vlad321 said:
Reponse with, and I quote, "No." That was it. You STILL fail to realize that there is utterly overwhelming evidence it takes a man and a woman to have a child, therefore the burden of proof of "god did it" falls to you. Same with people doing dumb shit between the ages of 12 and 30, so the burden of proof falls to YOU, not me. You have utterly zero evidence besides what was written in a book, by a human, abiout what was said, by a few humans. The stupidity comes from the whole fact that you don't realize that "you have no proof of the opposite" does not apply to this, because extreme proof of the oppostie. So I guess all the historic evidence describing Jesus Christ as sinless or moraly perfect person isnt good enough? Lots of roman and greek hsitorical texts and councels described him as an amazing and pure soul, unlike any other man. And if Jesus Christ was comcepted like a normal human, with an intercourse between a man and a woman or was he born by a virgin and like son of God is irrelevant because neither doesnt make his morals any less correct and rigteous, which was the point of our discussion, which you seem to forget/ignore and just focuse on your standard insults and disrespect. Why dont you just read this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Jesus
Somehow "everyone knows about Jesus" is proper evidence. That is laughably stupid as well. Failure to realize "god is timeless" doesn't mean that god just alwasy existed. Where did this timelessness come from? Also if he is omniscient, you fail to realize that the whole shit about "free will" is laughable to him and utterly pointless. Unless he is omniscient but can't see what choices people make, in which case he isn't any more omniscient than you or me. wut? ''where did timelessness come from'' wow, thats quite a question. God didnt come from anywhere, he's always been in the existance. As for omniscience, God can see what choices people make, and probaly knows how would those choices effect people, but he doesnt intervene with the choices people make, and as such, people can always change what happens in the future or what happens to them, and that is free will. God's plan is about us having free will. I guess im coming off as a desit here (and lately, I am starting idenitfy myself as one) but its true, God can look at the future but its us (humans, people) who are making it
Because it is hard to debunk made up stories. The burden of proof lies with whoever claims facts are true, not the opposite. What made up stories? Jesus Christ isnt made, he is real .But you cant call anything made up until you actually have proof its made up. You can say ''its not worth the belief'' but you cant call it false until you have proof. Your imagination, or lack there of, is failing. All you basically stated was A or ~A. Well no fuckign shit does A or ~A fill the entire range of possibilities. Your lack of imagination comes in the fact you don't realize just how unimaginably huge ~A is compared to A. It's liek saying, All the real numbers are 1, or NOT 1. Well no shit Thats all I've been arguing about - that either Theism or Atheism are wrong as if God either created the universe or something else did (the unknow laws nature of physics),but to be honest, God is the best, easiest, most reasonable explanation for the creation of the universe asof now. But both ahtiesm and theism of them cant be wrong at the same time, and that was my whole point. |