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kitler53 on 16 April 2011
Mr Khan said:
kitler53 said:

i don't want to put too much thought into this cause this is all just rumors and speculation at this point...but i'm failing to see who would want to buy a wii HD at this point.

so yes, the multiplats that the ps360 get could appear on this nintendo console.  i and 100ish M others already have a ps360.  wii only owners could upgrade i suppose but if i were an upgrader and the wii HD cost the same or more than the ps360 i'd go with the consoles with a gigantic back catalog instead of the one with only a few game.

which basically means nintendo has to have another "gimmick" to distinguish itself.  if the vitality sensor and the 3DS's current sales are anything to go by -- finding that gimmick that makes the entire market excited for a product isn't all that simple or assured.  can nintendo do it again?

...and if nintendo overshoots the ps360 i'm not sure publishers would follow nintendo -- not without MS and sony also joining so third parties can release multi-plats instead of exclusives.  

i just don't know ... i wouldn't want to have to make the choices nintendo has to make at this point.

I won't deny it's an uphill fight, but Nintendo can be up to the task, so long as they bring the same A-game they brought to the Wii early on, and bring it consistently. With third party parity and their ability to corner the casual market, plus powerful multi-appeal first party titles, the only legitimate threats that would stand in their way are the behemoth of Halo and the service of Xbox Live, and Xbox Live  could easily lose its advantage in a console transition, so long as Nintendo's online service is adequate enough that people can easily play with their friends (though i doubt Nintendo will be aggressive enough to make Live irrelevent, they could, because Live is dependent on the "all my friends have it so i should get it," effect, and in a console transition, that factor becomes a nonissue)

but right now nintendo appears to be the only one in transition and they are apparently transitioning to the same level that ps360 are already at hardware horsepower-wise.  to me that means nintendo has everything to loose with not much room for gain.  what is going to motivate any ps360 owners to buy this new nintendo console if 95% of the console's library is multiplats that are already on the console they already own.

i mean, i might by it cause i'm a sucker for video games and all.  but for the masses, nintendo is going to have to come up with one hell of a killer app to get them to be mult-current gen console owners.

i don't know ... maybe i'm being to pessimistic.  personally i think you're too optimistic. i think i'm just going to fall back on my first point -- until nintendo actually shows their hand we're just speculating which doesn't really mean much.



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Mr Khan on 16 April 2011
kitler53 said:
Mr Khan said:
kitler53 said:

i don't want to put too much thought into this cause this is all just rumors and speculation at this point...but i'm failing to see who would want to buy a wii HD at this point.

so yes, the multiplats that the ps360 get could appear on this nintendo console.  i and 100ish M others already have a ps360.  wii only owners could upgrade i suppose but if i were an upgrader and the wii HD cost the same or more than the ps360 i'd go with the consoles with a gigantic back catalog instead of the one with only a few game.

which basically means nintendo has to have another "gimmick" to distinguish itself.  if the vitality sensor and the 3DS's current sales are anything to go by -- finding that gimmick that makes the entire market excited for a product isn't all that simple or assured.  can nintendo do it again?

...and if nintendo overshoots the ps360 i'm not sure publishers would follow nintendo -- not without MS and sony also joining so third parties can release multi-plats instead of exclusives.  

i just don't know ... i wouldn't want to have to make the choices nintendo has to make at this point.

I won't deny it's an uphill fight, but Nintendo can be up to the task, so long as they bring the same A-game they brought to the Wii early on, and bring it consistently. With third party parity and their ability to corner the casual market, plus powerful multi-appeal first party titles, the only legitimate threats that would stand in their way are the behemoth of Halo and the service of Xbox Live, and Xbox Live  could easily lose its advantage in a console transition, so long as Nintendo's online service is adequate enough that people can easily play with their friends (though i doubt Nintendo will be aggressive enough to make Live irrelevent, they could, because Live is dependent on the "all my friends have it so i should get it," effect, and in a console transition, that factor becomes a nonissue)

but right now nintendo appears to be the only one in transition and they are apparently transitioning to the same level that ps360 are already at hardware horsepower-wise.  to me that means nintendo has everything to loose with not much room for gain.  what is going to motivate any ps360 owners to buy this new nintendo console if 95% of the console's library is multiplats that are already on the console they already own.

i mean, i might by it cause i'm a sucker for video games and all.  but for the masses, nintendo is going to have to come up with one hell of a killer app to get them to be mult-current gen console owners.

i don't know ... maybe i'm being to pessimistic.  personally i think you're too optimistic. i think i'm just going to fall back on my first point -- until nintendo actually shows their hand we're just speculating which doesn't really mean much.

