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BenVTrigger on 22 April 2011
CGI-Quality said:
BenVTrigger said:
MikeB said:

@ Aldro

Not only that, technically Uncharted 1: Drake's Fortune had better lighting, anti-aliasing, higher quality textures and higher polygon counts. It's general art style was more appealing to me, such as Drake vs Markus character design.

Of course, I understand Gears of War 2 has a certain cool-factor amongst many XBox fans and it's still a very good looking game.



I've played the shit out of Uncharted: Drake's Fortune.

And it in no aspect is better looking that Gears of War.  It just isn't.  Its a beautiful game sure, but is nowhere near current standards inlcuding Gears 2. 

Actually he's got a point (and quite a bit of reviews agreed). Uncharted 1 did have smoother aliasing and less frame drops than Gears 1, not to mention higher detailed textures, better water effects, and higher polygon character models. Lighting was a toss up, and Uncharted had more screen tearing, but overall, Uncharted 1 etched Gears 1 out on a technical level.

Gears 2 changed the game, and even though Uncharted still beat it in charatcer models, Gears 2 got overall more respect visually. Of course Uncharted 2 put to rest any debate about Gears vs Uncharted visually, but that's irrelevant.

I don't care about technical terms and all this stuff people throw around to be perfectly honest.  A game can have 1 million polys and it can be ugly as hell.

Gears 2 is a better looking game than Uncharted.  By quite a bit.



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BenVTrigger on 22 April 2011
CGI-Quality said:
BenVTrigger said:
CGI-Quality said:
BenVTrigger said:
MikeB said:

@ Aldro

Not only that, technically Uncharted 1: Drake's Fortune had better lighting, anti-aliasing, higher quality textures and higher polygon counts. It's general art style was more appealing to me, such as Drake vs Markus character design.

Of course, I understand Gears of War 2 has a certain cool-factor amongst many XBox fans and it's still a very good looking game.



I've played the shit out of Uncharted: Drake's Fortune.

And it in no aspect is better looking that Gears of War.  It just isn't.  Its a beautiful game sure, but is nowhere near current standards inlcuding Gears 2. 

Actually he's got a point (and quite a bit of reviews agreed). Uncharted 1 did have smoother aliasing and less frame drops than Gears 1, not to mention higher detailed textures, better water effects, and higher polygon character models. Lighting was a toss up, and Uncharted had more screen tearing, but overall, Uncharted 1 etched Gears 1 out on a technical level.

Gears 2 changed the game, and even though Uncharted still beat it in charatcer models, Gears 2 got overall more respect visually. Of course Uncharted 2 put to rest any debate about Gears vs Uncharted visually, but that's irrelevant.

I don't care about technical terms and all this stuff people throw around to be perfectly honest.  A game can have 1 million polys and it can be ugly as hell.

Gears 2 is a better looking game than Uncharted.  By quite a bit.

You initially said Gears of War, not Gears 2. Nevertheless, I agree with Gears 2, as made evident in my post. As for technical stuff, whether you don't care for it or not, that plays a factor when determining a games visuals. Personal opinions are fine, but the tech stuff isn't based on opinion. And frankly, Uncharted 1 was anything but ugly.

Either way, if I misunderstood, you have my apologies.

1.  His comparison was between Gears of War 2 and Unchrarted 1.  He claimed UC1 was better looking than Gears 2.  Obviously when I respond Gears looks better its using the two games he originally compared, Gears 2 and Uncharted Drake's Fortune.

2.  When did I ever in any way, shape, or form insinuate that Drake Fortune was ugly?  I directly said and I quote, "It's a beautiful looking game for sure."



BenVTrigger on 22 April 2011
CGI-Quality said:
BenVTrigger said:

1.  His comparison was between Gears of War 2 and Unchrarted 1.  He claimed UC1 was better looking than Gears 2.  Obviously when I respond Gears looks better its using the two games he originally compared, Gears 2 and Uncharted Drake's Fortune.

2.  When did I ever in any way, shape, or form insinuate that Drake Fortune was ugly?  I directly said and I quote, "It's a beautiful looking game for sure."

Again, in your intial post, you said Gears of War in one area then Gears 2 in another. The mishap is understandable.

Also, I didn't say you called Drake's Fortune ugly, I insinuated that the analogy didn't work there (as in it's not ugly, not accusing you of calling it that).

It's a simple misunderstanding of words and I agree with your overall point of Gears 2 > Uncharted 1. So chillax.

Understandable, its all good.

MikeB's posting style just frustrates me sometimes is all so my bad.



MikeB on 23 April 2011

@ BenVTrigger

 

> I don't care about technical terms and all this stuff people throw around to be perfectly honest.

Sorry, but if you want to use subjective metrics, then I find Markus and his team of oversized bodybuilder space marines quite repulsive. There's no way I can self-identify with such characters.

Basically I know I am certainly not alone at this. Ask just about any female and they usually think in a quite similar manner. I think it's mostly amongst many adolescent/teenage males that are most attracted to characters like Markus and story telling as found in Gears of War.



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Booh! on 23 April 2011

This late discussion is funny. Many people on this site (and elsewhere tbh) said that GeoW2 was graphically a step back from the original Gears of War.

And now Uncharted is certainly better than Gears of War but not better than Gears of War 2.



