I get the feeling that Ninty is gonna do something that will piss a lotta techies off and use 2007 tech; that won't be much better than the PS3.

The console's gonna be $300 and get a crazy profit margin; 3rd parties still won't support it- they'll find another excuse to abandon it. After 15 years of giving ninty the cold console shoulder, what are the odds of it changing?

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ps3 and 360 are 5 years old, its easy to have a console that is more powerfull as tech always improves, so theres no doubt nintendos console will be more powerful if they are to take back core crowd. what is worrying what happens to the wii i bought it on launch and theres words going around of a replacement, just that point makes ps3 and 360 better investments in hindsight

It's a two-track thing. We can't underestimate the fact that Sony swooped in and started a new era of third party dominance as undermining the N64, but also that Nintendo got trapped in parallel thinking with the rest of the industry, or at least bound enough to parallel thinking that they couldn't really spread their wings and do what they needed to do.

While some advocate the position that it was the decline in quality of NIntendo's studios that produced N64 and GameCube sales, and the rebound that produced Wii sales, there is merit to courting third parties, certainly. Equally there is merit to courting the media in the short term, to play them as the hype machine they are. Pandering to the media is quite impossible in Nintendo's case without betraying their true values utterly, but they can string them along and get some positive buzz going.

The ground has shifted under the third parties, and once again they need the hardware makers more than the hardware makers need them, so long as hardware makers are willing to meet them halfway on tech specs. Nintendo can meet those tech specs handily enough now, and thus can lock third party parity

The question is if Nintendo can retain their Wii-level first-party dominance, and they can secure strongholds across the market.

All those rumors are merely wishful thinking... in the end, the next Nintendo console will be radically different than this "hope for the hopeless" topic that keeps the Nintendo section on this site alive given that the Wii has no games coming out for it right now.

Lol, blu ray and HD 1080p screens on your controller. Come on, people. Somebody even made a saparate forum about that crap. Go there.

I believe them except for the controller, a controller like that with a built in screen would cost almost as much as the system itself, if not more so that will not happen. But Blu-Ray is a possibility and I think its pretty much a given that it will be more powerful than 5-6 year old consoles, it would be sad if it wasn't.

Yeah... Mini-DVD was a failed product they made their own.

Like I said.

How many Mini-DVDs do you see around?

Here's what I see. Nintendo's next console will obviously be at least as powerful as the HD twins cuz that tech is 5-6 years old now. i don't believe the controllers with the hd screens at all cuz that would make each controller cost at least $100 bucks and use up way too much battery.

Nintendo is either gonna go with a $250 console w/ a game included that has power equal to ps360 with vastly upgraded motion controls and also support a standard controller too. it will improve its online content to a reasonable level and start off its life by getting new advanced motion control games as well as ps360 ports. this however i think is a poor option cuz it would basically be an advanced motion control hd twin. and while cheap it would not stand up to the other two nextgen consoles when they would come out a year or two later, and nintendo would again miss out on the majority of multiplatform ports and 3rd party support.

i think we are getting to the point where graphics don't need to be anymore detailed than they are in the best ps3 games in terms of the # of polygons and the detail of the textures, however, there is still a lot of room for improvement in the dynamics of whats going on onscreen, such as physics stuff, special effects, "living-world" effects like believable vegetation, animation, AI, as well as more processing power to include more on screen not in detail but for example in war games you could include hundreds of soldiers on screen at once so entire battles could take place on screen, also just larger open environments.

But this is what i think is the most likely and most profitable thing to do:

So now that gamers are used to the high price point thanks to sony and microsoft, and with the nextgen nintendo system coming out a year or two before the other two, nintendo can bring out a new system noticeable more powerful than the HDtwins, say 10 times more powerful, and the games could have much more lush dynamic environments. all games would be 1080p. they could still get ports from ps360 games while having their own supply of more advanced games. this would shift more 3rd party support to nintendo than they are used to. and as said above they would have advanced motion controls, i see some combination of the kinect style camera recognition motion controls combined with advanced controller-based motion controls. ideally they will have figured out a way to make the two separate left and righthand motion controllers in a way so that you can connect them together and use them as a standard controller for the games that would work better with a standard controller and that way not also have to make people purchase standard controllers (i think this will be a big issue for next gen consoles cuz people are not gonna wanna spend $50 for each of two different kinds of controllers), although i have no idea how possible this is. as above they will finally get a good online setup. If they garner good 3rd party support and release big 1st party titles in the first 2 years before the other two nextgen consoles come out they will have a significant advantage. I'd see this Wii2 coming out at $350 and when the ps4 and xboxNext come out they could drop down to $300 while those two systems will probably release at $400 and they will continue to have an advantage.

I'm still boggled that we're having this discussion. Blu-Ray means "Blu-Ray knockoff," simple as that.

(not directed at you, just the fact that this has evolved into a whole thing when the answer is pretty predictable on this one)

Yeah and... yeah I agree.  It will be something "off the beaten path" that won't count for royalty purposes as always.  Cause that's how Nintendo roles.

I GUESS..