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If someone wants to play games online with their other people, it doesn't make them friendless or pathetic. Everyone has different reasons for buying their system. If online play is one of the reasons, it doesn't make them any less a person.



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kurasakiichimaru said:
Hyruken said:
psrock said:
Hyruken said:

I think people underestimate how easy it is for people to move to a different format or different edition. We live in an age where something you buy in the media will have another version of it within a few months. Standard edition turns into game of the year edition, films turn into extended editions or whatever. There is obviously a huge market for those things or they would not be released. If they can get people to buy the same item again with a few mins extra footage or a new add-on then why wouldn't people buy it on a different format? I think for most normal people the content is what interests you, not the thing that plays that content.


That's why Mass Effect PS3 sold so much. 

It's not easy to jump ship because if that were true, the 360 would be in third place right now when we spent two years talking about how crappy their hardware was, but people stood by it and bought multiple versions. 

Not quite sure why you mentioned Mass Effect on PS3? There are loads of examples of products coming out first on one format and then selling more on a different one later.

I had rrod on my first 360. They replaced it in a week. If they took 6 weeks then i'd have asked for my money back. The difference with the rrod is that it sucks if you are the one affected by it. All those that don't have it are not affected and thus why would they be talking about how crappy their hardware was? With the PSN issue it is different as everyone has it and will continue to have it. It isn't as simple as ringing them up and they fix it for you. As i said before i think the longer it goes on the more this will happen. Patience only lasts so long.

Is my PS3 broken? No.

Can I not play my PS3 on single player? No.

Is my life that pathetic that I have no friends to call to play with or against? No.

Is PSN a paid service? No

Do I believe in the word called impossible? No.

Will the haters stop hating? Nope.


Can I not wait for a free service to return? No.

 

There you go.. LOL

People's defense for a corporation goes too far when they resort to insulting people who have a genuine reason to be angry that a large part of their purchase no longer works.  People are not pathetic simply because they prefer playing multiplayer games.

You could just as stupidly say that the only people who prefer single player games are losers with no friends with which to play online games with.  It's ridiculous.

Personally I almost never play any games online so the outage hasn't affected me but if for example there was an issue with the PS3 software that prevented it from playing Blu-ray movies and I didn't have much money you could bet that at this point I would be selling it and getting a stand alone player since I primarily use it for that purpose.



Buy maybe these people who switch from the PS3 to the 360 are actually better off.  Anectodally I did read that according to one retailer, the switch was mainly due to "hardcore online shooter" gamers.  And we know what the 360 excels best in, SHOOTERS.  So what the prob here?



Hackers are poor nerds who don't wash.

I love Sony and my PSP.

Just sayin'.



It's just that simple.

This outage will determine who the TRUE Sony loyal are.

No self-respecting consumer would quit on their PS3 in this situation. You'd have to pay me $1200 to put it back on a Gamestop shelf.



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i like how you think = ) i have both and i like xbox more just because of the online and gears of war



                          

SaviorX said:

This outage will determine who the TRUE Sony loyal are.

No self-respecting consumer would quit on their PS3 in this situation. You'd have to pay me $1200 to put it back on a Gamestop shelf.


Why do you need to be loyal to Sony? I don't really see why anyone has to be loyal to any one corporation. Most people here do not seem to be gamers first, but a company loyalist. That seems to be the main problem here.

That is a very weird comment. Self-repecting consumer? What does that have to do with PS3?

Some of these comments seem to take this stuff way too personal. If someone wants to trade in their PS3 for a 360, that is their choice.



kurasakiichimaru said:
Reasonable said:

Bound to happen.  Question is are we talking a volume of units enough to matter much?  I'd guess probably not.

If 1000 people a week more than usual were swapping PS3s for 360s that would be irrelivent unless it was a sustained effect given in the UK alone we're talking about a tiny fraction of much larger install bases.

Really, for this to be a worry you'd need to be looking at many thousands swapping a week - and that seems very unlikly to be the case.


Exactly, percentage is very misleading.


The obvious analogy is the 360 sales in Japan.  During Golden Week it got a 200% ish jump from around 2000 to 4000 units - a great percentage jump but in unit terms actually irrelevant.

I'm almost certain if we could see the unit values for PS3 to 360 trade ins we'd see the same thing.  Great percentage, irrelevant in unit terms.

Not that it won't be happing, PS3 is bound to see a dip in HW/SW sales for a while and the 360 will see a mild boost (maybe too mild to register at a total unit level) but its very probable that at a unit level we're only talking some thousands of units which unless it's sustained doesn't matter.



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

daroamer said:
kurasakiichimaru said:
Hyruken said:
psrock said:
Hyruken said:

I think people underestimate how easy it is for people to move to a different format or different edition. We live in an age where something you buy in the media will have another version of it within a few months. Standard edition turns into game of the year edition, films turn into extended editions or whatever. There is obviously a huge market for those things or they would not be released. If they can get people to buy the same item again with a few mins extra footage or a new add-on then why wouldn't people buy it on a different format? I think for most normal people the content is what interests you, not the thing that plays that content.


That's why Mass Effect PS3 sold so much. 

It's not easy to jump ship because if that were true, the 360 would be in third place right now when we spent two years talking about how crappy their hardware was, but people stood by it and bought multiple versions. 

Not quite sure why you mentioned Mass Effect on PS3? There are loads of examples of products coming out first on one format and then selling more on a different one later.

I had rrod on my first 360. They replaced it in a week. If they took 6 weeks then i'd have asked for my money back. The difference with the rrod is that it sucks if you are the one affected by it. All those that don't have it are not affected and thus why would they be talking about how crappy their hardware was? With the PSN issue it is different as everyone has it and will continue to have it. It isn't as simple as ringing them up and they fix it for you. As i said before i think the longer it goes on the more this will happen. Patience only lasts so long.

Is my PS3 broken? No.

Can I not play my PS3 on single player? No.

Is my life that pathetic that I have no friends to call to play with or against? No.

Is PSN a paid service? No

Do I believe in the word called impossible? No.

Will the haters stop hating? Nope.


Can I not wait for a free service to return? No.

 

There you go.. LOL

People's defense for a corporation goes too far when they resort to insulting people who have a genuine reason to be angry that a large part of their purchase no longer works.  People are not pathetic simply because they prefer playing multiplayer games.

You could just as stupidly say that the only people who prefer single player games are losers with no friends with which to play online games with.  It's ridiculous.

Personally I almost never play any games online so the outage hasn't affected me but if for example there was an issue with the PS3 software that prevented it from playing Blu-ray movies and I didn't have much money you could bet that at this point I would be selling it and getting a stand alone player since I primarily use it for that purpose.

Selling a system and abandoning the games purchased because of a disrupted free service for another system and along with it, a paid service that without being a troll, we know that free service would one day return isn't stupid and pathetic? yeah right. I might as well have gone and sell my damaged car caused by some stupid jerk never minding the repairs or insurances or damage fees and just go off buy a new car cause I just can't wait to drive. Like I can't even use my legs to walk or ride a taxi, bus, subway train or anything.

 

And lol @ you thinking I'm defending Sony ALL THE TIME. I have said some shitty things about them in the past. And sorry to offend anyone who loves online gaming but that's just me. I can live without it, so if you really wanna sell your PS3 for another system with ongoing online service. Go ahead, but it will not stop me from thinking you're stupid.



What will really kill Sony is if they get PSN in within 24hr it crashes again. Ouch!! Sony better make sure it doubley secure when they get it back up. Probably won't happen for another week I bet.



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