Nintendo's movement will force transition for the other 2, or at least faster than they would have liked, otherwise the other two would get caught in the same position later on (if they naturally intended to launch in 2015, that's a 3-year headstart for Nintendo, and suddenly the shoe is on the other foot)

Unless Sony and Microsoft hope what you're asserting, that Nintendo will move themselves into irrelevance by doing this, and they can just sit back, do whatever, and keep ignoring them



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radiantshadow92 on 16 April 2011
amp316 said:

I don't know.  What is so special about the PS Move?


Nothing at all....



kitler53 on 16 April 2011
Mr Khan said:
kitler53 said:

but right now nintendo appears to be the only one in transition and they are apparently transitioning to the same level that ps360 are already at hardware horsepower-wise.  to me that means nintendo has everything to loose with not much room for gain.  what is going to motivate any ps360 owners to buy this new nintendo console if 95% of the console's library is multiplats that are already on the console they already own.

i mean, i might by it cause i'm a sucker for video games and all.  but for the masses, nintendo is going to have to come up with one hell of a killer app to get them to be mult-current gen console owners.

i don't know ... maybe i'm being to pessimistic.  personally i think you're too optimistic. i think i'm just going to fall back on my first point -- until nintendo actually shows their hand we're just speculating which doesn't really mean much.

Nintendo's movement will force transition for the other 2, or at least faster than they would have liked, otherwise the other two would get caught in the same position later on (if they naturally intended to launch in 2015, that's a 3-year headstart for Nintendo, and suddenly the shoe is on the other foot)

Unless Sony and Microsoft hope what you're asserting, that Nintendo will move themselves into irrelevance by doing this, and they can just sit back, do whatever, and keep ignoring them

that's the part i'm not so sure about.  assuming that the rumors are correct (which is of course a big assumption) the next nintendo console is on par with the ps360 in stats.  that means dead space 3 (for instance) could be  a ps360-wii2 multiplat.  that doesn't force ms sony to transition -- if anything it strengthens the idea that sony and ms don't have to transition yet.  i mean really, ps3 and 360 just came off of their strongest year in terms of number of consoles sold.



dharh on 16 April 2011

 

Of course the next Nintendo console will support HD. How could it not. There's no UP from Wii graphics that aren't HD. You don't expect them to go sideways or worse graphics, that would be absurd.

Will it be more powerful than PS4/X720? Chances are hell no. Should it? No. Nintendo has a niche. That niche is Nintendo games on the least expensive console to target the most number of people and they should stick with it. Hardly anybody bought the Wii for 3rd party games, they bought it for Nintendo games. And that is what they will buy the next Nintendo console for.

It is assured first place? No. That's just the way it goes. The Wii (for reasons beyond me, since I vehemently dislike current motion controls) captured the imagination of the gaming (and non-gaming) world with something new and unique and had the games the back it up. This next go round will be a tougher sell. We are already acclimated to motion controls, in fact the rumored controller with the screen on it is not even that innovative.

Nintendo is gonna have to one two punch again. Unique hardware and good software. Otherwise they will be thrown back to the Gamecube games again, still profitable, but not at all at the front of the pack.



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Munkeh111 on 16 April 2011

Wii HD means nothing, it is PS Move with Nintendo games and a rubbish online

Wii 2, however, will almost certainly have much much more than just HD, Nintendo aren't stupid



makingmusic476 on 16 April 2011

Why would we want a Wii HD?  Who would not want to see what Nintendo's developers can do with a system as or more powerful than the ps3??  

(I can't seem to find the high rez version of this one anywhere -_-)

Hell, even the Wind Waker in its current form looks absolutely stunning when rendered in 1080p:

Of course, knowing the Nintendo of today, we'll probably get some weird hybrid of those two artstyles that comes off kinda goofy:



Pjams on 16 April 2011

If it is powerful enough, gets the right support from studios and is priced correctly, I think it will serve as a nice upgrade until the PS4/720 arrives. I would buy it. 



 

menx64 on 16 April 2011

wiihd no much really, but the wii2 will bring something new (I am not saying good or bad, but new), the real thing will be the next wave of nintendo games, a new supersmash bros with tons of items and tons of things happening at the same time, a new mario kart with better powers, courses, karts, AI, and a new zelda.... 



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oniyide on 16 April 2011

im in the minority but i never got this whole, "i dont like Wii cause it has no HD". Does everyone not have access to a SD TV??? Are people balling that hard that they replaced every TV they have ever owned with an HD??? My Wii is hooked up to my SD TV and im good with that. What would an HD Wii even do??? It would be the exact same system with just HD resolution. So now the games might look like the HD collections of PS2 games on the PS3(GOW, Sly, TR) while that is an improvement, that isnt anywhere near whay their pushing on PS360. Its not like the hardware will improve that much either, the multiplat games would still be inferior. Now if were talking Wii 2 i have no comment until i have official word from Ninty.

As for Move, nothing special, it just works better than a Wiimote, is all