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Mr Puggsly said:
vlad321 said:

How do you justify Minecraft's success in your head? I eagerly await your reply.

When consoles have a hit... its no big deal. It happens every other week.

When PC gets a hit, even though its a budget title, its some how proof that industry isn't struggling.

What can I say?

You didn't fail in delivering.

Your claim was PC games make no money, I have presented you with 3 companies who are doing fine. Let's see how you try to justify these next ones. The Relic, the ones who make Warhammer 40k. They seem to be doing fine considering they keep making the games. Creative Assembly too, and their Total War series (if you remember, Empire was a bit too buggy), they seem to be donig fine as well. CD Projekt with The Witcher also seems to have done well, well enough for a sequel, currently only on the PC.



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vlad321 said:

You didn't fail in delivering.

Your claim was PC games make no money, I have presented you with 3 companies who are doing fine. Let's see how you try to justify these next ones. The Relic, the ones who make Warhammer 40k. They seem to be doing fine considering they keep making the games. Creative Assembly too, and their Total War series (if you remember, Empire was a bit too buggy), they seem to be donig fine as well. CD Projekt with The Witcher also seems to have done well, well enough for a sequel, currently only on the PC.

I said the industry is struggling, I didn't say its dead as whole.

But keep naming developers of mostly low budget games. I'm not sure what that proves.



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oniyide said:

@Kasz216  oh you dont have to tell me that, i did my research on that game, ill try it one day

@vlad  would it not be more time consuming to write a postcard than just call?

Yeah, i just mean that map packs do have value on consoles... where the system is closed and fans really aern't allowed to make content.



^^^thats true, could companies be trying to slow down and stop PCs ability to have that modded stuff so gamers would be force to pay for DLC content???? IF so damn!!! im not even a big PC gamer and that would piss me off



oniyide said:

^^^thats true, could companies be trying to slow down and stop PCs ability to have that modded stuff so gamers would be force to pay for DLC content???? IF so damn!!! im not even a big PC gamer and that would piss me off

but they're doing it... even Civilization V has its modding capabilities severely restricted just so 2K can release "Civilization packs" and charge for it individually (while Civ IV had 2 full-fledged expansions totally worth their cost).

there's nothing wrong with selling map packs, as long as they're not a total ripoff like Black Ops' are.



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Mr Puggsly said:
vlad321 said:

You didn't fail in delivering.

Your claim was PC games make no money, I have presented you with 3 companies who are doing fine. Let's see how you try to justify these next ones. The Relic, the ones who make Warhammer 40k. They seem to be doing fine considering they keep making the games. Creative Assembly too, and their Total War series (if you remember, Empire was a bit too buggy), they seem to be donig fine as well. CD Projekt with The Witcher also seems to have done well, well enough for a sequel, currently only on the PC.

I said the industry is struggling, I didn't say its dead as whole.

But keep naming developers of mostly low budget games. I'm not sure what that proves.

Well they have been doing mighty fine it appears, definitely not a sign of a struggling industry.

Yet again you deliver. I love how you managed to call DoW 2 and Shogun 2 low budget. You trully are a piece of work.



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gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

@saliminizer  well thats not nice no wonder PC gamers seem tp be getting more and more pissed



Mr Puggsly said:
vlad321 said:

You didn't fail in delivering.

Your claim was PC games make no money, I have presented you with 3 companies who are doing fine. Let's see how you try to justify these next ones. The Relic, the ones who make Warhammer 40k. They seem to be doing fine considering they keep making the games. Creative Assembly too, and their Total War series (if you remember, Empire was a bit too buggy), they seem to be donig fine as well. CD Projekt with The Witcher also seems to have done well, well enough for a sequel, currently only on the PC.

I said the industry is struggling, I didn't say its dead as whole.

But keep naming developers of mostly low budget games. I'm not sure what that proves.

What makes a game low budget? Does a game that needs to sell 5 million (just to break even) considered a high budget? The cost were high because your developing on 2 systems, one with architect that is stupid hard to develope for. What if they developed a game on a system that was super easy to develope for? Yet kept the game quality the same, or even better...

 

Would the game thats on 2 systems,cost more than 80 million dollars to make, be better than the other game that only cost 5 million to make? Even if they were exactly the same, well maybe the one that cost less to make had better graphics. 



Garnett said:
Mr Puggsly said:
vlad321 said:

You didn't fail in delivering.

Your claim was PC games make no money, I have presented you with 3 companies who are doing fine. Let's see how you try to justify these next ones. The Relic, the ones who make Warhammer 40k. They seem to be doing fine considering they keep making the games. Creative Assembly too, and their Total War series (if you remember, Empire was a bit too buggy), they seem to be donig fine as well. CD Projekt with The Witcher also seems to have done well, well enough for a sequel, currently only on the PC.

I said the industry is struggling, I didn't say its dead as whole.

But keep naming developers of mostly low budget games. I'm not sure what that proves.

What makes a game low budget? Does a game that needs to sell 5 million (just to break even) considered a high budget? The cost were high because your developing on 2 systems, one with architect that is stupid hard to develope for. What if they developed a game on a system that was super easy to develope for? Yet kept the game quality the same, or even better...

 

Would the game thats on 2 systems,cost more than 80 million dollars to make, be better than the other game that only cost 5 million to make? Even if they were exactly the same, well maybe the one that cost less to make had better graphics. 

I'm sure the sales expectations of those games is lower than what would be expected for major console games.

Those games he mentioned are not the same quality either.



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vlad321 said:

Well they have been doing mighty fine it appears, definitely not a sign of a struggling industry.

Yet again you deliver. I love how you managed to call DoW 2 and Shogun 2 low budget. You trully are a piece of work.

If you got a lower quality game with a lower budget, you can rely on the PC.

But developers with bigger and more ambitious projects can't rely on PC. They primarily rely on consoles and sometimes port to PC.



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