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Jay520 on 09 May 2011

I don't care what they did back in the day. It doesn't change what they're doing now, which I and nearly every other PSN user are unhappy with.

If they wanted to fight for our rights, then they could have taken another route. Paticularly one that wouldn't leave PSN down.

The actions they're taking now is hurting more people than helping. If they wanted to help the public, they could do something that help the greater population as opposed to a handfull of individuals.

If Sony was wrong, then let the courts handle it, not some hacker vigilantees.



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ssj12 on 09 May 2011
kitler53 said:
ssj12 said:
Jay520 said:

It appears some members of Anonymous are fighting for our rights by attacking members of Anonymous, who are also fighting for our rights.

LOL, I hope they hack themselves out of my life, because they sure as fuck ain't helping me out, or 99.9 % of all PSN users.


Apparently you have no idea that Anonymous helped out the Egyptians by setting up dial-up friendly blogs, websites, and offering any type of technical support they needed and still need, currently Libyans with the samething, making those torturing Bradly Manning hate their lives, battling Viacom and New Zealand over people's rights on the internet, fought the Church of Scientology over attempted internet censorship, the US Government over CopyWrong laws, and many other noble battles.

Even if you don't see the main benefit of the PSN DDOSing, there was basic rights to ownership of our consoles were being fought for. But I guess now we have the class action suit again Sony to gain back OtherOS.

but but but .. but i thought anonymous was just an idea.  if ideas can't be blamed for hacking psn then surely ideas can't be credited for anything else either.  


Ideas can be formed into actions of collected few. How do you think the US revolution started? It wasn't a spontaneous reaction to anything. It was people discussing and forming opinions then acting on them.

Truly a lot of anon disagrees with what happened to the PSN. But also Sony was leaking personal information like it was Niagara Falls so in the end I guess our information being more secure is a benefit of all this.



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CaptainObvious on 09 May 2011
ssj12 said:
kitler53 said:
ssj12 said:
Jay520 said:

It appears some members of Anonymous are fighting for our rights by attacking members of Anonymous, who are also fighting for our rights.

LOL, I hope they hack themselves out of my life, because they sure as fuck ain't helping me out, or 99.9 % of all PSN users.


Apparently you have no idea that Anonymous helped out the Egyptians by setting up dial-up friendly blogs, websites, and offering any type of technical support they needed and still need, currently Libyans with the samething, making those torturing Bradly Manning hate their lives, battling Viacom and New Zealand over people's rights on the internet, fought the Church of Scientology over attempted internet censorship, the US Government over CopyWrong laws, and many other noble battles.

Even if you don't see the main benefit of the PSN DDOSing, there was basic rights to ownership of our consoles were being fought for. But I guess now we have the class action suit again Sony to gain back OtherOS.

but but but .. but i thought anonymous was just an idea.  if ideas can't be blamed for hacking psn then surely ideas can't be credited for anything else either.  


Ideas can be formed into actions of collected few. How do you think the US revolution started? It wasn't a spontaneous reaction to anything. It was people discussing and forming opinions then acting on them.

Truly a lot of anon disagrees with what happened to the PSN. But also Sony was leaking personal information like it was Niagara Falls so in the end I guess our information being more secure is a benefit of all this.


Ideas come from the mind generated by the brain so that means anonymous are intelligent creatures like dolphins?



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Ail on 09 May 2011
ssj12 said:
kitler53 said:
ssj12 said:
Jay520 said:

It appears some members of Anonymous are fighting for our rights by attacking members of Anonymous, who are also fighting for our rights.

LOL, I hope they hack themselves out of my life, because they sure as fuck ain't helping me out, or 99.9 % of all PSN users.


Apparently you have no idea that Anonymous helped out the Egyptians by setting up dial-up friendly blogs, websites, and offering any type of technical support they needed and still need, currently Libyans with the samething, making those torturing Bradly Manning hate their lives, battling Viacom and New Zealand over people's rights on the internet, fought the Church of Scientology over attempted internet censorship, the US Government over CopyWrong laws, and many other noble battles.

Even if you don't see the main benefit of the PSN DDOSing, there was basic rights to ownership of our consoles were being fought for. But I guess now we have the class action suit again Sony to gain back OtherOS.

but but but .. but i thought anonymous was just an idea.  if ideas can't be blamed for hacking psn then surely ideas can't be credited for anything else either.  


Ideas can be formed into actions of collected few. How do you think the US revolution started? It wasn't a spontaneous reaction to anything. It was people discussing and forming opinions then acting on them.

Truly a lot of anon disagrees with what happened to the PSN. But also Sony was leaking personal information like it was Niagara Falls so in the end I guess our information being more secure is a benefit of all this.


Somehow I don't remember the founding fathers being big on anonymity or lolz.

What next, you're going to compare a bunch of nerd teens in their basement and Gandhi ?

You keep talking about ideas and brains but at the same time you keep repeating like a parrot every pro anonymous pamphlet that you've been reading on the net...



