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Mr. Fister on 09 May 2011
Gnac said:
Mr. Fister said:
Gnac said:

I'm NOT clicking that link, but I agree with the sentiment of the thread.

Just... no voice acting. PLEASE.


Dude, the voice-acting in SF64 was amazing. The one-liners wouldn't be half as meme-tastic without them.

You're only 20 years old; I don't expect you to understand the impact of the first game.

...uh, I grew up on games like Super Mario World and the like and even played the original in that time frame, so I think I have an idea of the impact certain games had.

"When you assume...."



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Gnac on 09 May 2011
Mr. Fister said:
Gnac said:
Mr. Fister said:
Gnac said:

I'm NOT clicking that link, but I agree with the sentiment of the thread.

Just... no voice acting. PLEASE.


Dude, the voice-acting in SF64 was amazing. The one-liners wouldn't be half as meme-tastic without them.

You're only 20 years old; I don't expect you to understand the impact of the first game.

...uh, I grew up on games like Super Mario World and the like and even played the original in that time frame, so I think I have an idea of the impact certain games had.

"When you assume...."

but this thread is about Starfox; a game which has never had a good sequel.

Also: I can't trust the opinion of a three-year old's cognitive abilities.



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wfz on 09 May 2011
RolStoppable said:
wfz said:

Lol, Malstrom is such a fanboy.

"The music does not need remaking. The music can, and should, stay exactly the same."

It's like he doesn't even try to pretend like he's not exuding his own fanboyism. The article was the same "don't remake sf64, the original was better and cannot be emulated!" sentence over and over and over and over.... This guy gives me headaches.

Now that I've actually read his blog post I've changed my mind. Yes, Starfox should be remade.

In direct response to your post: How low can you go? How can you object to the one line you quoted? You should be ashamed of yourself.


Well considering I was a Sega fanboy back in the genesis era, I never got to play this game. Hearing him say "it's bettur!" a million times over without really convincing me isn't really doing anything for me. There's that, and there's the fact that every single point he made against SF64 I actually loved about it.

 

The internet would be nothing without SF64 one-liners. Nothing.



Gnac on 09 May 2011
wfz said:

The internet would be nothing without SF64 one-liners. Nothing.

Actually, you're right. It was fucking BORING when all we had was Netscape and GIFs that played once.



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ethomaz on 09 May 2011

Sorry but StarFox 64 is the best StarFox ever.

And yes... I played and finished both (my first console was SNES).

There only three games I enjoy in N64: Mario 64 (finished 100%), Zelda: Ocarine of the Time (finished 100%) and StarFox 64 (finished 100%)... for all other games I was a PlayStation fanboy.



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Gnac on 09 May 2011
ethomaz said:

Sorry but StarFox 64 is the best StarFox ever.

And yes... I played and finished both.

So even you admit that there were terrible sequels. You just haven't learned where the problems began, but I forgive you.



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Mr. Fister on 09 May 2011
Gnac said:
Mr. Fister said:
Gnac said:
Mr. Fister said:
Gnac said:

I'm NOT clicking that link, but I agree with the sentiment of the thread.

Just... no voice acting. PLEASE.


Dude, the voice-acting in SF64 was amazing. The one-liners wouldn't be half as meme-tastic without them.

You're only 20 years old; I don't expect you to understand the impact of the first game.

...uh, I grew up on games like Super Mario World and the like and even played the original in that time frame, so I think I have an idea of the impact certain games had.

"When you assume...."

but this thread is about Starfox; a game which has never had a good sequel.

Also: I can't trust the opinion of a three-year old's cognitive abilities.


...yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and pull out of this argument, since that's an impasse that neither of us are going to get over. Any further debate would just be circular and meaningless, really.



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wfz on 09 May 2011
Gnac said:
wfz said:

The internet would be nothing without SF64 one-liners. Nothing.

Actually, you're right. It was fucking BORING when all we had was Netscape and GIFs that played once.


And then Star Fox 64 came around and fixed EVERYTHING with the internet. I'm glad we're seeing eye-to-eye on this!



ethomaz on 09 May 2011
Gnac said:
ethomaz said:

Sorry but StarFox 64 is the best StarFox ever.

And yes... I played and finished both.

So even you admit that there were terrible sequels. You just haven't learned where the problems began, but I forgive you.

SF64 is a better game than original... I enjoyed and waste more time in SF64 than SF (in fact I expend a lot of time with both and agree SF is harder than SF64).

StarFox was the beginning... StarFox 64 was the closest to be a perfect space ship game I've ever seen... no game in genre beat StarFox 64 until now.



wfz on 09 May 2011
RolStoppable said:
wfz said:

Well considering I was a Sega fanboy back in the genesis era, I never got to play this game. Hearing him say "it's bettur!" a million times over without really convincing me isn't really doing anything for me. There's that, and there's the fact that every single point he made against SF64 I actually loved about it.

 

The internet would be nothing without SF64 one-liners. Nothing.

The internet can also be used to inform one self about games you know nearly nothing about. In a way Star Fox 64 is like the new Star Wars trilogy. You don't realize that it's a step down from the original, if you don't know the original.

Here's the intro and first stage of Starfox. Corneria's music alone is better than the entire Starfox 64 soundtrack.

If you watch this gameplay video, then Starfox sure does look primitive. But remember that it was a SNES game and the only way that console could handle these polygon graphics was by having a Super FX chip in the cartridge. The game really does need and should receive a remake with modern technology. But please no changes to the gameplay. No arena levels which were the worse half of Starfox 64 and the entire game of Starfox Command on the DS.

I've seen the gameplay videos, but they still don't convince me. I've been under the impression it's one of those "you have to play it to understand" deals, which is where the issue lies. That being said, I will agree with you on two points:

1) The game's graphics, enemies, scenery, etc are so insanely outdated and old that this game really COULD use a remake much more than SF64. It would probably be more interesting as well since they could really evolve this game rather than just making SF64 flashier.

2) The music is badass. But if they were to ever seriously do a re-make, they'd have to re-make the music to fit modern-day sound quality. I would definitely agree they should keep it as close to the original style as possible, though.

 

One thing that really bugged me about the video you showed me:

Slippy is an annoying cock-sure dumbass, just like Falco. There is only room for one of those in my Star Fox world, and I'm not about to give that role to Slippy. I'd much rather he be a pansy-ass pilot who feeds me endless sympathy humor.