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Fight with the sword die by the sword ;)

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Dodece said:

They are innocent until proven guilty, and punishment by proxy is never justified. Now if you are going to argue otherwise then I will say this. You deserved to have had your data stolen in the first place. This is guilt by association, and it is never just or right. Even if some in a group behave badly that doesn't mean that the entire group deserves to be punished. You want a good reason why this is just plain wrong. I can lay some examples out for you the holocaust, concentration camps, feuds, and terrorist bombings.

Do not feed into a cycle this is going to cause the violence to escalate, and is going to justify dehumanization of victims. The only thing this story tells me is that the number of victims is increasing. Oh and if this isn't all just staged to garner some sympathy or to distract people. Those who were outed are probably going to suspect that this supposed rat is just a thug for hire. Which means they are only going to have one more reason to go after Sony, and will justify further acts on their part. They just might make the same leap that people are making here. They are going to say Sony is behind this whole thing.

This wasn't justice, and it isn't going to make things better.

Are you for real? lmao



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It's probably similar farcical crap to that "Anon civil War" thread, where they just post a bunch of proxy IPs (like that guy who shared Angela Merkel's personal IP)

It's not this easy to do this.



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Dodece said:

They are innocent until proven guilty, and punishment by proxy is never justified. Now if you are going to argue otherwise then I will say this. You deserved to have had your data stolen in the first place. This is guilt by association, and it is never just or right. Even if some in a group behave badly that doesn't mean that the entire group deserves to be punished. You want a good reason why this is just plain wrong. I can lay some examples out for you the holocaust, concentration camps, feuds, and terrorist bombings.

Do not feed into a cycle this is going to cause the violence to escalate, and is going to justify dehumanization of victims. The only thing this story tells me is that the number of victims is increasing. Oh and if this isn't all just staged to garner some sympathy or to distract people. Those who were outed are probably going to suspect that this supposed rat is just a thug for hire. Which means they are only going to have one more reason to go after Sony, and will justify further acts on their part. They just might make the same leap that people are making here. They are going to say Sony is behind this whole thing.

This wasn't justice, and it isn't going to make things better.

Of course it will, these people were hiding from the law now they can't and now they can actually be trialed how is that not better? Besides they already admitted to dozens of crimes even if stealing the info isn't one of them



GameBoss01 said:
NJ5 said:
Fufinu said:

Now all we need are their credit card details.


Interesting. Please explain why, have those people been proven guilty of hacking Sony and getting personal data?


Well, the fact that the info from PSn was stolen during their attack on the network and that ANYONE who claims to be ANONYMOUS IS ANONYMOUS, makes 'em guilty to me.

 

Even if none of the actual member did it, but they softened the security of PSN and let the other Hackers slip by undetected. 

I could explain, but I think it's obvious why your post is ridiculous.



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badgenome said:


Completely off topic. Why does this show features a mascot that looks like a giant condom?

to warn parents. "this is what awaits you!...unless"



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NJ5 said:
Fufinu said:

Now all we need are their credit card detail

Interesting. Please explain why, have those people been proven guilty of hacking Sony and getting personal data?


Proven guilty? This isn't cyberjustice, it's cyber warfare. In war, you don't try enemy soldiers, you kill them. Anon is a group of hackers, and sometimes, god forbid, bad things happen to bad people.



theprof00 said:

Pretty interesting article, but there are a lot of factual inaccuracies along with it. For one, Anon is known for it's professionalism "on the job" so to speak. Having a couple members go rogue and hack into Sony, and then turn on Anon, and every dramatic, high-school-esque event that's followed....well, it just reeks of forgery.

Now, I'm not saying Anon is innocent. Far from that. However, the reality is all the more sinister. Sony in 2005 had DRM on their music CDs. Sony has become this empire of lies and failures and it shows here. Sony most likely hired Anonymous to "hack" into their own servers and leave a silly little note like "Anon wuz here". It would be a big scare and everyone would phreak. Then, they could go offline for a month, saving nearly a bajillion yen, and then come back online with a few new online games simultaneously released and a subscription system following in December fresh on teh heels of "higher security".

See, Sony made a good case about the hackers, and correctly placed it as anon, but the real question is "can we trust a company that created mini-discs". No, we cannot. I only hope this goes to show the rest of you that Sony is ALWAYS wrong, and anytime you hear news of any kind, Sony is usually to blame.

