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evolution_1ne said:







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FaRmLaNd said:

Good. Sony will get spanked by their own users and will have to tighten up security, but that doesn't excuse the hackers involved. As many of them as possible should be brought to justice aswell.


Nobody said hackers aren't at fault. Them being at fault does not automatically give Sony a free pass. Which, supposedly, the main problem.

Sony did a pretty good job hiding client side security for such a long time, though. LOL. Maybe they took a page right out of Art of War. The safest place is the most dangerous place.



thismeintiel said:
Kasz216 said:
evolution_1ne said:
Gnizmo said:
evolution_1ne said:

whaaaaaa hackers were involved??? since when son O_o


Since always? Do you understand anything about what is going on here? I don't mean to sound that harsh, but you are talking about this a whole lot, and seem surprised by the most basic fact of the situation. It is akin to being surprised Sony was involved in this at this stage.

Sarcasm really only works when you make a statement that is otherwise unebelievable of your character.

If the pope sarcastically says "Gays are evil" for example, no one is going to get it.

Obviously, it was unbelievable to his character.  Read the bolded.

@ OP

Shit just got real.


Nah, you see... he's been talking a lot about it... yet, constantly having to be corrected about just about everything.  Hence the confusion.



Unsuprising. Hope they get caught.



Kasz216 said:
thismeintiel said:
Kasz216 said:
evolution_1ne said:
Gnizmo said:
evolution_1ne said:

whaaaaaa hackers were involved??? since when son O_o


Since always? Do you understand anything about what is going on here? I don't mean to sound that harsh, but you are talking about this a whole lot, and seem surprised by the most basic fact of the situation. It is akin to being surprised Sony was involved in this at this stage.

Sarcasm really only works when you make a statement that is otherwise unebelievable of your character.

If the pope sarcastically says "Gays are evil" for example, no one is going to get it.

Obviously, it was unbelievable to his character.  Read the bolded.

@ OP

Shit just got real.


Nah, you see... he's been talking a lot about it... yet, constantly having to be corrected about just about everything.  Hence the confusion.

really lolz where was I wrong??? and again pussyfooting from the real issue like you ALWAYS do, you fail so hard sometimes bro



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evolution_1ne said:
Kasz216 said:
thismeintiel said:
Kasz216 said:
evolution_1ne said:
Gnizmo said:
evolution_1ne said:

whaaaaaa hackers were involved??? since when son O_o


Since always? Do you understand anything about what is going on here? I don't mean to sound that harsh, but you are talking about this a whole lot, and seem surprised by the most basic fact of the situation. It is akin to being surprised Sony was involved in this at this stage.

Sarcasm really only works when you make a statement that is otherwise unebelievable of your character.

If the pope sarcastically says "Gays are evil" for example, no one is going to get it.

Obviously, it was unbelievable to his character.  Read the bolded.

@ OP

Shit just got real.


Nah, you see... he's been talking a lot about it... yet, constantly having to be corrected about just about everything.  Hence the confusion.

really lolz where was I wrong??? and again pussyfooting from the real issue like you ALWAYS do, you fail so hard sometimes bro

In... every single thread you've been corrected in.  For example, the "Only 35 million users" thing.  Where he specifically posted a link that showed more users then that.

Then complaining about the "maximium possibility of loss" calculation... which, was explained to you abour 4-5 times.

And then the Identity theft issue... where Credit Card Numbers are the least of everyones worries.



Kasz216 said:
evolution_1ne said:
Kasz216 said:
thismeintiel said:
Kasz216 said:
evolution_1ne said:
Gnizmo said:
evolution_1ne said:

whaaaaaa hackers were involved??? since when son O_o


Since always? Do you understand anything about what is going on here? I don't mean to sound that harsh, but you are talking about this a whole lot, and seem surprised by the most basic fact of the situation. It is akin to being surprised Sony was involved in this at this stage.

Sarcasm really only works when you make a statement that is otherwise unebelievable of your character.

If the pope sarcastically says "Gays are evil" for example, no one is going to get it.

Obviously, it was unbelievable to his character.  Read the bolded.

@ OP

Shit just got real.


Nah, you see... he's been talking a lot about it... yet, constantly having to be corrected about just about everything.  Hence the confusion.

really lolz where was I wrong??? and again pussyfooting from the real issue like you ALWAYS do, you fail so hard sometimes bro

In... every single thread you've been corrected in.  For example, the "Only 35 million users" thing.  Where he specifically posted a link that showed more users then that.

Then complaining about the "maximium possibility of loss" calculation... which, was explained to you abour 4-5 times.

And then the Identity theft issue... where Credit Card Numbers are the least of everyones worries.

Actually, he was mostly right.  The 35 million master accounts/users thing came from a developer who makes games for the PSN, which I'm guessing was just an estimate on his part, but probably close to being accurate.  I know I have 3 accounts just on my PS3, for me, my wife, and UK PSN.  Furthermore, Sony just said that there are only 10 mil accounts that actually hold CC info, which are the only ones anyone is going to be concerned about.

The loss calculation was incorrect, as it did the WORST case scenerio for any business, then times it by 77 mil.  If you actually went to their calculator and punched in the info for Sony, you would have found it was more in line with $150 per account, not the $318 per account as stated in the article.  Even if you multiplied it by 77 mil, that's ~$11.5 bil, not $24 bil.  But like I said, the 10 mil that actually had vital CC info are the only ones anyone will be focused on, so it could be closer to $1.5 bil.  In the end, I doubt it will cost Sony anywhere over $2 bil for the whole breach.

And I have already addressed the identity theft issue in another thread.



NiKKoM said:

I want to thank the American Tax payer for this! You guys should be proud that your dollars are paying for this! :P


I am since it just might help protects my info.

It sounds like when it's all said and done, the perps are going to get their heads rolled.



Galaki said:
FaRmLaNd said:

Good. Sony will get spanked by their own users and will have to tighten up security, but that doesn't excuse the hackers involved. As many of them as possible should be brought to justice aswell.


Nobody said hackers aren't at fault. Them being at fault does not automatically give Sony a free pass. Which, supposedly, the main problem.

Sony did a pretty good job hiding client side security for such a long time, though. LOL. Maybe they took a page right out of Art of War. The safest place is the most dangerous place.

The pass code was "1"



greenmedic88 said:
Galaki said:
FaRmLaNd said:

Good. Sony will get spanked by their own users and will have to tighten up security, but that doesn't excuse the hackers involved. As many of them as possible should be brought to justice aswell.


Nobody said hackers aren't at fault. Them being at fault does not automatically give Sony a free pass. Which, supposedly, the main problem.

Sony did a pretty good job hiding client side security for such a long time, though. LOL. Maybe they took a page right out of Art of War. The safest place is the most dangerous place.

The pass code was "1"

Maybe the password was "Sony"