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Yea I think our foreign policy and hatred of the USA is part of the reason but the main reason is Microsoft. People in Europe and Japan just hate that company because of the way they monopolize the operating systems on all the PCs and they dont want microsoft to do the same to the gaming industry.



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cctaximan said:
Yea I think our foreign policy and hatred of the USA is part of the reason but the main reason is Microsoft. People in Europe and Japan just hate that company because of the way they monopolize the operating systems on all the PCs and they dont want microsoft to do the same to the gaming industry.

 That's exactly my views on the issue.  Microsoft might be playing nice now in the gaming industry, but when you look at their operating systems and Office applications, they are not so nice because of the amount of control they have in the industry.  If they had total control in the gaming industry, a $600 pricetag for PS3 at launch will look very nice, and 3 year warranty to fix the RRODs?  what's the motivation.

 

I don't mind the Xbox 360 and Microsoft and I'm enjoying a few of the games (minus the shooter, which is about 90% of its good library), but I do want to see them have to deal with proper amounts of competition.  



"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."  --Hermann Goering, leading Nazi party member, at the Nuremberg War Crime Trials 

 

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I still find it hard to understand how console sales differ per region. I always thought things were universal, and that they only differ per individual, not region. Well, that kind of supports the stereo-typical, at a certain point of view, doesn't it?



Packet said:
Xbox not helped by it's "ethnicity"? No. But the Xbox 360 is not helped by: * The never before seen hardware failure problems * The disc scratching/destroying drives * The absurdly loud 12x DVD drive * The 50 dollar a year online charges that end up adding 250 dollars to the price of the console over 5 years * The gimped smaller than last gen 7 gig DVD drive * The lack of dedicated servers for online games * The shockingly bad game graphics with Halo 3,Forza 2, PGR3,Mass Effect... * The lack a library of games the 125+ million PS2 and 23 million GameCube owners bought their systems for last gen like: Final Fantasy,Metal Gear Solid, Mario, Zelda, Gran Turismo, Ratchet and Clank, Jak and Daxster, Team ICO, SOCOM, Killzone, Singstar, etc.

LOL, just because a few exclusive games are not "awe" inspiring graphic sluts doesnt mean they cant look good, if you knowtice these "shockling" bad graphic games are some of the highest rated this gen.

O also games like COD 4 and AC say hi, since graphics cant be good on 360.

Considering every console has problems i have no idea why you list them, the online crap could be said about how ps3 and wii have inferior online, blue ray shoved down their throats, or non hd gaming.

Lack of library? You do understand that the 360 has quite a deverse lineup?

FF-LO, ES, BD and whatever

MG-Splinter cell

Mario-ehh no one can match deh mario =D (platformers banjo)

zelda- heh i like zelda to much as well

gran turismo-PGR forza

the rest of your games i laugh at...........just ehh



                 With regard to Call of Duty 4 having an ultra short single player campaign, I guess it may well have been due to the size limitations of DVD on the XBox 360, one of various limitations multi-platform game designers will have to take into consideration-Mike B   

Proud supporter of all 3 console companys

Proud owner of 360wii and DS/psp              

Game trailers-Halo 3 only dissapointed the people who wanted to be dissapointed.

Bet with Harvey Birdman that Lost Odyssey will sell more then Blue dragon did.
europe-asia-hate-usa said:
white devil said:
This is fucking idiotic. If that's the case, I suppose nobody should be buying any European products right? Europeans have pretty much caused the most pain, suffering, rape and death in the last half millennium, and America is the bad guy? Hell, lets look at some of the wars and their causes. The ENTIRE Middle East situation stems from a colonial division of the region following WWI called the Treaty of Sevres that the Brits and French oh so wisely took part in. We got stuck in Vietnam because the idiot French tried to reclaim their former colonies who were not having any of it, we had to bail them out, and then they start crying about the evils of America being in Vietnam. I won't argue that America has done alot of dick head stuff following WW2, but I hate having European nations bitch at us about world problems, most of which they caused, then handed over to us, cleaned their hands of it and retreated into their shells behind the American led NATO in the hopes that the Soviets wouldn't invade them.

Apologies for my anti-hypocrites in Europe rant, but in any case, videogames sales have nothing to do with nationality and every thing to do with brand image and content, as well as price.

Thing is Europe has been "good" since WW2 while the USA has been the ass of the world. It's the present that matters not the past and in the present the USA is the one causing crap worldwide. Beyond simply causing wars the usa being the foremost christain and hyporitical nation with its media obsession andsky high porn viewer and cheating rates, one of the educationally dumbest countries and sly countries in the world (cia anyone) doesn't help either. It;s the present that matters not the past. Had I lived in 1944 I'd hate europe too but right now it's 2007.


THe past wont just go away......

If you like list your country i will dig into it, that or if you like ill dig into europe itself

i can play these games.