This has to be the biggest paragraph of bullshit I have ever read.

What is it with everybody saying "SONY is teh evilz and wantz our moniez!".

Are you stupid or something? SONY will not bring in a subscription, everybody knows that. The PSN downtime has cost SONY far more than it has "saves", how the fuck did you come to the conclusion that SONY shut it down to make money? And how exactly are SONY trying to rape us of every penny they have when they were selling the PS3 at a monumental loss? When I think of greedy money grabbing companies, SONY is one of the last to come to mind.

SONY have their fair share of fuck ups, they might be great, but they do fuck up. I don't know how the hell you came to the conclusion that SONY would use this incident to make money, use your brain.



brendude13 said:
theprof00 said:

Pretty interesting article, but there are a lot of factual inaccuracies along with it. For one, Anon is known for it's professionalism "on the job" so to speak. Having a couple members go rogue and hack into Sony, and then turn on Anon, and every dramatic, high-school-esque event that's followed....well, it just reeks of forgery.

Now, I'm not saying Anon is innocent. Far from that. However, the reality is all the more sinister. Sony in 2005 had DRM on their music CDs. Sony has become this empire of lies and failures and it shows here. Sony most likely hired Anonymous to "hack" into their own servers and leave a silly little note like "Anon wuz here". It would be a big scare and everyone would phreak. Then, they could go offline for a month, saving nearly a bajillion yen, and then come back online with a few new online games simultaneously released and a subscription system following in December fresh on teh heels of "higher security".

See, Sony made a good case about the hackers, and correctly placed it as anon, but the real question is "can we trust a company that created mini-discs". No, we cannot. I only hope this goes to show the rest of you that Sony is ALWAYS wrong, and anytime you hear news of any kind, Sony is usually to blame.

This has to be the biggest paragraph of bullshit I have ever read.

What is it with everybody saying "SONY is teh evil and wantz our moniez!".

Are you stupid or something? SONY will not bring in a subscription, everybody knows that. The PSN downtime has cost SONY so much, how the fuck did you come to the conclusion that SONY shut it down to make money? And why are SONY trying to rape us of every penny they have when they were selling the PS3 at a monumental loss? And when I think of greedy money grabbing companies, SONY is one of the last to come to mind.

SONY have their fair share of fuck ups, they might be great, but they do fuck up. I don't know how the hell you came to the conclusion that SONY would use this incident to make money, use your brain.

someone's sarcasm detector is broken..



theprof00 said:
brendude13 said:
theprof00 said:

Pretty interesting article, but there are a lot of factual inaccuracies along with it. For one, Anon is known for it's professionalism "on the job" so to speak. Having a couple members go rogue and hack into Sony, and then turn on Anon, and every dramatic, high-school-esque event that's followed....well, it just reeks of forgery.

Now, I'm not saying Anon is innocent. Far from that. However, the reality is all the more sinister. Sony in 2005 had DRM on their music CDs. Sony has become this empire of lies and failures and it shows here. Sony most likely hired Anonymous to "hack" into their own servers and leave a silly little note like "Anon wuz here". It would be a big scare and everyone would phreak. Then, they could go offline for a month, saving nearly a bajillion yen, and then come back online with a few new online games simultaneously released and a subscription system following in December fresh on teh heels of "higher security".

See, Sony made a good case about the hackers, and correctly placed it as anon, but the real question is "can we trust a company that created mini-discs". No, we cannot. I only hope this goes to show the rest of you that Sony is ALWAYS wrong, and anytime you hear news of any kind, Sony is usually to blame.

This has to be the biggest paragraph of bullshit I have ever read.

What is it with everybody saying "SONY is teh evil and wantz our moniez!".

Are you stupid or something? SONY will not bring in a subscription, everybody knows that. The PSN downtime has cost SONY so much, how the fuck did you come to the conclusion that SONY shut it down to make money? And why are SONY trying to rape us of every penny they have when they were selling the PS3 at a monumental loss? And when I think of greedy money grabbing companies, SONY is one of the last to come to mind.

SONY have their fair share of fuck ups, they might be great, but they do fuck up. I don't know how the hell you came to the conclusion that SONY would use this incident to make money, use your brain.

someone's sarcasm detector is broken..

The problem is what you claimed really isn't unbelieavable, except that if Sony wanted to move forward into a Pay-only PSN, they would just do it and not set up an elaborate scheme to justify it.



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