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Seece said:


Probably the cynic in me, I feel whoever's in charge that government will always be corrupt, I don't blame America for not consulting the Pakistani prime minister.

You could have said the same thing about most any national government and I would have agreed :)



 

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M.U.G.E.N said:
dib8rman said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Zlejedi said:
dib8rman said:

Right, the anti-American sentimentality in Pakistan has been at a high for years, this doesn't work to depolarize public thought there and the government is taking the heat for what the people there believe is a National Security issue. I could probably go as far as to say that the National pride has taken a shot. Either way in reality there really isn't much Islamabad can do to stop a Washingotn decision, so long as they house terrorists we will need them so they will continue to house terrorists. If it weren't for them being our allies, the country would probably be invaded by now.

And then watch India changing into Fallout type of terrain ?

Pakistan is untachable as they have atomic weapons and as they are muslims they are crazy enough to use them.


dude that is so wrong on so many level 0_o come on man I expect better from you

If a respondant cant get that he intends to say "radicalist muslim groups are crazy enough to use them", then anyone responding without citing the correction or progressing the conversation with the spirit of the sentence in mind and involving the identity of those muslims being radicalists should expect better of themselves first.

It's a kind of hypocracy when someone responds like this, it's of course offensive in a dodgey way to say he may be a bigot or worse psychophant, but don't think because you claim a high ground that you're actually immune to nitpicking, if anything any immorality  is seen much more clearly.

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wait what? Use your brain a bit more next time before trying to act smart why won't ya? makes people look stupid if not ;) fact of the matter is this, when you read something like this, you can either A go with the exact meaning, B go with what you hope/think it is. Either way using such sentences is just out right wrong and causes unneeded problems and can be very offensive. Hence why I said what I did. I don't know him that well but I have seen his posts to know he is not a bad poster but he needs to be careful about what he says, as do everyone. Especially regarding topics like this. He is more than welcome to point out if I make such an error as well.

and my goodness, you use the term high ground and you say this? geez hypocrit much? I never meant any harm by what I said and if HE felt so he can take it up with me personally and I will be more than happy to explain my words, no problem whatsoever. Not sure why you have your panties in a bunch over this tho? get off your high horse and stop reading into things too much. Maybe next time practice what you preach, don't 'assume' things. It's kinda sad and amusing at the same time lol

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The only reason for the ;) was because of a syllogism there and an ironic twist believe it or not not geared at you, taking advantage or mocking someone for their ignorance or oversight is doubly as shameful. You seem to be a person with many assumptions to make[ such as that I write to appear smart. Could it be that I just saw you're post as offensive and had to comment back? If you mean my prose gives that impression then you're wrong again if you say that was my intention, it's a practice of mine to use the right words for the right idea and in a meaningful way, again that this is a practice should impress you on my inexperience.

I can't see where I made an assumption of you, even in the last paragraph I relied on the content of your post and only painted out the reality versus your presumption. But if you want to use the I'm rubber your glue argument then, I'll have to leave you at your best.

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Okay here's an example "Sir that I have a grievances with, could you elaborate? Do you mean all Muslims or just radicalists?"

Someone else answered the question in a leading way and got the answer they would have gotten. But you didn't even ask for clarity and here is where the assumption began.



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Pakistan should just shut up. Who are they to warn or even ask America?



dib8rman said:

It is fair to say that my statement might have been incoherent, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this one. So if you'll have me I'll give it a second shot:

If a person were to say to me that Pakistan was not harboring those that would send civilian air planes into civilian buildings before 2002 then I would have to buy that person a tin foil hat to go with their card board sign.


What on earth are you on about? You really aren't making much sense.

Are you saying Pakistan was harbouring Osama Bin Laden before 2002 or are you talking about something I wasn't discussing but you for some reason brought up? Don't try and act all clever just speak straight up please.



Badassbab said:
dib8rman said:

It is fair to say that my statement might have been incoherent, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this one. So if you'll have me I'll give it a second shot:

If a person were to say to me that Pakistan was not harboring those that would send civilian air planes into civilian buildings before 2002 then I would have to buy that person a tin foil hat to go with their card board sign.


What on earth are you on about? You really aren't making much sense.

Are you saying Pakistan was harbouring Osama Bin Laden before 2002 or are you talking about something I wasn't discussing but you for some reason brought up? Don't try and act all clever just speak straight up please.


Syllogisms work that way, and I gave you the best example anyone could. Since the thread is about Pakistan I believe I've also stayed on topic. Clever, I wouldn't bother writing if the goal was to be clever or if I did it would have been tongue in cheek.

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I see, you should read the 9/11 Commission report on Pakistan, you may find it interesting and if you have then there's nothing more to talk about.



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Rath said:

Pakistan is a mystery wrapped in an enigma. They are playing so many sides that I doubt anybody, even themselves, really know whats what.

Well, they are basically an unpopular corrupt government clinging to power, only sticking around because the alternatives are distatseful to basically the entire rest of the world.



Kasz216 said:
Rath said:

Pakistan is a mystery wrapped in an enigma. They are playing so many sides that I doubt anybody, even themselves, really know whats what.

Well, they are basically an unpopular corrupt government clinging to power, only sticking around because the alternatives are distatseful to basically the entire rest of the world.

The main alternative is Musharraf-style dictatorship, but the military is just as cozy with the Taliban as the Pakistan People's Party is, and the alternative to the PPP or the Military is the Taliban itself, so yeah.

Though you have to understand that a lot of it is that none of the Pakistanis want to see Afghanistan fall to the Indians, and they all support the idea of having terrorists wage proxy wars against India and Indian interests.



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dib8rman said:
Badassbab said:


What on earth are you on about? You really aren't making much sense.

Are you saying Pakistan was harbouring Osama Bin Laden before 2002 or are you talking about something I wasn't discussing but you for some reason brought up? Don't try and act all clever just speak straight up please.


Syllogisms work that way, and I gave you the best example anyone could. Since the thread is about Pakistan I believe I've also stayed on topic. Clever, I wouldn't bother writing if the goal was to be clever or if I did it would have been tongue in cheek.

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I see, you should read the 9/11 Commission report on Pakistan, you may find it interesting and if you have then there's nothing more to talk about.


Wow your a difficult one aren't you?

I'm looking through the 9/11 Commission report and there's not a single heading or sub heading dedicated to Pakistan. Since your so sure of yourself could you locate the exact page and if your not sure then at least point me in the right direction. I'm very interested to see if Pakistan was harbouring Bin Laden pre 9/11 for in your own worlds 'strikes against the Western world'. I don't believe you but I'm willing to be proven wrong.



Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was captured in 2003 in Pakistan through a joint effort of the ISI and American forces.

There are reasons like him, like bin Laden and so on. Now if you can't find that mans name at all in whatever your reading then your not reading the 9/11 com report.



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dib8rman said:

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was captured in 2003 in Pakistan through a joint effort of the ISI and American forces.

There are reasons like him, like bin Laden and so on. Now if you can't find that mans name at all in whatever your reading then your not reading the 9/11 com report.


That's not the same as saying Pakistan was harbouring them pre 9/11 which is what you said. They were in hiding after the invasion of Afghanistan which is post 9/11. Like practically every single senior figures of the Taliban and Al Qaeda and a lot of them fled to Pakistan and hid there nothing new about that and not what we were discussing. What a wasted exercise this has been.