                 With regard to Call of Duty 4 having an ultra short single player campaign, I guess it may well have been due to the size limitations of DVD on the XBox 360, one of various limitations multi-platform game designers will have to take into consideration-Mike B   

Proud supporter of all 3 console companys

Proud owner of 360wii and DS/psp              

Game trailers-Halo 3 only dissapointed the people who wanted to be dissapointed.

Bet with Harvey Birdman that Lost Odyssey will sell more then Blue dragon did.
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Why is it that through this thread, no one has actually mentioned that this is not Ethnicity, but Nationality?

And if Europeans really do feel that way, then I have one thing to say to them.

CONGRATULATIONS HYPOCRITES! You've become the very thing you've been accusing us of being, cause you actually buy the bullshit that the media is spouting out at you.



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Grey Acumen said:
Why is it that through this thread, no one has actually mentioned that this is not Ethnicity, but Nationality?

And if Europeans really do feel that way, then I have one thing to say to them.

CONGRATULATIONS HYPOCRITES! You've become you've become the very thing you've been accusing us of being, cause you actually buy the bullshit that the media is spouting out at you.

Win

You sir deserve a cookie!



                 With regard to Call of Duty 4 having an ultra short single player campaign, I guess it may well have been due to the size limitations of DVD on the XBox 360, one of various limitations multi-platform game designers will have to take into consideration-Mike B   

Proud supporter of all 3 console companys

Proud owner of 360wii and DS/psp              

Game trailers-Halo 3 only dissapointed the people who wanted to be dissapointed.

Bet with Harvey Birdman that Lost Odyssey will sell more then Blue dragon did.

This thread is... i'm leaving



Melissa said:
llewdebkram said:
Apparently they call America Online 'AOL' so the reference to America is not obvious.

That's not true. It's just easier to brand. Are you telling me "Kentucky Fried Chicken" started calling themselves "KFC" so that the reference to chicken wasn't so obvious?


That is just about the worst comparison you could have made as far as trying to prove your point, because Kentucky Fried Chicken changed their name to KFC in 1991 so the reference to "Fried" wasn't so obvious...

KFC shuns 'fried' image with new name - Kentucky Fried Chicken has changed its name to KFC



We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that they [developers] want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so the question is what do you do for the rest of the nine and half years? It's a learning process. - SCEI president Kaz Hirai

It's a virus where you buy it and you play it with your friends and they're like, "Oh my God that's so cool, I'm gonna go buy it." So you stop playing it after two months, but they buy it and they stop playing it after two months but they've showed it to someone else who then go out and buy it and so on. Everyone I know bought one and nobody turns it on. - Epic Games president Mike Capps

We have a real culture of thrift. The goal that I had in bringing a lot of the packaged goods folks into Activision about 10 years ago was to take all the fun out of making video games. - Activision CEO Bobby Kotick

 

darendt said:
Since when is the 360 made in America. Its a US company, but not much is actually made here. That said, its pretty sad that our idiot president.....that bought his way into office......has made the American image this bad. Its to the point I would rather just say i'm canadian. From listening to people outside of the US, it seems the general perception is that we are a bunch of war hungry rednecks. While in the middle states that may hold true to an extent, its far from the countries overall attitude. Our system is just flaud, and the greed has made it impossible to make changes for the good. We are also apparently too scared to impeach the moron at the helm.....not that it would make much difference as his smarter idiot Cheney would replace him. I just hope our next president isnt a religious freak hell bent on world domination like this one. Then and only then can this country start to re-build its reputation in a positive light.

HA! You can tell right away when someone is actively involved in the politics of their country by the way they feel about their people in power. First and foremost, Bush, as much of a horrible image that he has for some of his decision he made cannot be completely blamed for our image. That's why we have a "senate" that is actually in control of the decisions of the people. If you actually cared to vote (which I'm assuming you don't) you would know that EVERYONE in this coutry is at fault for the image of our country. But the way I see it is more like we are actually pretty content with the way our country is going and for its decisions cuz otherwise we would not be electing our senators to make these decisions for us. If the country really wanted to impeach president Bush then we would vote the people to do that but guess what, we don't!

 

Yea I think our foreign policy and hatred of the USA is part of the reason but the main reason is Microsoft. People in Europe and Japan just hate that company because of the way they monopolize the operating systems on all the PCs and they dont want microsoft to do the same to the gaming industry.

LOL @ that. I'm tired of seeing Microsoft being blamed for monopolizing the PC market. It's not Microsoft fault's that they made a product that is easier to use than Linux or Mac. I personally hate both of them and I'm very happy with my Vista OP. Its simple and gets what I need done done fast. Am I supposed to learn how to use those 2 other systems just to help Microsoft become less rich? Heck no! And in reality, look what Apple is doing. They only sell their OP on their computers! That looks like a monopoly to me if you ask me! And unlike Sony, Microsoft is not coming with a way to monopolize the video industry with their own propetary blu-ray technology. They are just as power hungry for money and nothing else! 

 



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