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I understand that with the SLIM model the problems have mostly been solved, but unconsciously I'm still worried, even with the new slim 360. I just can't help it. :/

I have a fat PS3 and hope it won't break for as long as I intend to use it. *knocks on wood*



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awesomeX10 said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:

it depends on how you look at it

i got a reall question? which one cost more to the consomer, PSN being down or a 360 that RROD on you?

you still have to factor in that some PSNer's don't have PS and same for XB-live.

Sony has everyone covered up to a million if anything even happens, so it's basically psn being down versus having your console get fried and have a 1 in 2 chance of being under warrenty 2-3 years later, I think the second one is worse

agreed



S.T.A.G.E. said:
scat398 said:

Well RROD ended about three years ago although some users on this site don't want to admit that.  But It was a huge financial burden to MS.  However MS was able to handle the situation well by fixing consoles for free and extending warranties.  This in the end gave MS a positive reputation to their customer service. 

 

Meanwhile the financial damage done to Sony is still unknown.  In the end the PSN failure and theft of information could be more expensive than the RROD, and because sony has handled the situation so poorly in the PR department their reputation is taking a greater hit than MS.

 

I think in the end neither company will be remembered for these problems in the mainstream.  But in the gaming community Sony will take the bigger PR hit.


RROD never ended three years ago. The warranty was put into place after a couple years of denial from Microsoft. RROD still plagues gamers and if you know about the store Play N Trade they'll tell ya. Play N Trade is like Gamestop and are all over the US, but unlike Gamestop you can play your games in-store and have them fix your consoles. 360's piled up to the heavens back then and still do today. Thank goodness for the new slims.

He was talking about on newer consoles, most RROD consoles are pre, jasper chipsets. With the jasper, and whatever rev the slim is on, your chances of RROD is probably as slim as getting a YLOD on a PS3. and BTW, like it or not, MS DID enact the three year warranty on RROD. how, or why, doesn't matter to the average consumer.



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mundus6 said:
manuel said:

RROD.

No question at all. Personally I don't use PSN very often. I wouldn't even have noticed the outage if I didn't read about it.

RROD is the biggest reason why I don't want to buy a 360. If I buy electronics I want them to last and if a failure is almost guaranteed (or if I get that impression), then I'm not interested.

Slim fixed all that and the later phat models had much less chance to RROD, hell i have yet to hear of one that was manufactured in 2009, that has broken down. In 2007 RROD was a huge thing, today its basically like YLOD; it happens, but not to many people (unless you got an old console).

If you have a fat PS3 (i do) i would be much more worried about that than a 360 thats from 2009 and forth as you still within the warranty plus they are better made than the fiasco that was the first models. If you are going out to buy a new console today, both are fine and you should not have a problem with them except maybe with the drives, but since games can be played from the HDD on both consoles now days, you shouldn't have to worry about that either.


RROD is still an issue which is far above YLOD (even though that is increasing). Go to any store in your town that fixes used and trades games systems. There are plenty of Play N Trades stores all over the country and they will tell you the same. Play N Trade is like Gamestop, but they fix your consoles as well. They also let you play the full games of anyting they have in-store on the console ahead of time to try out a future purchase. They charge for convenience so you dont have to wait like crazy to your system back from Microsoft, Sony or Nintendo. If fixes are slow they can fix your system in a day, but if they have a ton of 360's (usually the case) it could take like two weeks. I've been going to Play N Trade for the past two years from college and back home and have been to about five of them. The majority of their broken consoles are non-slim 360's. I've seen a couple stores with 360's waiting to be fixed up taking door spaces. That was the volume.



Zappykins said:

It also depends on if someone comes up with a catchy name for the PSN downage.  RROD has a cool ring, and people repeat it.  Plus the total amount of damage to people’s privacy – which is yet to be seen.

“Oh no! Not the Sony Anon-A-Net?”

 (Remember the SAAN of 2011-2012?)

PlayStation NOTwork.  Boom. 

More topically, I was playing some of my PS3 games a couple days ago, and I decided to fire up COD4 to see if I was still in the top million.  "Oh yeah, PSN is down.  I forgot." 

I'm pretty sure I wouldn't forget if my 360 died horribly while I was in the middle of Mass Effect and I had to wait half a month to keep going. 

So I'm gonna say RRoD was worse unless significant numbers of identity thefts ACTUALLY result. 



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S.T.A.G.E. said:
mundus6 said:
manuel said:

RROD.

No question at all. Personally I don't use PSN very often. I wouldn't even have noticed the outage if I didn't read about it.

RROD is the biggest reason why I don't want to buy a 360. If I buy electronics I want them to last and if a failure is almost guaranteed (or if I get that impression), then I'm not interested.

Slim fixed all that and the later phat models had much less chance to RROD, hell i have yet to hear of one that was manufactured in 2009, that has broken down. In 2007 RROD was a huge thing, today its basically like YLOD; it happens, but not to many people (unless you got an old console).

