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Anyone think PSN outage influenced 3DS Shop delay?

Yes it probably did 24 34.29%
 
No , Nintendo is just slow 46 65.71%
 
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I remember reading about the delay of the 3DS shop alittle while ago and I thought for a second the news of the delay came so close to the news from Sony. Now yes I know the Shop was supposed to launch this month so any delay would have been announced now anyways.

But I couldn't help but wonder if Nintendo is delaying the shop and online network for 3DS till they can boost security and ensure hackers don't crack the 3DS network. Sony's situation is no doubt being followed very closely by Nintendo's higher ups.

I wouldn't be suprised if Nintendo is taking second looks at its security and learning from Sony's mistakes to make the 3DS network more secure than Sony's. I wouldn't be suprised if Sony's recent troubles influenced Nintendo's release plans.

Also Nintendo would rather double up security and delay the network then launch the network and have it hacked and brought down by those low life cyber terrorists!

What do you think, coincidence or is Nintendo shoring up its security measures?



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It's likely, I mean MS uped their secruity when it happened too, it's pretty obvious everyone in the buisness was more or less at Sony's level of security and got worried knowing that it could happen to them 



That's certainly one of the first things that crossed my mind. PSN outage is a big setback for Sony and I'm sure Nintendo don't want the same thing to happen to them.



It's only a 1 week delay. I have a feeling it has more to do with E3 than anything else.



 

 

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Bad options in the poll, Joe.  The 1 week delay has not a nothing to do with the PSN issues and everything to do with using the grand international stage of E3 as the launching pad.

Keep this in mind.  I've been told by Nintendo that the 3DS and Project Cafe will have some form of interface capabilities.  We already know that Nintendo will unveil Project Cafe at their E3 Media Conference.  Now we learn that they plan to unleash the big firmware update on the exact same day as their E3 Media Conference.  You do the math.   PSN casue the delay, Nintendo just slow or a brilliant usage of the biggest stage in video games to announce and show the communication capabilities between 3DS and Project Cafe?



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In my opinion: No.

Nintendo always planned to launch e-shop at the end of May even before the PSN disaster and that short delay surely is only because of marketing reasons, so everybody would talk about it at E3.



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Viper1 said:

Wick is 100% correct.

Bad options in the poll, Joe.  The 1 week delay has not a nothing to do with the PSN issues and everything to do with using the grand international stage of E3 as the launching pad.

Keep this in mind.  I've been told by Nintendo that the 3DS and Project Cafe will have some form of interface capabilities.  We already know that Nintendo will unveil Project Cafe at their E3 Media Conference.  Now we learn that they plan to unleash the big firmware update on the exact same day as their E3 Media Conference.  You do the math.   PSN casue the delay, Nintendo just slow or a brilliant usage of the biggest stage in video games to announce and show the communication capabilities between 3DS and Project Cafe?


Well Nintendo delaying to E3 is sort of odd. You would have thought Nintendo would have made the delay announcement at the same time as their press conference date announcement. Though I think E3 is definatly a strategic decision I still think the PSN outing might have influenced the delay!

Notice I said influence and not caused. But your right I should have added the E3 issue into the poll. However I was more asking if people think Nintendo was infleunced by the PSN crash and not really a poll asking people why their was a delay.

My bad, Viper do you think Nintendo has been upgrading its security on 3DS Shop since the PSN crash? I'm sure Nintendo has noticed and it is probably causing Nintendo to upgrade its security. I assume from your response that you don't think it is playing any role in the delay, but do you think Nintendo's upping the anti on its security now that PSN crashed?



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Joelcool7 said:

My bad, Viper do you think Nintendo has been upgrading its security on 3DS Shop since the PSN crash? I'm sure Nintendo has noticed and it is probably causing Nintendo to upgrade its security. I assume from your response that you don't think it is playing any role in the delay, but do you think Nintendo's upping the anti on its security now that PSN crashed?

I don't think the PSN hacks had either any influence on the announcement delay or put pressure on Nintendo to enhance sucurity.

