^^^thats true, could companies be trying to slow down and stop PCs ability to have that modded stuff so gamers would be force to pay for DLC content???? IF so damn!!! im not even a big PC gamer and that would piss me off
| oniyide said: ^^^thats true, could companies be trying to slow down and stop PCs ability to have that modded stuff so gamers would be force to pay for DLC content???? IF so damn!!! im not even a big PC gamer and that would piss me off |
but they're doing it... even Civilization V has its modding capabilities severely restricted just so 2K can release "Civilization packs" and charge for it individually (while Civ IV had 2 full-fledged expansions totally worth their cost).
there's nothing wrong with selling map packs, as long as they're not a total ripoff like Black Ops' are.
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Mr Puggsly said:
I said the industry is struggling, I didn't say its dead as whole. But keep naming developers of mostly low budget games. I'm not sure what that proves. |
Well they have been doing mighty fine it appears, definitely not a sign of a struggling industry.
Yet again you deliver. I love how you managed to call DoW 2 and Shogun 2 low budget. You trully are a piece of work.
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@saliminizer well thats not nice no wonder PC gamers seem tp be getting more and more pissed
Mr Puggsly said:
I said the industry is struggling, I didn't say its dead as whole. But keep naming developers of mostly low budget games. I'm not sure what that proves. |
What makes a game low budget? Does a game that needs to sell 5 million (just to break even) considered a high budget? The cost were high because your developing on 2 systems, one with architect that is stupid hard to develope for. What if they developed a game on a system that was super easy to develope for? Yet kept the game quality the same, or even better...
Would the game thats on 2 systems,cost more than 80 million dollars to make, be better than the other game that only cost 5 million to make? Even if they were exactly the same, well maybe the one that cost less to make had better graphics.
Garnett said:
What makes a game low budget? Does a game that needs to sell 5 million (just to break even) considered a high budget? The cost were high because your developing on 2 systems, one with architect that is stupid hard to develope for. What if they developed a game on a system that was super easy to develope for? Yet kept the game quality the same, or even better...
Would the game thats on 2 systems,cost more than 80 million dollars to make, be better than the other game that only cost 5 million to make? Even if they were exactly the same, well maybe the one that cost less to make had better graphics. |
I'm sure the sales expectations of those games is lower than what would be expected for major console games.
Those games he mentioned are not the same quality either.
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| vlad321 said: Well they have been doing mighty fine it appears, definitely not a sign of a struggling industry. Yet again you deliver. I love how you managed to call DoW 2 and Shogun 2 low budget. You trully are a piece of work. |
If you got a lower quality game with a lower budget, you can rely on the PC.
But developers with bigger and more ambitious projects can't rely on PC. They primarily rely on consoles and sometimes port to PC.
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salaminizer said:
but they're doing it... even Civilization V has its modding capabilities severely restricted just so 2K can release "Civilization packs" and charge for it individually (while Civ IV had 2 full-fledged expansions totally worth their cost). there's nothing wrong with selling map packs, as long as they're not a total ripoff like Black Ops' are. |
Which is messed up when you consider the number of people who would of been totally unhappy with Civ 4... if it wasn't for the Fall From Heaven 2 mod.
I know i'm waiting for a Civ 5 complete before i buy it.
Mr Puggsly said:
If you got a lower quality game with a lower budget, you can rely on the PC. But developers with bigger and more ambitious projects can't rely on PC. They primarily rely on consoles and sometimes port to PC. |
And then they end up in the red. Like Actvision, who was barely pulled out of the red during it's best quarter with the MW2 sales by a PC game.
Seems to me that if developers want to make money they should go to the PC. I'm still finding it hilarious you think DoW2 and Shogun 2 are of lower budget. What about Civ V? Is that low budget too?
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I don't see Value in Map Packs but that is probably because I get bored with the multiplayer quickly. It's all about the single player experience for me.
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