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Obieslut was a genius!!! Wii sales always had a limit? Yey or nay?

Wii sales always had a limit 28 20.14%
 
Ninty did not take advant... 22 15.83%
 
360 and PS3 became too competitive 12 8.63%
 
Wii seemed outdated 20 14.39%
 
crap thread is crap :( :( :( 39 28.06%
 
See results 18 12.95%
 
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daveJ said:

Well I was saying the same thing as well all along, Once wii sales drop they will drop worse than the other 2.

Also I predicted all 3 consoles would end up round the 100 million mark, most ppl on this site predicted wii around 50% marketshare & PS360 split the other 50% at generation end. Though still a LONG way to go before generation end, the last generation is still going, since theyre manufacturing ps2's. I can definietly see a 33% split far more likely than 50-25-25, or do people disagree.


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obieslut was a lengend, even his alt can't live up to. 

 

The Wii was created to last 5 years based on the specs Nintendo, full of money , put in there. 



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I do remember when a center 360 arcade model was price below the Wii in 08. Yet Microsoft never out sold the Wii during that entire time period.

The success of the Wii has multipile reason for it.  Price being maybe the last one amongst them.  The main factor was Nintendo not being able to produce the games that the new audience wanted. Some people on here would like to think Nintendo could just release more games. When they did those sequels  didn't sale as much as the original. Wii Sports to Resort, Fit to Fit Plus, Wii Party, and even NSMBWii to  DKCR.

Someone early said something about Nintendo not knowing how big the blue ocean market was. Well if the Gamecube only sold 25 million then 61 million user could be consider new. Then you take the 100 million combined between the HD consoles. That still leaves about 50 million left over from the PS2 I'm saying this since the PS2 is seemnas the Hardcore of the Hardcore consoles. No way all 150 million PS2 owners were nothing, but hardcore gamers."LOL" So any console with a price cut now, and a decent library of games. Can take advantage and maybe sale to them. Depending on what they want from their console of choice.

Regardless it's clear to see Nintendo had a 5 to 6 year plan for the Wii. Even if the were the winners or the loser when it came to market share. They knew they were going to drop another system.



 

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RolStoppable said:
The Gamecube showed pretty clearly how significant of a role price plays in video game hardware sales.

Both price and software library are signifcant factors. Gamecube's price was right (it was cut down to like $99 less than two years into the market!). But the software library left more to be desired (to the mass market). Also the PS2 was still reasonably priced for the mass market while the PS3 wasn't (until Aug 2009 anyway). So Gamecube definitely needed more than low pricing to counter the PS2.



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M.U.G.E.N said:

by 2006-2007 economy was already starting to go down under. And again, I hate repeating this to you, price IS a factor, 'a' not the biggest or anything. if you think a casual who walks into a store just to get a holiday gift for a kid will consider all the games coming out for it....well not sure what to think of that lol. Heck considering how lacking the number of good games have been on the wii (thanks to the 3rd parties ditiching it for the HD's) it should have been selling way way less in the past year.

and the argument was not whether ps3 COULD have sold for a lesser price because it couldn't as it packs way more than the wii. If they had just upgraded it a bit from the ps2, with ps2 sales still going strong and the brand name still fresh on the minds of consumers, they could have easily given a bigger competition in the early years for Ninty. But like I said, Ninty was smart, added motion control for the wow factors, made it affordable and cheaper in comparison, marketed it well and made few games to show off the tech to casuals. So like I said they did a lot of things right together to be so succcessful early on. But price did play a part, however significant it may have been, we may never know.

I would love to see Ninty come up with some out of this world tech (holograms! lol yea I wish) and price their console $500 and have many many great games from the start, no ports, and see how it sells in the long run. would be amusing to have this conversation then.

It really only began in late 2008, before that the average person certainly wasn't concerned about the economy. Price is a factor, but it really is negligible in the Wii's case. Even if the PS3 had been just a rather minor upgrade to the PS2 and priced accordingly, it wouldn't have impacted Wii sales. Those were driven by Wii Sports which the PS3 wouldn't have had anyway. You act as if people are stupid. You assume they, in large numbers, would willingly buy a console they do not want, only for the reason that it is cheaper than another system. The viral effect of the Wii wasn't "You have to buy this system because it costs less than the HD consoles", it was "You've got to check out Wii Sports!"

