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Serious_frusting on 08 May 2011

you can still play the PS3. RROD kills consoles so i would say thats worse



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smroadkill15 on 08 May 2011
pizzahut451 said:
smroadkill15 said:
mchaza said:

RROD, that broke your xbox, and you lost it for several weeks or worst have to buy an new one. PSN is an free service currently inactive. Big deal. 


Your missing the big picture. It has nothing to do with not being able to play online for a couple of weeks, but Sony allowing 77 million psn accounts to be comprimised, let alone waiting a week to tell everyone. I guess potentially getting your indentity stolen isn't that big of a deal to you? I'm amazed how forgiving some people are to Sony because if this was MS I would be fucking pissed beyond belief. 

Oh Im sure you would. The pciture you seem to be missing is that Sony along side with other credit card companies said there are no evidnce for any stolen credit card theft as of now. And Microsoft allowed, what 10-15 million CONSOLES to go to shit? How can people comapre these 2 is amazing.

I believe they do not need to have your CC to get your identity stolen. All they need is the basics like name, birthdate, address, email, etc. which was compromise. If you didn't know SOE did tell everyone that 12,700 Credit cards were compromised, but only 900 were still active. That is still potentially 900 that could get their CC stolen along with their personal data.  



Kenryoku_Maxis on 08 May 2011
Fufinu said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:

A RROD kills your entire system so you can't play games.  And has been a consistent problem overe the entire course of the XBOX360.

PSN just doesn't allow you to utilize the online features of your PS3.  But you can still play single player games.  And its only been about 2 weeks of downtime, which is less than whatyou'd be down sending your XBNOX360 in for 'repairs'.  Especially if your XBOX360 has died 3-5 times like many people.

I don't know why people keep making this thread.  2 Weeks vs 6 years of problems is pretty easy to compare.


PSN is not a 2 weeks problem. Personal information was stolen for lifetime.

Potentially PSN could be worse if the information gets to be used.

If any personal information gets sold.  And even then, some reports state the vast majority of people personal information were limited to their name, e-mail address and phone number.  Annoying to be sure, but its not their Social, credit cards and other major personal information.

Only time will tell what level of information got leaked.  And even if anyone was affected.  All the more reason you can't claim PSN being down is as big of a problem as RROD.  Because one has been confirmed to affect close to 20 million people.  The other has yet to be confirmed if it will affect anyone but Sony.



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dsister on 08 May 2011
mantlepiecek said:


Hahaha

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You guys need to understand there are people who play the PS3 without ever creating a PSN account. What did they lose again? Nothing.

RROD affects anyone and there was absolutely no way to dodge it. After the bigger HDDs started coming out there were ways to dodge overheating issues and all, but it was quite late and expensive.

I'm sorry, but that is failed logic, PSN is okay because not everyone makes a PSN account? Last I checked 80% of PS3s had PSN accounts. Where the RRoD only had a 50% failure rate. 



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xeroxm3 on 08 May 2011

I think one of the main reasons you could argue the PSN situation could be worse is that it affects every single PS3 out there at once. The RROD situation was a very costly and widespread failure on Microsoft's part however I give them credit for rebounding nicely. RROD really hurt their wallets but they managed to keep most of their 360 owners at least satisfied enough to stick by them. In the end, I think it's a wash but people shouldn't underestimate how different these two problems have been handled.



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mantlepiecek on 08 May 2011
dsister said:
mantlepiecek said:


Hahaha

OT:

You guys need to understand there are people who play the PS3 without ever creating a PSN account. What did they lose again? Nothing.

RROD affects anyone and there was absolutely no way to dodge it. After the bigger HDDs started coming out there were ways to dodge overheating issues and all, but it was quite late and expensive.

I'm sorry, but that is failed logic, PSN is okay because not everyone makes a PSN account? Last I checked 80% of PS3s had PSN accounts. Where the RRoD only had a 50% failure rate. 

How do know that? The link everyone throws around talks about 80% of the PS3s being connected to the internet, huge difference. By connecting to the internet but not using a PSN account you can:

Download system updates.

Download Game updates.

You can browse the internet.

77 million accounts, if 80% of the PS3 users made an account it would amount to 40 million PSN users.

XBL has more users who play online than PSN. Its a fact. And no of XBL users including silver members = 30 million or so.

lol.

Not everyone is connected to the internet. Not everyone who is connected to the internet uses a PSN account. Not everyone who uses a PSN account has legitimate info on it. Not everyone who has legitimate info has a CC. None of the people who had a CC on PSN have had any kind of scam with it till now.

How is it in anyway comparable to rrod?



Pichsterz on 08 May 2011

Since I experience both RROD and PSN. I'll take a working console system than a dead one.anyday.



NJ5 on 08 May 2011
xeroxm3 said:

I think one of the main reasons you could argue the PSN situation could be worse is that it affects every single PS3 out there at once. The RROD situation was a very costly and widespread failure on Microsoft's part however I give them credit for rebounding nicely. RROD really hurt their wallets but they managed to keep most of their 360 owners at least satisfied enough to stick by them. In the end, I think it's a wash but people shouldn't underestimate how different these two problems have been handled.


Also the RROD happened when the install base was much smaller...

Well, Squilliam already pointed that out earlier but he got shot down even though it's a very good point IMO.



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dsister on 08 May 2011
mantlepiecek said:

How do know that? The link everyone throws around talks about 80% of the PS3s being connected to the internet, huge difference. By connecting to the internet but not using a PSN account you can:

Download system updates.

Download Game updates.

You can browse the internet.

77 million accounts, if 80% of the PS3 users made an account it would amount to 40 million PSN users.

XBL has more users who play online than PSN. Its a fact. And no of XBL users including silver members = 30 million or so.

lol.

Not everyone is connected to the internet. Not everyone who is connected to the internet uses a PSN account. Not everyone who uses a PSN account has legitimate info on it. Not everyone who has legitimate info has a CC. None of the people who had a CC on PSN have had any kind of scam with it till now.

How is it in anyway comparable to rrod?

I'm not saying it's comparable to RRoD? I'm just saying your reason for thinking the RRoD is worse is stupid. Because a larger percentage of PS3 users have been experiencing this problem then the Xbox userbase experienced RRoD 



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mantlepiecek on 08 May 2011
dsister said:
mantlepiecek said:

How do know that? The link everyone throws around talks about 80% of the PS3s being connected to the internet, huge difference. By connecting to the internet but not using a PSN account you can:

Download system updates.

Download Game updates.

You can browse the internet.

77 million accounts, if 80% of the PS3 users made an account it would amount to 40 million PSN users.

XBL has more users who play online than PSN. Its a fact. And no of XBL users including silver members = 30 million or so.

lol.

Not everyone is connected to the internet. Not everyone who is connected to the internet uses a PSN account. Not everyone who uses a PSN account has legitimate info on it. Not everyone who has legitimate info has a CC. None of the people who had a CC on PSN have had any kind of scam with it till now.

How is it in anyway comparable to rrod?

I'm not saying it's comparable to RRoD? I'm just saying your reason for thinking the RRoD is worse is stupid. Because a larger percentage of PS3 users have been experiencing this problem then the Xbox userbase experienced RRoD 

My reasoning hasn't got much to do with percentages. Its more like the true victims are not PS3 users but PSN users.

However the true victims of rrod were 360 owners, not just XBL users.