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Firstly off the bat: I hate Political Correctness, I hate it, i hate the fact that its designed purely to makes us resent each other then hate us. I dont see taking away one group of people something they love and enjoy for the sake of another group is only going to cause hate and resentment far greater than what was orginally before political correctness came in. 

Now my point of reference isn't going to be just Black v white skin, but instead i will also as well focus something that has been clearly going on in my Home country of australia which is Christianity v Other religions. 

Political correctness is something that is meant to breakdown the differences so no group of people feel left out or in any ways discrimated. But in reallity all this is doing is throwing discrimations back and forth, one group clebrates Christmas each year and has for the many many years in past building up traditions, then an new reglious group comes into the society, now its an good fair society, that group can pacitipate in christmas or can choose to not care and celebrate there own events when they come up. 

But no, its consided unfair in an free society where you if your not all in on the act then No one should be, so our governements and stupid people in power are slowly breaking down christmas into an "holiday event", removing it from the public places such as schools, streets etc, all to not piss up the newly arriving Muslim population. What i dont get is why this didn't happen when the Jews came, or the masses of people who dont follow christianity have this all removed before. Nope it seems only right to turn up the heat on an already hatered boiling up on both sides. 

I can rant on forever on this topic but i will move on as well to the much more global "Skin colour debate". Well its evident in the US and in many countries that society has been so overloaded with so much policitcal correctness in this department that "racism" that its getting out of hand. 

i dont see how it is Wrong for when decribing someone you get crap like this for example:

person 1: "So what did those 2 guys look like again", person 2: "oh the first one was an small, white guy with brown hair, while the second was an tall, black guy with black hair", person 1 "whoa racist there, ", person 2"what why?", person 1"you called him black", person 2"yea because the colour of his skin is black", person 1: "yea your racists". 

That is clearly isn't racist, what that seems to be going on alot lately which seems out of wack and makes no sense. 

well i could go on and on, but i rather stop now before i rant on and make people get me banned because i didn't include 12 different sides of this argument and make it as politically correct as possible. 

 



Of Course That's Just My Opinion, I Could Be Wrong

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I know how you feel.... Sadly their is not much you can do, as an good australian you just should adept to the newcomers :)....If you don't you are an racist!!



 

Well I agree you with this whole, don't let your religious beliefs offend people. I mean can't celebrate Christmas because my uncle's an athiest. He tried to get my family to take God out of Christmas and Easter saying we shouldn't celebrate Jesus's birth or resurection because he doesn't believe. Then at every job I have done I have been strictly told not to say Marry Christmas instead I'm supposed to say Happy Holiday's I of course didn't listen but its pretty sad I was told not to. Then the anthem Athiests in the country want God taken out of the anthem because they don't believe he exists.

In our schools your not supposed to pray in public. I had a Bible study at one school but when I went into an inner city school they said that no Bible Study groups were allowed. People support Gay marriage and suddenly church's aren't supposed to preach the Bible, members of the Government even tried to get the Bible banned as hate literature.

This whole political correctness towards religious beliefs is ruining my country. It seems the rules only apply to Christianity. I mean I saw posters all over my city for duvalle, they had a huge parade and everyone was saying happy duvalle to each other. I even did so I thought it was interesting to celebrate someone elses holiday. Passover weekend happens and everyone is talking about how Moses parted the red sea and in Vancouver their were celebrations for Hannuka and Passover. Ramadan is also celebrated here.

Why is it only Christian's who have to shut up and not celebrate their holiday's? How offensive can saying Merry Christmas be? Seriously my uncle is juvinille to think that we shouldn't celebrate our holidays because he's an athiest.

Athiests, Muslim's, Jews, Sihk's , Hindu's , Buddhists we all should celebrate our holidays and leave Christian's and those who believe differently the hell alone. Political correctness is destroying our countries.

As for racism, I think each race has traits and pointing them out should not be deemed racist. Black people tend to be bigger then whites, white's tend to be bigger then asian's. Asian's must have migrated from Asia. I found it funny one time a speaker came to my school to talk about political correctness and she was Asian. She said how upset and hurt she was when someone asked her which country she was from. She replied Canada and the person asked again which country of origin she was from. She apparently got upset and walked away. She said it was discriminitary she said a white guy wouldn't go up to another white guy and ask the question. Of course I have asked many white people where they come from, I think its a decent question. But no she said it was politically incorrect and hurtful.

But when people start insulting ones religion (Like Athiests do right here on VGChartz and other groups across all borders) or when someone leads a white supremecy group calling for genocide. Or my rascist prick friend gives another talk about how interacial relationships are wrong because white people should never go out with a black person because whites are superior. Those cases I am against.

I am against intollerance, but as such I think all groups should start tollerating each other. Athiests need to learn that everyone shouldn't do everything for them. Religious people need to realize not everyone believes what they do and should be able to practice all their own holiday's. People just need to grow a pair and stop whinning and complaining at every little thing.

Its called multiculturalism, everyone should be free to believe what they want and practice those beliefs as long as they are legal!



-JC7

"In God We Trust - In Games We Play " - Joel Reimer

 

Of course religious things are being removed from state institutions. You live in a secular country, the state shouldn't be supporting any religion.



I fully support all government buildings and public schools in not showing anything religious at all. A full separation of church and state is something that I can only hope is pushed further in Australia.

