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Kasz216 on 28 April 2011
Icyedge said:
Kasz216 said:
Icyedge said:
Gnizmo said:
 


I can name a thousand companies right now that are doing better. They haven't been hacked or had significant portions of data compromised. That automatically puts Sony behind them on the scale you are using. What gets me is everyone seems to assume these other companies got a pass on the same problem. You link news articles slamming the companies over the problem and yet tell people not to do the same with Sony? Why shouldn't they be held to the same standard? Sony also failed in one major one those other companies almost universally didn't. They told their users  the second it appeared the data could have been compromised. There is no excuse for sitting on that information for a week. None at all.

I damn near changed banks after an issue with a data leak that was far less serious. The only reason I stopped is they knew precisley who was potentially affected, informed me immediately and then took steps to make sure none of it came back to me. That is, any charges I contested would be instantly assumed fraudulent unless proven otherwise (not the status quo for debit cards by the by) and I would have no liability for anything potentially related to the mishap.


The big question in this case is does the other companies have thousands of hackers on their back :P. A company with the worst security ever, if they dont get attack, they arent going to leak any kind of informations.That doesnt automatically excuse Sony, an investigation is needed for sure.

Between, according to Sony, they did tell their users when it appear the data could have been compromised. An investigation is needed to determine whether they are lying or not. Personally, I dont understand why they wouldnt tell their users sooner if they knew sooner. But yeah its a possibility.

One issue may be... didn't they already lie?  They took down the servers because they were hacked... didn't they original say because of sporadic matinence or something like that?  (Or maybe i'm thinking of the anonomyous hack.)

Well, when you were trying to log on PSN it would say maintenance. But in their PR statement, they  said it was a maintenance due tu an intrusion and that they were also upgrading everything. With that said, I agree they should have been more explicative when it comes to the PSN message.

That raises the question... who reads PR messages.  I mean, another question is... did they even inform everybody?  The only reason I know is because of this website and online news.

Not everybody goes to videogame news sites... and Sony DOES have my email afterall.



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Icyedge on 28 April 2011
Double post


Icyedge on 28 April 2011
Kasz216 said:
Icyedge said:

Well, when you were trying to log on PSN it would say maintenance. But in their PR statement, they  said it was a maintenance due tu an intrusion and that they were also upgrading everything. With that said, I agree they should have been more explicative when it comes to the PSN message.

That raises the question... who reads PR messages.  I mean, another question is... did they even inform everybody?  The only reason I know is because of this website and online news.

Not everybody goes to videogame news sites... and Sony DOES have my email afterall.


I received and e-mail the 26, not you? I agree that not many reads PR messages, so yeah I think they should make it clearer in their PSN notice when you try to log.



Kasz216 on 28 April 2011
Icyedge said:
Kasz216 said:
Icyedge said:
 

Well, when you were trying to log on PSN it would say maintenance. But in their PR statement, they  said it was a maintenance due tu an intrusion and that they were also upgrading everything. With that said, I agree they should have been more explicative when it comes to the PSN message.

That raises the question... who reads PR messages.  I mean, another question is... did they even inform everybody?  The only reason I know is because of this website and online news.

Not everybody goes to videogame news sites... and Sony DOES have my email afterall.


I received and e-mail the 26, not you? I agree that not many reads PR messages, so yeah I think they should make it clearer in their PSN notice when you try to log.

Nope.

I went to check my email spam folder just in case... and amusingly, as if they had read this thread... I received an email... literally just now.  Wonder what was with the delay.



Solid_Raiden on 28 April 2011

I might be late in posting this, but to the OP. While I don't entirely disagree with you, your argument is weak. It's basically the equivalent of saying if I go out and shoot someone, it's mostly the law's fault and not my own because they didn't have enough safe barriers up to keep me from doing so.

I'm not saying that Sony didn't drop the ball, they obviously did. But this would have never been a problem if not for some amoral asshole hacker and I think my hatred is much more suited being towad him.




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fordy on 28 April 2011
imaprettyhotguy said:

You think all statements from Sony are facts lol


That statement right there makes it sound like you're defending Sony more than what Sony itself is doing.



Kasz216 on 28 April 2011
fordy said:
imaprettyhotguy said:

You think all statements from Sony are facts lol


That statement right there makes it sound like you're defending Sony more than what Sony itself is doing.


Actually that statement right there makes it sound like he's attacking sony.  Which is funny when your only defense for why a company didn't screw up so bad is "They may be lieing".



Icyedge on 29 April 2011
Kasz216 said:
Icyedge said:
Kasz216 said:
Icyedge said:
 

Well, when you were trying to log on PSN it would say maintenance. But in their PR statement, they  said it was a maintenance due tu an intrusion and that they were also upgrading everything. With that said, I agree they should have been more explicative when it comes to the PSN message.

That raises the question... who reads PR messages.  I mean, another question is... did they even inform everybody?  The only reason I know is because of this website and online news.

Not everybody goes to videogame news sites... and Sony DOES have my email afterall.


I received and e-mail the 26, not you? I agree that not many reads PR messages, so yeah I think they should make it clearer in their PSN notice when you try to log.

Nope.

I went to check my email spam folder just in case... and amusingly, as if they had read this thread... I received an email... literally just now.  Wonder what was with the delay.


LOL, such irony, its amusing. I think they said somewhere it was a long process to send the e-mails to all the account, maybe it explain the delay.



Galaki on 01 May 2011
Icyedge said:
Kasz216 said:

Nope.

I went to check my email spam folder just in case... and amusingly, as if they had read this thread... I received an email... literally just now.  Wonder what was with the delay.


LOL, such irony, its amusing. I think they said somewhere it was a long process to send the e-mails to all the account, maybe it explain the delay.

They need to hire a spammer to handle their email queues.



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pizzahut451 on 01 May 2011

At least we can all agree that the freedom fighters are never responsible and guilty for anything. Its not like they hacked the network.