If you recall, making the system as secure as possible was one of the goals and even THQ came out and stated the system security was so advanced they couldn't speak of it in common terms.  More likely Nintendo looked at the PSN hacks and felt vindicated in their complex security intentions.  Piracy on the DS was actually one of the leading reasons the 3DS is released at all so as you can imagine, security took a very high priority from the start for the 3DS.  PSN problems would not be looked upon as a danger they need to protect from but rather a situation that validates the extra security efforts they've already subscribed to.



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Viper1 said:
Joelcool7 said:

My bad, Viper do you think Nintendo has been upgrading its security on 3DS Shop since the PSN crash? I'm sure Nintendo has noticed and it is probably causing Nintendo to upgrade its security. I assume from your response that you don't think it is playing any role in the delay, but do you think Nintendo's upping the anti on its security now that PSN crashed?

I don't think the PSN hacks had either any influence on the announcement delay or put pressure on Nintendo to enhance sucurity.

If you recall, making the system as secure as possible was one of the goals and even THQ came out and stated the system security was so advanced they couldn't speak of it in common terms.  More likely Nintendo looked at the PSN hacks and felt vindicated in their complex security intentions.  Piracy on the DS was actually one of the leading reasons the 3DS is released at all so as you can imagine, security took a very high priority from the start for the 3DS.  PSN problems would not be looked upon as a danger they need to protect from but rather a situation that validates the extra security efforts they've already subscribed to.


Yah I guess when you put it that way. However Nintendo's main focus was on hardware and anti-piracy protection. I'm talking the Nintendo network, to my knowledge its never been hacked but I never hear about it and what Nintendo is doing to protect it. Microsoft commented about Live's security but Nintendo hasn't made a comment about their networks security.

As you say Nintendo has focused on software protection. But look at the PS3 it had some of the best software and hardware protection to date. It took like 4 years to jail break and Sony fixed that pretty fast. Yet the PlayStation Network was hacked.

Not to say your wrong, the security for software is supposed to be the best. Piracy shouldn't be an issue. However the Nintendo online Network is an entirely seperate entity. Just because the console isn't easily hacked doesn't mean the network isn't.

I think that Nintendo might be influenced by the PSN crash. Mainly because the network hasn't been Nintendo's strongest feature.

But its cool to hear your opinion. Nintendo seems to be doing a good job as hackers have yet to down their network or websites!



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Joelcool7 said:


Yah I guess when you put it that way. However Nintendo's main focus was on hardware and anti-piracy protection. I'm talking the Nintendo network, to my knowledge its never been hacked but I never hear about it and what Nintendo is doing to protect it. Microsoft commented about Live's security but Nintendo hasn't made a comment about their networks security.

As you say Nintendo has focused on software protection. But look at the PS3 it had some of the best software and hardware protection to date. It took like 4 years to jail break and Sony fixed that pretty fast. Yet the PlayStation Network was hacked.

Not to say your wrong, the security for software is supposed to be the best. Piracy shouldn't be an issue. However the Nintendo online Network is an entirely seperate entity. Just because the console isn't easily hacked doesn't mean the network isn't.

I think that Nintendo might be influenced by the PSN crash. Mainly because the network hasn't been Nintendo's strongest feature.

But its cool to hear your opinion. Nintendo seems to be doing a good job as pirates have yet to down their network or websites!

PS3's hardware problem was that while all the security was great, they failed at just 1 thing.  Their random number sytem used to prevent reverse engineering calculations wasn't actually random.  It was the same number every time.  Knowing that variable made all the other equations easy.  Had that number been random, they'd still be trying to hack it.

The network issue seems to be an outdated version of Apache server.  One known to be vulnerable to DDoS attacks and oither exploits that was fixed almost 7 months ago and Sony failed to update it (even though they were warned of the attacks back in Feb).  It is also believed that they allowed dev units unrestrained access to certain datatables which is a security 101 no-no.   Simply keeping software up to date and utilizing proper access hierarchies or data sandboxing would have prevented their problem.   It wasn't the sophistication of their network or the strength of the security measures but the lack of common security policy and structure that screwed them up.  

So long as Nintendo's network (which will likely be operated by a 3rd party anyway and won't be fully in house) is manged by personnel with common sense, they'll do OK.

I know 78% of all statistics are made up on the spot but I'd guess that probably 95% of all security breaches are the result of carelessness on the part of the network team.



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