In regards to political correctness, a certain level of civility is neccesary, however taken to the extreme political correctness does stifle honest debate sometimes.



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Eh... this takes a large many paragraph long essay to explain... and 9 times out of 10 it doesn't do any good anyway... so i'll pass.

I will say though when it comes to religion.


I do think it is right to remove religious based things like say... the President reading a prayer to the nation every year as tradtion or something.

 

However, I disagree with laws that infringe on politicians ability to practice their religion.  For example, a particularly christian (Or vampire phobic) politician wanting to put a cross in his office.

 

I'm also not a fan of "historical" uses of religion being removed.  For example, there are always lawsuits whenever a courthouse has the ten commandments in them.

The Ten Commandments are quite possibly the most well known set of rules in the world.  Having the 10 commandments infront of your courthouse is no more supporting Christianity then having Hammurabi's Code supports Marduk.

"Anu and Bel called by name me, Hammurabi, the exalted prince, who feared God, to bring about the rule in the land.



Kasz216 said:

Eh... this takes a large many paragraph long essay to explain... and 9 times out of 10 it doesn't do any good anyway... so i'll pass.

I will say though when it comes to religion.


I do think it is right to remove religious based things like say... the President reading a prayer to the nation every year as tradtion or something.

 

However, I disagree with laws that infringe on politicians ability to practice their religion.  For example, a particularly christian (Or vampire phobic) politician wanting to put a cross in his office.

 

I'm also not a fan of "historical" uses of religion being removed.  For example, there are always lawsuits whenever a courthouse has the ten commandments in them.

The Ten Commandments are quite possibly the most well known set of rules in the world.  Having the 10 commandments infront of your courthouse is no more supporting Christianity then having Hammurabi's Code supports Marduk.

"Anu and Bel called by name me, Hammurabi, the exalted prince, who feared God, to bring about the rule in the land.

Ten commandments in a courthouse is one of the worst ones! If there is any part of the system that needs to be completely secular it's the justice system. Half of the commandments are about how you must worship the Abrahamic God and no other (even going into details like how he will punish the great grandchildren of unbelievers), those are not good things to have said in a courthouse.



This is just another case of a religious group having had priviledge for so long, that lacking it is now seen as unfair. Most of the time when I see somebody complaining about political correctness it turns out that at the heart of the matter it's a christian complaining that they don't have a special status in society anymore.

 Nobody is stopping you from celebrating christmas, nobody is stopping you from saying merry christmas. The fact that people are celebrating ramadan and that is seen as ok, is not persecution towards christians. Horror of horrors, some people are trying to be more inclusive of other people's beliefs by saying "happy holidays" during a period where alot of religion's holidays fall, instead of making a concentrated effort to single one out as special. If an employer asks you to say happy holidays because you don't know what religion the customers are coming into a store, that is not some overt persecution of your most sacred belief systems. If there is a coca-cola add that says happy holidays instead of merry christmas, that is not spitting in the face of jesus.

If your atheist uncle doesn't want to worship jesus at christmas with the family, that's a family issue, not one of some over arching political correctness directive.

Secularism is a neutral position, not an atheist position. If a government moves towards secularism, it is not favoring atheists, it's avoiding favoring any other group.

 

You can pray in schools, churches can teach the bible, and nobody is banning the bible as hate literature. That's just paranoia and persecution complexes. We're moving to a more pluralistic society, get over it.



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Rath said:
Kasz216 said:

Eh... this takes a large many paragraph long essay to explain... and 9 times out of 10 it doesn't do any good anyway... so i'll pass.

I will say though when it comes to religion.


I do think it is right to remove religious based things like say... the President reading a prayer to the nation every year as tradtion or something.

 

However, I disagree with laws that infringe on politicians ability to practice their religion.  For example, a particularly christian (Or vampire phobic) politician wanting to put a cross in his office.

 

I'm also not a fan of "historical" uses of religion being removed.  For example, there are always lawsuits whenever a courthouse has the ten commandments in them.

The Ten Commandments are quite possibly the most well known set of rules in the world.  Having the 10 commandments infront of your courthouse is no more supporting Christianity then having Hammurabi's Code supports Marduk.

"Anu and Bel called by name me, Hammurabi, the exalted prince, who feared God, to bring about the rule in the land.

Ten commandments in a courthouse is one of the worst ones! If there is any part of the system that needs to be completely secular it's the justice system. Half of the commandments are about how you must worship the Abrahamic God and no other (even going into details like how he will punish the great grandchildren of unbelievers), those are not good things to have said in a courthouse.

The Ten commandments are in courthouses, not as a show of faith, but as the most well know system of ancient laws. That's like saying museuems shouldn't have pictures of Jesus, or sculptures of the Egyptian gods.



Kasz216 said:
Rath said:

Ten commandments in a courthouse is one of the worst ones! If there is any part of the system that needs to be completely secular it's the justice system. Half of the commandments are about how you must worship the Abrahamic God and no other (even going into details like how he will punish the great grandchildren of unbelievers), those are not good things to have said in a courthouse.

The Ten commandments are in courthouses, not as a show of faith, but as the most well know system of ancient laws. That's like saying museuems shouldn't have pictures of Jesus, or sculptures of the Egyptian gods.

That is a ridiculous analogy. Muesems are made to showcase history, which includes many religions.

Courthouses are meant to deal in secular law, which should not involve religious commandments from any religion.