Wagram said:
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I don't why but I found this very amusing lol
Wagram said:
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I don't why but I found this very amusing lol
It's this simple. It costs money to make games, unfortunately. Millions of dollars. And you pay only 60$ to have a copy of the software. Some people, anonymous and hackers, don't want to lay out that small portion that it costs to build the gaming software. So they crack the system to enable copies. They got caught (geohot), and they got mad. So they retaliated. It's like babies crying for getting their free lollipop taken away from them. Get over it, buy the software, stop stealing. For retaliating, they all deserve to be jailed to be honest.
All of this, of course, is just my opinion.
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I know in my area an IP points to a location and not anyones home address.
So I don't care who gets my IP. I can just switch of my router and when it comes back on I have a new one.
What's the big deal?
In Britain even the police have to go through a whole lot of "obtaining permission" and paperwork to track suspected terrorists internet activity and such like, so what chance of sony getting my name or address from my IP?
It seems like nobody put any effort into hacking the ps3 until sony removed linux. But as soon as sony pissed off a few people it was hacked within a few months. So it makes me wonder about the next gen. With all the asshatery sony is now doing will there be a full force effort to hack the ps4 as soon as it comes out?
justinian said: I know in my area an IP points to a location and not anyones home address. So I don't care who gets my IP. I can just switch of my router and when it comes back on I have a new one. What's the big deal? In Britain even the police have to go through a whole lot of "obtaining permission" and paperwork to track suspected terrorists internet activity and such like, so what chance of sony getting my name or address from my IP? |
1. An IP is enough to locate you personally - IP address is used to contact ISP who have your details. Most people have dynamic IPs but this is irrelevent, each IP you have temporarily used can be traced personally back to you.
2. I live in the UK and can tell you right now the police would have to go through a whole lot of "obtaining permission" - JUST TO GET AN IP!!!!!
Getting a suspected terrorists IP is part of obtaining the rights to track them - in the UK the police would need THE SAME amount of evidence to do either.
So the point is that a court giving Sony the right to those IPs is scandelous because in the UK at least, you can't get that sort of thing without some serious (think rapemurderterrorismorganised fraud) reasons.
JWS said: It seems like nobody put any effort into hacking the ps3 until sony removed linux. But as soon as sony pissed off a few people it was hacked within a few months. So it makes me wonder about the next gen. With all the asshatery sony is now doing will there be a full force effort to hack the ps4 as soon as it comes out? |
They removed OtherOS because of people being able to exploit PS3 security via it. Infact if I recall, Geohot himself was the person hacking OtherOS to get to PS3 side of things for, as said in a BBC interview, allowing user to play pirated games and homemade software.
Valid reason to remove it really, you give everyone something and people abuse it, you have to remove it. Not even a feature I used so don't care.
Maybe there will be but it seems Sony are just trying to take a stand against the hacking of consoles, while other sit back and allow consoles to be hacked and games stolen costing the industry millions a year. If you support the games industry you'd buy your games anyway.
Hmm, pie.
I'm with GeoHot, but I'm also strongly against these self-proclaiming hackers dickheads.
And let's call things with their names, they aren't really hackers, GeoHot is, not them, or at least the vast majority of them.
A true hacker, whatever his reasons, right or wrong, would have looked for vulnerabilities in Sony's own computers and exploited them to attack, and, for example, deface Sony's web pages, take down servers, spread Sony classified business and tech informations. These people are using quite standard, albeit malicious, tools, to take control of common people's very poorly secured PC's, make a botnet and attack Sony with a DDoS. Any self-respecting hacker woudn't lower himself to attack weak targets with cheap tools to do a gross attack like a DDoS, unless it was to demonstrate a weakness in the target subnet, or in the whole structure of Internet, that could be corrected (like it's the case of some attacks made easier by widespread routers, firewalls and gateways with firmware old, buggy and/or vulnerable and not updated). So those that wrote the tools used to do this attack can still be considered hackers, but this bunch of pirates that only used those tools are just LAMERS.
Also they aren't really fighters for freedom, like GeoHot instead is, as they spread Sony employees personal informations, while if they were in good faith they'd have spread only Sony business and/or tech infos (that instead they couldn't as they obviously lack the skills to access them): they just acted like THUGS.
So, lamers and thugs, hackers are something else.
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That has been on my mind all day lol. |
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buglebum said: 1. An IP is enough to locate you personally - IP address is used to contact ISP who have your details. Most people have dynamic IPs but this is irrelevent, each IP you have temporarily used can be traced personally back to you. 2. I live in the UK and can tell you right now the police would have to go through a whole lot of "obtaining permission" - JUST TO GET AN IP!!!!! Getting a suspected terrorists IP is part of obtaining the rights to track them - in the UK the police would need THE SAME amount of evidence to do either.
So the point is that a court giving Sony the right to those IPs is scandelous because in the UK at least, you can't get that sort of thing without some serious (think rapemurderterrorismorganised fraud) reasons. |
1. can be traced back by your ISP. Sony didnt subpoena ISP providers. They arent going to gather the personal info of the IP users.
2. Sony did go through "obtaining permision". The act of Geohot is clear as water, no reason for the judge not to accept. Same thing would happen if you claim on the internet that you have a marijuana grow room and the police ask for a warrant. Though, I agree that distributing jailbreaking material of a gaming system on the internet for thousands to download is a gray zone of our current legal system. It will be clarified, which is a good thing, people are starting to think they can do what they want on the internet.
The rest of your post goes to show that you dont know what the subpoena is about:
"Tuesday's order by US Magistrate Judge Joseph C. Spero said the information subject to Sony's subpoena “shall be provided on an Attorneys' Eyes Only basis” and is limited to information relating to whether Hotz has enough ties to Northern California to be sued in federal court in that district."
I dont understand why your loosing your time being alarmist and paranoiac agaisnt this simple legal case. Personally, im loosing my time replying to you because I dont like obvious misinformation.