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instead of making yet another thread to show off your entilist view on third party games why not buy the system that has the games you want?  it is not the job of a third party to create markets.  third parties look at the markets and create games to cater to that audience. 

how can you complain when a third party creates yet another minigame based games for nintendo's console when nintendo has published more than 10 minigame based games?

how can you complain when a third party creates yet another FPS/3rdPS for the ps360 instead of wii when nintendo has made one modestly successful metroid compared to MS's halo and gears major successes, and sony's resisteance, killzone, uncharted for good successes?

on each of the consoles third parties have put out games that mirror the types of games first party is developing.   either live with it and stop complaining or do like i did and move to the console that has the games you want.



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"If it can use the next generation Unreal engine, publishers will undoubtedly give it at least above average support."

Although Epic will likely claim it can't without even looking at it.

"Sarcasm my friend...."

Okay, I'll just leave it at it was lost on me.

"instead of making yet another thread to show off your entilist view on third party games why not buy the system that has the games you want?"

That just supports their elitist view by saying they get to dictate what the public buys, not the public dicates what they buy.

And you're confusing this for personal wants, when this is principle.



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I don't need 3rd party games on the next system, but I guess that they'd be nice. To be honest though, I reckon that we'll be getting a lot of PS360 ports for a while, and the 3rd parties use the excuse that they're "testing" the market.



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radishhead said:

I don't need 3rd party games on the next system, but I guess that they'd be nice. To be honest though, I reckon that we'll be getting a lot of PS360 ports for a while, and the 3rd parties use the excuse that they're "testing" the market.

Aye, and then when people don't buy their shoddily-coded, features-stripped, motion-shoehorned, full-price ports of 1-4 year old games, they'll complain, abandon the system, and we'll be back to sweet normalcy :)



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you cant expect the same quality game with considerably lower hardware specifications and that will impact sales to a certain extent.

wii2 will have the lead for a year or two (in terms of hardware power) but that time wont be worth investing in since it will have a low install base. 3rd party developers would rather just make 360/ps3 (100m install base) ports for wii2 until ps4/x720 comes out.

being first to release a next gen console has both advantages and disadvantages.



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fps_d0minat0r said:

you cant expect the same quality game with considerably lower hardware specifications and that will impact sales to a certain extent.

wii2 will have the lead for a year or two (in terms of hardware power) but that time wont be worth investing in since it will have a low install base. 3rd party developers would rather just make 360/ps3 (100m install base) ports for wii2 until ps4/x720 comes out.

being first to release a next gen console has both advantages and disadvantages.


That's why I say if they do that, they can go you-know-where, since it shows they wouldn't support Nintendo properly no matter what, or the public in the event the system still outsells those later systems.



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LordTheNightKnight said:
fps_d0minat0r said:

you cant expect the same quality game with considerably lower hardware specifications and that will impact sales to a certain extent.

wii2 will have the lead for a year or two (in terms of hardware power) but that time wont be worth investing in since it will have a low install base. 3rd party developers would rather just make 360/ps3 (100m install base) ports for wii2 until ps4/x720 comes out.

being first to release a next gen console has both advantages and disadvantages.


That's why I say if they do that, they can go you-know-where, since it shows they wouldn't support Nintendo properly no matter what, or the public in the event the system still outsells those later systems.


thats correct, as long as nintendo keep producing hardware which isnt as powerful as its competitors, it will get inferior versions of games (if any at all). its an obvisous fact. you cant expect the same quality game with half the hardware no matter how much time or money you throw at it.

If nintendo's next system is as powerful as the next xbox or ps3, i would bet my life it would get identical versions of multiplatform games.



LordTheNightKnight said:

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"instead of making yet another thread to show off your entilist view on third party games why not buy the system that has the games you want?"

That just supports their elitist view by saying they get to dictate what the public buys, not the public dicates what they buy.

And you're confusing this for personal wants, when this is principle.

except that the public did decided what they want.  the top selling 3rd party games are: just dance 2, just dance, guitar hero, lego star wars, ea active, carnival games...

nintendo's core oriented games (metroid, sin and punishment) aren't even in the top 50 best sellers.  third parties did slightly better (CoD, monster hunter, RE4) but no where near the numbers that the ps3 can produce.

it is your elitist view of what the wii audience wants that makes you sound so whiny.  wii had more 3rd party exclusive then either other platform.  but you don't care about that because you're cherry picking the list just to the kind of support you want.

fact: the wii and the ps360 consumer markets are different.  the difference in market is due to nintendo creating hardware/software/marketing that was targeted drastically different than what the ps360 did.  3rd parties responded by trying to make games for the market nintendo created.  deal with it and stop complaining.



Gojimaster said:

Don't worry, Nintendo will get flooded with 360/PS3 ports on their next console and lots of remakes too.  Kind of like how 3DS is getting flooded with ports too.


pretty much this i guess



LordTheNightKnight said:

"If it can use the next generation Unreal engine, publishers will undoubtedly give it at least above average support."

Although Epic will likely claim it can't without even looking at it.

What the hell are you talking about?

1. Why would Epic claim it can't if it can? A Nintendo console built up to support it can obviously support it, hence why I said they should do it. The Engine doesn't need to be tailor made per each console. Developers will tweak it where necessary.

2. It's not even up to Epic. The Unreal Engine is a gaming engine that any third party developer can use, so it's up to all of them to decide whether to use it on the Wii or not.

You're being negative just for the sake of it.



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