The Gamecube showed pretty clearly how significant of a role price plays in video game hardware sales.


nah pretty sure it the whole collapse was starting to gain momentum in 2007. I can remember well since I came to the US in late late 2006. And in 2007 the housing bubble burst etc were going full swing and people were starting to panic.

and again yor are jumping to assumptions. Who said the consumers are stupid? I keep restating that price is just ONE aspect of the case but an aspect nontheless. People won't buy a product like this if it didn't have anything that interests them as well (in this case games) but consumers will always compare products. And price will play a role, especially if one can notice a big difference between one and the competition.

so stop jumping into conclusions cuz it's getting silly. the point I'm making is simple and clear. Many things helped Wii sell so well initially, and price IS one of those things. To what extent it had an impact we will never know for sure so non-stop back and forth bickering about it won't do any good. But an impact it had for sure, as did motion control craze, games and marketing and so forth. Simple as that

Gamecube afaik did not have a ps2 priced way way higher than it to compete with. and it did not have motion control craze or any wow factor attatched to it. and ps2 gaming library overall was better too. Not a good comparison there.



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Who is Obieslut? and dont all sales have a limit thats redundant.



Mad55 said:

Who is Obieslut? and dont all sales have a limit thats redundant.

It was one of his defining moments on VGChartz

They laughed at him then. and the tradition will live on.

 



Albion said:
Mad55 said:

Who is Obieslut? and dont all sales have a limit thats redundant.

It was one of his defining moments on VGChartz

They laughed at him then. and the tradition will live on.

 

LMAO well damn



I guess you were right.



M.U.G.E.N said:
RolStoppable said:
M.U.G.E.N said:

by 2006-2007 economy was already starting to go down under. And again, I hate repeating this to you, price IS a factor, 'a' not the biggest or anything. if you think a casual who walks into a store just to get a holiday gift for a kid will consider all the games coming out for it....well not sure what to think of that lol. Heck considering how lacking the number of good games have been on the wii (thanks to the 3rd parties ditiching it for the HD's) it should have been selling way way less in the past year.

and the argument was not whether ps3 COULD have sold for a lesser price because it couldn't as it packs way more than the wii. If they had just upgraded it a bit from the ps2, with ps2 sales still going strong and the brand name still fresh on the minds of consumers, they could have easily given a bigger competition in the early years for Ninty. But like I said, Ninty was smart, added motion control for the wow factors, made it affordable and cheaper in comparison, marketed it well and made few games to show off the tech to casuals. So like I said they did a lot of things right together to be so succcessful early on. But price did play a part, however significant it may have been, we may never know.

I would love to see Ninty come up with some out of this world tech (holograms! lol yea I wish) and price their console $500 and have many many great games from the start, no ports, and see how it sells in the long run. would be amusing to have this conversation then.

It really only began in late 2008, before that the average person certainly wasn't concerned about the economy. Price is a factor, but it really is negligible in the Wii's case. Even if the PS3 had been just a rather minor upgrade to the PS2 and priced accordingly, it wouldn't have impacted Wii sales. Those were driven by Wii Sports which the PS3 wouldn't have had anyway. You act as if people are stupid. You assume they, in large numbers, would willingly buy a console they do not want, only for the reason that it is cheaper than another system. The viral effect of the Wii wasn't "You have to buy this system because it costs less than the HD consoles", it was "You've got to check out Wii Sports!"

The Gamecube showed pretty clearly how significant of a role price plays in video game hardware sales.


nah pretty sure it the whole collapse was starting to gain momentum in 2007. I can remember well since I came to the US in late late 2006. And in 2007 the housing bubble burst etc were going full swing and people were starting to panic.

and again yor are jumping to assumptions. Who said the consumers are stupid? I keep restating that price is just ONE aspect of the case but an aspect nontheless. People won't buy a product like this if it didn't have anything that interests them as well (in this case games) but consumers will always compare products. And price will play a role, especially if one can notice a big difference between one and the competition.

so stop jumping into conclusions cuz it's getting silly. the point I'm making is simple and clear. Many things helped Wii sell so well initially, and price IS one of those things. To what extent it had an impact we will never know for sure so non-stop back and forth bickering about it won't do any good. But an impact it had for sure, as did motion control craze, games and marketing and so forth. Simple as that

Gamecube afaik did not have a ps2 priced way way higher than it to compete with. and it did not have motion control craze or any wow factor attatched to it. and ps2 gaming library overall was better too. Not a good comparison there.


Your right... but wrong.   It started December 2007.

So... right in the specific, but wrong in the context.

It didn't really get reported or considered a problem until Late December... 2008.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late-2000s_recession