hey if you actually bought a gaming console to run linux well thats your call... if you're so unsatisfied as a consumer why don't you just sell your ps3 and buy a proper pc that will run linux better than the ps3 anyway?

was chatting with someone on anonnews. The leak was between the PSN and PS3 which was highly unsecure and easily breachable using 3rd party software and the PS Store PC client. It was how Anon knew what server to DDOS and whoever actually hacked the servers went in. You look for the most unsecure part of a network, that point typically is the client software itself between different networked devices. You look for ping lose.

If this person had actually bothered to read the FT article they're complaining about, they'd know that it explicitly alleges that admin accounts were stolen, and while customers' personal information could have been accessed in the operation, it supposedly wasn't.

Admin accounts are one thing, personal information is a different. Anon doesn't do personal info unless it benefits the end cause. Like Doxing the guys torturing Bradly Manning, they deserve to have their information publicly known for their abusive and criminal acts of violence and cruelty to someone who was just playing a major part in whistleblowing.

This thread is full of lulz.

How ironic, Anon tearing itself apart over this. Inevitably some people in these organisations go too far for others' liking.

It even happens in violent terror groups, look what's happened with the (now voluntarily disarmed) IRA vs. the Real IRA.

The problem of course is that the ultra-radical hackers in Anon are now off the leash because of this rift. One wonders what the "Real Anonymous" might be capable of now that there's no moderating influence of the more moderate Anon members. This schism isn't necessarily something to get excited over.

If they did they really didn't look at everything before starting did they? No one had Sony knocking at their door for installing Customer Firmware on their PS3. Mr Hotz did for releasing secure information about the PS3 OS and essentially a 'How To' pirate games (or create Homebrew), he is the only person to be 'sued' by Sony. Sony do own the Operating System on the PS3, not us, that's licenced like all software is.

I also heard Anon were entering because of OtherOS which was removed because people like Mr Hotz were using it to break PS3's security to allow people to play pirated games (or create Homebrew).

Eitherway, Anonymous entered a battle not like their other campaigns. Helping Egyptian and Libyan people communicate, DDoS attacks on people oppressing freedom of speach in the case of WikiLeaks, and most the others were campaigns on the side of 'right', without harming customer's directly (most the websites being DDoS handled it and were back up in a few hours if that). This always seemed more of a case of doing because it harms many of Anonymous themselves and in doing so has harmed everyone who uses a Playstation product and SOE game, blame can be put on them, indirectly or not.

karma!

homebrew and creating homebrew applications has nothing to do with Piracy. I can make a "homebrew" application in Windows Visual Basic or a "homebrew" web application like Farmville.

And Sony can keep their XMB OS. I want to install my own. They do not own my PS3 at all.

Whether you like to think they don't have any relation or not, they do sadly when it comes to games consoles. The ability (software required) to create and use homebrew on a game system, which is usually tight locked system, also allows unsavoury people to play and pirate games. If people could create great software and programs for PS3 on their own for their own use then I'm all for that but not at the expense of games companies who rely on sales to keep afloat. But then if you can create homebrew on your PC why do you want to do it on the PS3?

Why don't you install your own? What's stopping you? Mr Hotz did release his version with a guide for a few days before Sony stepped in, you could have claimed it and installed it. Have Sony come to you and physically stopped you from doing it?