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Water boarding and Gitmo

torture 16 66.67%
 
not torture 3 12.50%
 
we tortured our own soldiers 2 8.33%
 
see results 2 8.33%
 
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Perhaps it is torture. Perhaps it isn't.

If, however, reasonable suspicion exists that the person is a terrorist (after all, it doesn't physically harm them), then waterboarding is a humane (relative to other methods) way of extracting information, preventing future attacks to save thousands of lives, locating leaders, and weakening the organisation.

I would much rather a cowardly terrorist leader who sends young, impressionable people to their deaths over false ideals to kill innocent people feels that he is drowning for a few minutes, than yet more innocent people are killed by terrorists. The only way to take down al-Qaeda in the long term is to remove its leaders so that the young people of the Middle East can grow up normally and with a respect for human life, without the constant risk of extremist Islamist corruption.



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osamanobama said:

 

 

anyway, so you think we tortured our own soldiers then?


yes.  soldiers endure things like that to make them more resistant to it, should they ever be captured by an enemy force. 



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Well I believe water boarding is Psychological torture if not physical as the person really feels like they are about to drown.

I think it should definatly be done to US soldiers, since if captured Water Boarding is definatly a method enemies may use to extract information. Just because the US trains its troops to defend against water boarding does not make it okay to water board others.

Whether or not the terrorists water board or do far worse things to American's doesn't mean its okay for the US to do those things to terrorists. Why should the US Government act like terrorists? The US has morals built in to it and to torture suspects makes the US no better then the terrorists they are fighting.

The US Army should always treat POW's with respect and dignity. The US is supposed to be the better person and not resort to inhumaine practises. Whether or not water boarding actually helped catch Osama is irrelevant. The US should never torture POW's!



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Waterboarding is torture, it's said that it simulates drowning but I've heard that your actually drowning; just slowly.

For obvious reasons torture shouldnt be used to extract guilt, but in the unique cases of Osama bin Laden it can be effective.



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I don't like it. I already think it's outrageous that these suspected terrorists are fed gourmet meals and allowed to play soccer, but letting them participate in waterboarding, jet skiing, and other extreme sports is just too much. It's a prison, not a vacation resort for fuck's sake.



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badgenome said:

I don't like it. I already think it's outrageous that these suspected terrorists are fed gourmet meals and allowed to play soccer, but letting them participate in waterboarding, jet skiing, and other extreme sports is just too much. It's a prison, not a vacation resort for fuck's sake.

Yea, they're immigrants too, illegal I think.



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Joelcool7 said:

Well I believe water boarding is Psychological torture if not physical as the person really feels like they are about to drown.

I think it should definatly be done to US soldiers, since if captured Water Boarding is definatly a method enemies may use to extract information. Just because the US trains its troops to defend against water boarding does not make it okay to water board others.

Whether or not the terrorists water board or do far worse things to American's doesn't mean its okay for the US to do those things to terrorists. Why should the US Government act like terrorists? The US has morals built in to it and to torture suspects makes the US no better then the terrorists they are fighting.

The US Army should always treat POW's with respect and dignity. The US is supposed to be the better person and not resort to inhumaine practises. Whether or not water boarding actually helped catch Osama is irrelevant. The US should never torture POW's!

I have to agree with this post. The US is better then tortue and waterboarding.



osamanobama said:

its called war. we arent attacking countries nor are we attacking civilians.

we are attacking enemy combatants, terrorists. we have declared was on them, these are not acts of terror.

attackiing and targeting civilains, like on 9/11 was an act of terror, blowing up subways was an act of terror, Major Hassan murdering people on the army base was an act of terror, the japanese bombing pearl habor was an act of terror.

we are not terrorist, and if you really think so. im sorry but you need some serious help.

You must have a strange definition of terrorism