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Doobie_wop on 23 April 2011

People really have to go back and play Gears of War 2, I love the game, but come on, most of the multi-platform games from 2008 and up have easily surpassed it. It wasn't a huge step up from Gears of War 1, which was a great looking game in 2006, but not so much in 2008, especially when it's stacked up against MGS4, Dead Space, Uncharted and Killzone 2, which was only released a few months later. I added it to my list just so it wouldn't be so slanted, but I could easily find 10 more games that look better or as good as it and they would have all been released within a year of it.



Bet with Conegamer and AussieGecko that the PS3 will have more exclusives in 2011 than the Wii or 360... or something.

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jhuff394 on 23 April 2011

This is a great article... RANKS THE GRAPHICS DEAD ON (Killzone 3/Uncharted 2 could be flopped in some viewers eyes..)

Oh and I hope this was excluding sports MLB 10 THE SHOW is so freakin realistic its almost wierd, countless times people have walked in asking me if the Indians game was on lol.

 

Cant wait for Uncharted 3... Naughty Dog is all set up for the kill this holiday season... Now its all about executing..

I'm sure we all have some kind of idea of the graphics in Uncharted 3, but somehow I have a feeling we have no idea what we are truly about to see.



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Oblivion86 on 23 April 2011
MikeB said:

@ CGI-Quality

I don't agree:

http://kineticninja.blogspot.com/2009/01/naughty-dog-realtime-graphics-and_31.html

Technically Gears of War 2 really shows its age in comparison with the best graphics this gen and personally I dislike the character models (especially as in art style).

I am not saying it's a horrible looking game and maybe not the worst looking one in this list, but I even consider one of your favourites, Heavy Rain, to top this head & shoulders in terms of graphics and that didn't make the list.


Gears 2 IMO deserves a spot above KZ2, because of it's art style, direction, and character models.. It is one of the smoothest games of this gen.. Meanwhile KZ2 has clunky textures, mono-palette scheme, and some awful pop-ins, so yeah..



Oblivion86 on 23 April 2011
CGI-Quality said:
Oblivion86 said:
MikeB said:

@ CGI-Quality

I don't agree:

http://kineticninja.blogspot.com/2009/01/naughty-dog-realtime-graphics-and_31.html

Technically Gears of War 2 really shows its age in comparison with the best graphics this gen and personally I dislike the character models (especially as in art style).

I am not saying it's a horrible looking game and maybe not the worst looking one in this list, but I even consider one of your favourites, Heavy Rain, to top this head & shoulders in terms of graphics and that didn't make the list.


Gears 2 IMO deserves a spot above KZ2, because of it's art style, direction, and character models.. It is one of the smoothest games of this gen.. Meanwhile KZ2 has clunky textures, mono-palette scheme, and some awful pop-ins, so yeah..

Your opinion is fine, but Killzone 2 didn't have any pop-in (which is ironic since Gears 2 did) and I've never heard of "clunky" textures.


clunky meaning disportional or odd looking.. I noticed quite a number of pop-ins in the later levels, never did I notice one in GoW2 SP, that is just my experience..

 

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/949/949161p2.html

"That being said, there are still some technical issues that crop up here and there. There are a number of low resolution shadows that pop up on environments and character models, particularly when they're talking, which can detract from the action that's going on. The same can be said for the texture pop-in that will snap into view, frequently on camera pans of a location. Add to this some of the aliasing and even the grain filters, which give the game depth but are also a double-edged sword because it almost feels like they're overused in some areas."



gurglesletch on 23 April 2011
Doobie_wop said:
Oblivion86 said:
XxXProphecyXxX said:
Oblivion86 said:
XxXProphecyXxX said:

Right now my list would be:

1.God of war 3

2.Killzone 3

3.Uncharted 2

4.Killzone 2

5.Crysis 2

special mentions to HEAVY RAIN,BATTLE FIELD  2 and UNCHARTED 1.

I know that my list will definitly change once UNCHARTED 3,LAST GUARDIAN and probly INFAMOUS 2 drops, can't wait!!!

ALSO:

LOL @ the guy who keeps saying CODE NAME KINGDOMS will say "bye bye to sony 1st party games",we don't even have a single screen shot from that game AHAHAHAHAH!

Killzone 2 is in no way shape or form even close to Crysis 2, please drop that comparison.. It is on par or slightly better then Killzone 3. Using a huge color palette it is alot more difficult to make things look sharp and crisp, rather then going the mono-brown approach that the Killzone series has always used. In terms of scale Crysis 2 blows everything away, but in terms of detail, textures, and lighting only UC2 is slightly better.

Uhhh I have both games on my ps3 and finished both so please spare me the "mono -brown is easier" excuse because I've seen both with my OWN EYES.

So have I, played through both KZ2 and KZ3.. I am giving you reasoning as to why it is "lazy" developing doing a mono-palette, nobody is going to deny that Killzone uses a mono-palette to shade their games. Just my personal opinion, but in no way is KZ2 on the level that C2 is at.

You'd have to also take into consideration that Crysis 2 barely runs in comparison to Killzone 2. One is 720p, a constant 30FPS, lacks bugs and has great looking character models, while the other has some serious pop in issues, the framerate drops to as low as 15FPS, ugly looking enemy character models and has some bugs.

I personally think Crysis 2 looks better than Killzone 3, but the visual issues it's suffers from can only make them equal in my personal list. Sure Killzone 2 is brown, but it's also flawless in it's visual execution, the same can't be said for Crysis 2.

It's all opinions anyway, you may think that a darker colour palette hurts the visuals more than a bunch of technical issues, I think otherwise, it's all cool.

Neither run at a constant 30. 




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