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pitzy272 on 12 May 2011
awesomeX10 said:

Remedy isn't exactly talented, alan wake was a B game at best and 7 years for a B game a B linear game is just riddicules so I'm not expecting their next game to be better I'm half expecting it to be worse 


You gotta be cautious saying crap like that. There are people who really like Alan Wake and Remedy (although I'm not one of them bc I've never played it), so your comment will frustrate some people. At least say imo or something.



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Potable_Toe on 12 May 2011
CGI-Quality said:
awesomeX10 said:

Remedy isn't exactly talented, alan wake was a B game at best and 7 years for a B game a B linear game is just riddicules so I'm not expecting their next game to be better I'm half expecting it to be worse 

Alan Wake's script was in motion in late 2004, full development began in 2005, & it released in 2010. So not 7 years. Also, they go beyond Alan Wake (even though it was just fine in my view), with IPs like Max Payne.

With their current knowledge and the foundation Wake laid, I see nothing but improvement from here on out.

Plus don't forget they also developed a new engine for Alan Wake too, so that time wasn't just spent on the game itself.

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As far as it going multiplatform I thought that they had already commented on that saying that at the very most it would end up on PC too but that that was down to if Microsoft wanted it to or not?



awesomeX10 on 12 May 2011
pitzy272 said:
awesomeX10 said:

Remedy isn't exactly talented, alan wake was a B game at best and 7 years for a B game a B linear game is just riddicules so I'm not expecting their next game to be better I'm half expecting it to be worse 


You gotta be cautious saying crap like that. There are people who really like Alan Wake and Remedy (although I'm not one of them bc I've never played it), so your comment will frustrate some people. At least say imo or something.

In my opinion it's less then a B game though I'm just trying to be objective



awesomeX10 on 12 May 2011
CGI-Quality said:
awesomeX10 said:

Remedy isn't exactly talented, alan wake was a B game at best and 7 years for a B game a B linear game is just riddicules so I'm not expecting their next game to be better I'm half expecting it to be worse 

Alan Wake's script was in motion in late 2004, full development began in 2005, & it released in 2010. So not 7 years. Also, they go beyond Alan Wake (even though it was just fine in my view), with IPs like Max Payne.

With their current knowledge and the foundation Wake laid, I see nothing but improvement from here on out.

script/full development =/= all of development, and I think 6 years is even more riddicules for a video game script, hell anything, unless it's just some guy writting a book in their spare time



awesomeX10 on 12 May 2011
CGI-Quality said:
awesomeX10 said:
CGI-Quality said:
awesomeX10 said:

Remedy isn't exactly talented, alan wake was a B game at best and 7 years for a B game a B linear game is just riddicules so I'm not expecting their next game to be better I'm half expecting it to be worse 

Alan Wake's script was in motion in late 2004, full development began in 2005, & it released in 2010. So not 7 years. Also, they go beyond Alan Wake (even though it was just fine in my view), with IPs like Max Payne.

With their current knowledge and the foundation Wake laid, I see nothing but improvement from here on out.

script/full development =/= all of development, and I think 6 years is even more riddicules for a video game script, hell anything, unless it's just some guy writting a book in their spare time

Fair enough. Then can you show me where it states that the game went into complete development in 2003 (that would make 7 years)?

seven years is in the article posted at the start of the thread... did you read it?



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awesomeX10 on 12 May 2011
CGI-Quality said:
awesomeX10 said:
CGI-Quality said:
awesomeX10 said:
CGI-Quality said:
awesomeX10 said:

Remedy isn't exactly talented, alan wake was a B game at best and 7 years for a B game a B linear game is just riddicules so I'm not expecting their next game to be better I'm half expecting it to be worse 

Alan Wake's script was in motion in late 2004, full development began in 2005, & it released in 2010. So not 7 years. Also, they go beyond Alan Wake (even though it was just fine in my view), with IPs like Max Payne.

With their current knowledge and the foundation Wake laid, I see nothing but improvement from here on out.

script/full development =/= all of development, and I think 6 years is even more riddicules for a video game script, hell anything, unless it's just some guy writting a book in their spare time

Fair enough. Then can you show me where it states that the game went into complete development in 2003 (that would make 7 years)?

seven years in the in the article posted at the start of the thread... did you read it?

I edited the original post. Now answer me something, where does it say it took 6 years to do the entire script?

Who's talking about the script besides you, who is the one that said 6 years for the script... it's in the quote boxes on this post here I'll underline it and it's still 7 years in the article linked...



awesomeX10 on 12 May 2011
CGI-Quality said:
awesomeX10 said:
CGI-Quality said:

I edited the original post. Now answer me something, where does it say it took 6 years to do the entire script?

Who's talking about the script besides you, who is the one that said 6 years for the script... it's in the quote boxes on this post here I'll underline it 

Um...

awesomeX10 said:
script/full development =/= all of development, and I think 6 years is even more riddicules for a video game script, hell anything, unless it's just some guy writting a book in their spare time.

I said the script was being worked on in 2004, not that it took 6 years to create the entire thing.

So how long did it take did they finish it years before launch? and what does the script have to do with anything again the game still took 7 years



awesomeX10 on 12 May 2011
CGI-Quality said:
awesomeX10 said:

So how long did it take did they finish it years before launch? and what does the script have to do with anything again the game still took 7 years

Well, if you read the actual article, you'd realize that the entire dev time is technically split in two, as it was originally intedned to be on more than one system and had completely different game play elements at one point. The dev time makes sense.

I don't personally see the big deal on dev time. I'm only curious as to why it bugs you so much.

Dev time doesn't bother me, they just won't be getting that much time this time around, so the game is likely to be worse 



pitzy272 on 12 May 2011
awesomeX10 said:
pitzy272 said:
awesomeX10 said:

Remedy isn't exactly talented, alan wake was a B game at best and 7 years for a B game a B linear game is just riddicules so I'm not expecting their next game to be better I'm half expecting it to be worse 


You gotta be cautious saying crap like that. There are people who really like Alan Wake and Remedy (although I'm not one of them bc I've never played it), so your comment will frustrate some people. At least say imo or something.

In my opinion it's less then a B game though I'm just trying to be objective

I gotcha. Like I said, I wasn't upset, but I know some people really like the game/developer and thought they may take your msg the wrong way. That's why I said use imo/in my opinion. But it's no biggie, I was just saying.



MonstaMack on 12 May 2011

Remedy is very talented don't diss them.

Max Payne 1 and 2 are both amazing games as is Alan Wake. I'm ok waiting on them every four years for a game, because everything they have made in recent years has been pure quality.

When things get rushed from a great company you get games like Dragon Age 2, I love Bioware to though!



It's just that simple.