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Carl2291 said:

1. Sony expected it to lose a boat load of money. Losing $200 per unit at launch = losing a lot of money. You people make it sound like the PS3 was one big fuck up. No. Sony expected the losses. Judging by the gains PSP/PS2 made, it would seem Sony also knew the PS3 would never make back those losses in the PS division alone.

2. It's helped Blu-ray succeed in the world market.

3. It's currently making money, despite losing $200 per unit at launch and halving the price of the systems launch SKU's.

4. It's currently outselling its competitors by a whole lot.

If you don't want to debate over it, then leave the thread and stop trying to turn it into yet another "PS3 failed because of teh profits!" thread. Thanks.



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Carl2291 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

The money it made is a itty bitty fraction of what it lost.

But I'm not trying to have a debate over it.

1. Sony expected it to lose a boat load of money. Losing $200 per unit at launch = losing a lot of money. You people make it sound like the PS3 was one big fuck up. No. Sony expected the losses. Judging by the gains PSP/PS2 made, it would seem Sony also knew the PS3 would never make back those losses in the PS division alone.

2. It's helped Blu-ray succeed in the world market.

3. It's currently making money, despite losing $200 per unit at launch and halving the price of the systems launch SKU's.

4. It's currently outselling its competitors by a whole lot.

If you don't want to debate over it, then leave the thread and stop trying to turn it into yet another "PS3 failed because of teh profits!" thread. Thanks.

1. Sony clearly anticipated selling more consoles at a higher price.

2. PS3 helped Bluray grow. But I don't think it was worth hurting the Playstation brand and all that was lost in the process. I mean Sony doesn't own Bluray. They are just one of MANY large companies invested in it. It hasn't taken the world by storm either.

3 and 4. Small profits chipping away and epic losses.

I was pointing out why its hardly a success to someone who called it a success. It didn't need to turn into a debate and you clearly already know the facts. So stop turning it into one of those threads.



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Mr Puggsly said:
Carl2291 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

The money it made is a itty bitty fraction of what it lost.

But I'm not trying to have a debate over it.

1. Sony expected it to lose a boat load of money. Losing $200 per unit at launch = losing a lot of money. You people make it sound like the PS3 was one big fuck up. No. Sony expected the losses. Judging by the gains PSP/PS2 made, it would seem Sony also knew the PS3 would never make back those losses in the PS division alone.

2. It's helped Blu-ray succeed in the world market.

3. It's currently making money, despite losing $200 per unit at launch and halving the price of the systems launch SKU's.

4. It's currently outselling its competitors by a whole lot.

If you don't want to debate over it, then leave the thread and stop trying to turn it into yet another "PS3 failed because of teh profits!" thread. Thanks.

1. Sony clearly anticipated selling more consoles at a higher price.

2. PS3 helped Bluray grow. But I don't think it was worth hurting the Playstation brand and all that was lost in the process. I mean Sony doesn't own Bluray. They are just one of MANY large companies invested in it. It hasn't taken the world by storm either.

3 and 4. Small profits chipping away and epic losses.

I was pointing out why its hardly a success to someone who called it a success. It didn't need to turn into a debate and you clearly already know the facts. So stop turning it into one of those threads.

It's a success if we don't compare it with earlier Sony consoles but rather look at how it's currently selling compared to how it was selling in 2007.



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pezus said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Carl2291 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

The money it made is a itty bitty fraction of what it lost.

But I'm not trying to have a debate over it.

1. Sony expected it to lose a boat load of money. Losing $200 per unit at launch = losing a lot of money. You people make it sound like the PS3 was one big fuck up. No. Sony expected the losses. Judging by the gains PSP/PS2 made, it would seem Sony also knew the PS3 would never make back those losses in the PS division alone.

2. It's helped Blu-ray succeed in the world market.

3. It's currently making money, despite losing $200 per unit at launch and halving the price of the systems launch SKU's.

4. It's currently outselling its competitors by a whole lot.

If you don't want to debate over it, then leave the thread and stop trying to turn it into yet another "PS3 failed because of teh profits!" thread. Thanks.

1. Sony clearly anticipated selling more consoles at a higher price.

2. PS3 helped Bluray grow. But I don't think it was worth hurting the Playstation brand and all that was lost in the process. I mean Sony doesn't own Bluray. They are just one of MANY large companies invested in it. It hasn't taken the world by storm either.

3 and 4. Small profits chipping away and epic losses.

I was pointing out why its hardly a success to someone who called it a success. It didn't need to turn into a debate and you clearly already know the facts. So stop turning it into one of those threads.

It's a success if we don't compare it with earlier Sony consoles but rather look at how it's currently selling compared to how it was selling in 2007.

It helps some people sleep at night to deny the fact that PS3 made the biggest comeback in video game history.  Not worth arguing.  It requires fact spinning to say there is a clear winner between the 360 and PS3.  If / when PS3 gets into 2nd place, I expect the profit argument and "sony lost alot of market share since PS2" argument to come up about ten times what it is now.  MS wasn't exactly as efficient as Sony or Nintendo were in overthrowing the market leader (it doesn't even look like MS will be doing that, now).  It probably bugs some people.

 

Console fanboys analyze sunk costs alot more than investors do.  Investors are more concerned about the future and treat past transactions as a lesson for what to do in the future.  And we can bet that the PS4 won't have as much R&D.



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FinalEvangelion said:

It helps some people sleep at night to deny the fact that PS3 made the biggest comeback in video game history.  Not worth arguing.  It requires fact spinning to say there is a clear winner between the 360 and PS3.  If / when PS3 gets into 2nd place, I expect the profit argument and "sony lost alot of market share since PS2" argument to come up about ten times what it is now.  MS wasn't exactly as efficient as Sony or Nintendo were in overthrowing the market leader (it doesn't even look like MS will be doing that, now).  It probably bugs some people.

 

Console fanboys analyze sunk costs alot more than investors do.  Investors are more concerned about the future and treat past transactions as a lesson for what to do in the future.  And we can bet that the PS4 won't have as much R&D.

Excellent post.  100% agree.  Especially about the arguments that will come about if/when the PS3 becomes 2nd.



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