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A203D said:

Yes i am aware of that. but what crime has been commited - theft of what?? the names of 35 mil people, which is considered public anyway - its not illegal to know this information. it could be illegal in the way the hackers have obtained this data.

we have no evidence to suggest the hackers were after credit card details. since no cc data was taken. even if it was, the information of your cc details is encrypted, and its not complete - does this mean even if hackers had our cc details they could use that information, since it is not complete??

there has been no comment from the person or persons responsible to confirm they wanted credit card details. why have they targeted PSN's credit card details?? have they targeted PSN's credit card database??

i'm not convinced this group were after cc details. and i think Sony have known that for the last few days. and i think this is why they took so long to notify customers. i think they want to use the panic induced by the media to legitimise whatever brutal tactics they have in store for hackers in the future.

and i dont think identity fraud can be commited without a legal document like a passport or drivers license. your cc isnt considered a proof of identity.

 


Name is public. Address, phone number, email, passwords, and other bits are decidedly not considered public. They are, in fact, the definition of private information in many conversations. You are absolutely wrong about the identity bit. The information stolen is more than sufficient to commit identity theft and credit card fraud. I could probably sign-up for a credit card in your name with less actually.

Also, what is with the 35 million number? I haven't read or heard anything to that effect before. Is the claim that there is an average of over 2 accounts per person for the PSN now? Does nobody on the PSP ever use it? That ratio doesn't even come close to making sense to me. Anyone have confirmation of it from a remotely official source?



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Gnizmo said:
A203D said:

Yes i am aware of that. but what crime has been commited - theft of what?? the names of 35 mil people, which is considered public anyway - its not illegal to know this information. it could be illegal in the way the hackers have obtained this data.

we have no evidence to suggest the hackers were after credit card details. since no cc data was taken. even if it was, the information of your cc details is encrypted, and its not complete - does this mean even if hackers had our cc details they could use that information, since it is not complete??

there has been no comment from the person or persons responsible to confirm they wanted credit card details. why have they targeted PSN's credit card details?? have they targeted PSN's credit card database??

i'm not convinced this group were after cc details. and i think Sony have known that for the last few days. and i think this is why they took so long to notify customers. i think they want to use the panic induced by the media to legitimise whatever brutal tactics they have in store for hackers in the future.

and i dont think identity fraud can be commited without a legal document like a passport or drivers license. your cc isnt considered a proof of identity.

 


Name is public. Address, phone number, email, passwords, and other bits are decidedly not considered public. They are, in fact, the definition of private information in many conversations. You are absolutely wrong about the identity bit. The information stolen is more than sufficient to commit identity theft and credit card fraud. I could probably sign-up for a credit card in your name with less actually.

Also, what is with the 35 million number? I haven't read or heard anything to that effect before. Is the claim that there is an average of over 2 accounts per person for the PSN now? Does nobody on the PSP ever use it? That ratio doesn't even come close to making sense to me. Anyone have confirmation of it from a remotely official source?



address and phone numbers are considered public and Im not so sure about e-mails considering thats considered an adress on the web. I know if you use that for anything other than communicating with your friends its considered public... hell some companies sell e-mail addresses to other companies.

And as for your second bit I wouldnt be surprised if it was less. I have 5 accounts myself.



Is this Anonymous' fault? Everyone will hate them if it is.



Max King of the Wild said:



address and phone numbers are considered public and Im not so sure about e-mails considering thats considered an adress on the web. I know if you use that for anything other than communicating with your friends its considered public... hell some companies sell e-mail addresses to other companies.

And as for your second bit I wouldnt be surprised if it was less. I have 5 accounts myself.


Addresses and phone numbers are absolutely not considered public information. There is no obligation to disclose it, and no problem never revealing either to anyone. You can, with a few calls, make it to where no one outside of those you specifically inform have your mailing address or phone number. None of the above is true for public information. If I can easily prevent you from knowing something, and this is backed by government action then the information in question cannot be public. The public has no right to know it unless I choose to disclose it. Information being avaliable doesn't make it public. Personal information is the definition of private which is why it was secured to begin with.

So you think less than a third of consoles with PSN access ever use it? 118 million consoles in consumer hands, and only 35 million use it?



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...at least we have something to talk about till e3.. and we wouldn't had funny video's about it..



 

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NiKKoM said:

...at least we have something to talk about till e3.. and we wouldn't had funny video's about it..

LMAO that was funny



yo_john117 said:
NiKKoM said:

...at least we have something to talk about till e3.. and we wouldn't had funny video's about it..

LMAO that was funny

While I don't agree with the message, you are right, that was funny.  Lol, still love this one, too.



Max King of the Wild said:
Gnizmo said:
A203D said:
 

Yes i am aware of that. but what crime has been commited - theft of what?? the names of 35 mil people, which is considered public anyway - its not illegal to know this information. it could be illegal in the way the hackers have obtained this data.

we have no evidence to suggest the hackers were after credit card details. since no cc data was taken. even if it was, the information of your cc details is encrypted, and its not complete - does this mean even if hackers had our cc details they could use that information, since it is not complete??

there has been no comment from the person or persons responsible to confirm they wanted credit card details. why have they targeted PSN's credit card details?? have they targeted PSN's credit card database??

i'm not convinced this group were after cc details. and i think Sony have known that for the last few days. and i think this is why they took so long to notify customers. i think they want to use the panic induced by the media to legitimise whatever brutal tactics they have in store for hackers in the future.

and i dont think identity fraud can be commited without a legal document like a passport or drivers license. your cc isnt considered a proof of identity.

 


Name is public. Address, phone number, email, passwords, and other bits are decidedly not considered public. They are, in fact, the definition of private information in many conversations. You are absolutely wrong about the identity bit. The information stolen is more than sufficient to commit identity theft and credit card fraud. I could probably sign-up for a credit card in your name with less actually.

Also, what is with the 35 million number? I haven't read or heard anything to that effect before. Is the claim that there is an average of over 2 accounts per person for the PSN now? Does nobody on the PSP ever use it? That ratio doesn't even come close to making sense to me. Anyone have confirmation of it from a remotely official source?



address and phone numbers are considered public and Im not so sure about e-mails considering thats considered an adress on the web. I know if you use that for anything other than communicating with your friends its considered public... hell some companies sell e-mail addresses to other companies.

And as for your second bit I wouldnt be surprised if it was less. I have 5 accounts myself.

proud owner of:

2 american accounts

1 euro account

and 1 jap account



thismeintiel said:
yo_john117 said:
NiKKoM said:

...at least we have something to talk about till e3.. and we wouldn't had funny video's about it..

 

LMAO that was funny

While I don't agree with the message, you are right, that was funny.  Lol, still love this one, too.

 

Lolz, where do you guys find this gold?



How hard is it to quote someone correctly in a thread title, honestly?



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