own issues with phone updates), nor apple and its own bull shit, but at least apple told the carriers we are pushing out updates when we damn well are ready to, unfortunatly apple has not been able to free features that should be free on all devices anyway teathering should never cost extra if you have a data plan already

 

 

sorry to vent, just a bit pissed right now, love my droid by the way, its a shame i have to root it and work around so much to do things i should be able to do 2.3 without all the extra steps... netfilx is pretty cool on the droid

also i feel a hybrid of dropbox, android or any OS is the real future, a hybrid localtore auto sync accross shared devices not a purly cloud solution, it sucks big time when the cloud goes down and thats all you have

i dont think telcos are holding back on android when 800,000 android phones are activiated an day.

they most certainly are holding back OS updates and features that are stock, and should come with each phone they fear commoditization of the service they provide not realizing its already happened and cling desperately to extra service charges, and use artificial mechanisms to limit device functionality or deny upgrades to software in a timely manner.
yes they are profitable for them, i can not deny that, but they still gimp and inhibit many devices full functionality in a manner google should not allow, google may take time to throw its full weight around, and i can understand waiting to force the issue until the telcos are dependent on them, but if google does not force the issue it will be one of the largest failings ever on the side of tech


oh now i get what you mean. well dont think telco's can control updates, when google can simply release them over the market. The telcos cant just stop selling android when there are basically 2 types of phones now android or ios since prepaid are all andorid now (there is windows phone but yea). So it could be google holding back the updates because they get there cut from every phone sold. Then you have the hardware manufactures who probably dont want there phones lasting more than 2 years Max, even 1 year.



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Actually I think Google's statement was about all local OS's. Basically he wants you to put all you crap in the cloud and trust them. Just like Onlive and such.



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NJ5 said:

Actually I think Google's statement was about all local OS's. Basically he wants you to put all you crap in the cloud and trust them. Just like Onlive and such.


which is currently viable for low impact computing like web browsing email and word processing and even then only in the parts of the world that have cheap, reliable, fast internet access which is not most of the world.



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I think Microsoft is a better master than Google personally. You give up a lot more with 'free' than you do with a $50 OEM license.

Yeah, pretty much this. Win 7 has been amazing for me and I've never even used Chrome OS.

Well Microsoft just wants your money. Google wants to own your online identity and sell it to various companies. The more information you give them the more you're worth to the people they sell it to essentially. Since you're a paying customer Microsoft has an incentive to protect your privacy whereas with Google other third parties are the customers so they don't have the same incentive to serve your best interests.

Im not saying that Microsoft is good, but I think in many cases compared to Google it is the lesser of two evils and we need both in order to prevent the excesses of the other.

The scary part is that your words are still playing it soft.  Read the following initially wonderful article, everyone, to see where it leads and then tell us what it honestly sounds like:  

 

 

Yep... pretty much this.

The funny thing is everyone says Google is free but noone tells you what you give up in order to access their services. People should ask themselves 'what does the other party get out of this arrangement?'. With Microsoft it's pretty clear, you give them money. With Google that answer is probably best described as 'it depends' and it isn't like you can avoid Google like you can with Microsoft.

I won't ever give all my data to Google, but this doesn't mean that I'll put the access to them in MS' hands using  its proprietary formats and protocols or proprietary non-standard modifications of standard ones ever again. Using a cloud, not necessarily managed either by Google or MS, to be able to access a selection of my data from everywhere I am sounds interesting, though.

Anyway, worrying signals about Google must never make us forget that MS would still like to close us in its proprietary world if only it could.



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