If you have a fat PS3 (i do) i would be much more worried about that than a 360 thats from 2009 and forth as you still within the warranty plus they are better made than the fiasco that was the first models. If you are going out to buy a new console today, both are fine and you should not have a problem with them except maybe with the drives, but since games can be played from the HDD on both consoles now days, you shouldn't have to worry about that either.


RROD is still an issue which is far above YLOD (even though that is increasing). Go to any store in your town that fixes used and trades games systems. There are plenty of Play N Trades stores all over the country and they will tell you the same. Play N Trade is like Gamestop, but they fix your consoles as well. They also let you play the full games of anyting they have in-store on the console ahead of time to try out a future purchase. They charge for convenience so you dont have to wait like crazy to your system back from Microsoft, Sony or Nintendo. If fixes are slow they can fix your system in a day, but if they have a ton of 360's (usually the case) it could take like two weeks. I've been going to Play N Trade for the past two years from college and back home and have been to about five of them. The majority of their broken consoles are non-slim 360's. I've seen a couple stores with 360's waiting to be fixed up taking door spaces. That was the volume.


Those are all used systems, do you think there are many 360 bought manufactured in 2009 that have already been resold? I am not denying that RROD still is a problem however, i am just saying if you bought a new console for the past 2 years you should be safe (especially with the slim model). If you have an earlier console then you probably already RROD by now, which means you have a refurb which are pretty good i must say, i got one myself and it is yet to break "Touches Wood".

PS3 that are sold old are also pretty bad, not 360 bad, but you should stay away from them nonetheless. RROD just has a more bitter taste on our tongue because of how big problem it used to be.



smroadkill15 said:
pizzahut451 said:
smroadkill15 said:
mchaza said:

RROD, that broke your xbox, and you lost it for several weeks or worst have to buy an new one. PSN is an free service currently inactive. Big deal. 


Your missing the big picture. It has nothing to do with not being able to play online for a couple of weeks, but Sony allowing 77 million psn accounts to be comprimised, let alone waiting a week to tell everyone. I guess potentially getting your indentity stolen isn't that big of a deal to you? I'm amazed how forgiving some people are to Sony because if this was MS I would be fucking pissed beyond belief. 

Oh Im sure you would. The pciture you seem to be missing is that Sony along side with other credit card companies said there are no evidnce for any stolen credit card theft as of now. And Microsoft allowed, what 10-15 million CONSOLES to go to shit? How can people comapre these 2 is amazing.

I believe they do not need to have your CC to get your identity stolen. All they need is the basics like name, birthdate, address, email, etc. which was compromise. If you didn't know SOE did tell everyone that 12,700 Credit cards were compromised, but only 900 were still active. That is still potentially 900 that could get their CC stolen along with their personal data.  

And how many of Ps3 users give thier real adress, age and name? Yeah, im guessing not much, and you'll be suprised how many people have accsess to your name, birthdate, address, email, etc ...   



mundus6 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
mundus6 said:
manuel said:

RROD.

No question at all. Personally I don't use PSN very often. I wouldn't even have noticed the outage if I didn't read about it.

RROD is the biggest reason why I don't want to buy a 360. If I buy electronics I want them to last and if a failure is almost guaranteed (or if I get that impression), then I'm not interested.

Slim fixed all that and the later phat models had much less chance to RROD, hell i have yet to hear of one that was manufactured in 2009, that has broken down. In 2007 RROD was a huge thing, today its basically like YLOD; it happens, but not to many people (unless you got an old console).

If you have a fat PS3 (i do) i would be much more worried about that than a 360 thats from 2009 and forth as you still within the warranty plus they are better made than the fiasco that was the first models. If you are going out to buy a new console today, both are fine and you should not have a problem with them except maybe with the drives, but since games can be played from the HDD on both consoles now days, you shouldn't have to worry about that either.


RROD is still an issue which is far above YLOD (even though that is increasing). Go to any store in your town that fixes used and trades games systems. There are plenty of Play N Trades stores all over the country and they will tell you the same. Play N Trade is like Gamestop, but they fix your consoles as well. They also let you play the full games of anyting they have in-store on the console ahead of time to try out a future purchase. They charge for convenience so you dont have to wait like crazy to your system back from Microsoft, Sony or Nintendo. If fixes are slow they can fix your system in a day, but if they have a ton of 360's (usually the case) it could take like two weeks. I've been going to Play N Trade for the past two years from college and back home and have been to about five of them. The majority of their broken consoles are non-slim 360's. I've seen a couple stores with 360's waiting to be fixed up taking door spaces. That was the volume.


Those are all used systems, do you think there are many 360 bought manufactured in 2009 that have already been resold? I am not denying that RROD still is a problem however, i am just saying if you bought a new console for the past 2 years you should be safe (especially with the slim model). If you have an earlier console then you probably already RROD by now, which means you have a refurb which are pretty good i must say, i got one myself and it is yet to break "Touches Wood".

PS3 that are sold old are also pretty bad, not 360 bad, but you should stay away from them nonetheless. RROD just has a more bitter taste on our tongue because of how big problem it used to be.

I don't think old PS3 are bad at all....