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Ail on 09 May 2011

If it's ok for a bunch of vigilante to hack Sony. I don't see why it woudn't be ok for other vigilantes to hack and make trouble for the people that hacked into Sony.

It will most likely lead to bad things in the end but personnaly I coudn't reproach someone that would for example expose the identity and adresses of the people that breached the PSN....They have it coming by their actions..

 

As for Sony their next move should be evident.

Offer a cash reward for information leading to the perpetrators of the breach and see how tighly knit that community of anonynous hackers really is...



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damndl0ser on 09 May 2011
Jay520 said:

I don't care what they did back in the day. It doesn't change what they're doing now, which I and nearly every other PSN user are unhappy with.

If they wanted to fight for our rights, then they could have taken another route. Paticularly one that wouldn't leave PSN down.

The actions they're taking now is hurting more people than helping. If they wanted to help the public, they could do something that help the greater population as opposed to a handfull of individuals.

If Sony was wrong, then let the courts handle it, not some hacker vigilantees.


<------  Devils advocate.....

We are lucky that whoever hacked Sony did it now and not later.  Just imagine  if this had happend later down the line and Sony still had shit security.  Millions uppon millions of new customers would have been exposed to this theft as well.  So hopefully when we get PSN back it will be a lot harder to hack than apparently it was in the begining.  

So yes its a bitch not being able to go play online and do a few other things.  But I for one am happy it happend now and not later.  Because I never put my Credit Card info in and I was thinking about doing so recently.  Long story short, I will stick with buying PSN cards and having no worries.  I imagine lots and lots of people will be doing the same thing in the future.



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thismeintiel on 09 May 2011
damndl0ser said:
Jay520 said:

I don't care what they did back in the day. It doesn't change what they're doing now, which I and nearly every other PSN user are unhappy with.

If they wanted to fight for our rights, then they could have taken another route. Paticularly one that wouldn't leave PSN down.

The actions they're taking now is hurting more people than helping. If they wanted to help the public, they could do something that help the greater population as opposed to a handfull of individuals.

If Sony was wrong, then let the courts handle it, not some hacker vigilantees.


<------  Devils advocate.....

We are lucky that whoever hacked Sony did it now and not later.  Just imagine  if this had happend later down the line and Sony still had shit security.  Millions uppon millions of new customers would have been exposed to this theft as well.  So hopefully when we get PSN back it will be a lot harder to hack than apparently it was in the begining.  

So yes its a bitch not being able to go play online and do a few other things.  But I for one am happy it happend now and not later.  Because I never put my Credit Card info in and I was thinking about doing so recently.  Long story short, I will stick with buying PSN cards and having no worries.  I imagine lots and lots of people will be doing the same thing in the future.

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Robbie2010 on 09 May 2011
damndl0ser said:

Courts can't do anything with these ip's anyways.  They were obtained illegally, so that means even if they were real nothing can come of it.  

 

Besides any hacker would know better than to stroll around using their own ip.  You see there are these things called proxies, look them up.  Then you can understand why these ip's don't matter.


Illegally obtained evidencre only applies to officers of the law, and those acting on their behalf.  If i got to my neighbors house and steal his hardrive containing illegal material such as child porn and bring it to the police they can arrest him.  However if the police were the ones who told me to do that then the evidence can't be used.

 

source: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_constitutes_acting_as_an_agent_of_the_police



Ail on 09 May 2011
damndl0ser said:
Jay520 said:

I don't care what they did back in the day. It doesn't change what they're doing now, which I and nearly every other PSN user are unhappy with.

If they wanted to fight for our rights, then they could have taken another route. Paticularly one that wouldn't leave PSN down.

The actions they're taking now is hurting more people than helping. If they wanted to help the public, they could do something that help the greater population as opposed to a handfull of individuals.

If Sony was wrong, then let the courts handle it, not some hacker vigilantees.


<------  Devils advocate.....

We are lucky that whoever hacked Sony did it now and not later.  Just imagine  if this had happend later down the line and Sony still had shit security.  Millions uppon millions of new customers would have been exposed to this theft as well.  So hopefully when we get PSN back it will be a lot harder to hack than apparently it was in the begining.  

So yes its a bitch not being able to go play online and do a few other things.  But I for one am happy it happend now and not later.  Because I never put my Credit Card info in and I was thinking about doing so recently.  Long story short, I will stick with buying PSN cards and having no worries.  I imagine lots and lots of people will be doing the same thing in the future.

or you could just use a credit card with decent security feature and sleep soundly.

My cc number is on PSN, I loose no sleep over it...

My wife got her cc number stolen on itunes little less than two years ago. The thieves actually charged some stuff on the card. It cost me nothing and the credit card company was actually the one to call us and tell us about it and send a new card...

 

Besides that I don't get the big outrage over credit card security when millions of people daily give their card to perfect strangers in restaurants and let them get out of their sight...( for the record in most europeans country people will not let you walk away with their card, restaurants have portable card processing units they bring to your table..).

Seriously how many of you that are scared to use your cc on PSN use the same card to pay for lunch or dinner ?



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Solid-Stark on 09 May 2011

Ha. Irony.



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