Oh, its this thread again... Anonymous is supposedly a group of people that claim to be "hackers". They attempt to attack companies which they think have done wrong. I have only recently heard of them with the Sony attacks. This "anonymous" may not even be the same "anonymous" that you guys have heard of before.

Anonymous makes false claims in their video. They state Sony would punish you for something equivalent to simply downloading and uninstalling something on your computer. Wrong. I can download and delete music, videos, and games all I want on my PS3. They support hacking the PS3. While SOME good can come out of this in the end it leads to piracy which damages the game developers who gave your console purpose. Hacking the PS3 software is equivalent to hacking Windows software and I am pretty sure that is illegal.

Sony took out a feature on the PS3 and people are verbally abusing them calling them corrupt, evil, bad, etcetera but with no other reason then "OtherOS" being removed. Sure they removed a feature but it was not that great in the first place. I know some people say it wasn't because of security reasons that it was removed but it was due to cost. But what I find odd is why did they take out that feature soon after all the hacking news and why didn't they take it out in the first place when the PS3 cost $800 at launch? It may indeed be true that it was just to save money but if it was its odd to have been taken out at the time and not earlier.

Sony took out two total features that I know of. They took out "OtherOS" and PS2 backwards compatibility. Thats one important feature and its not "OtherOS". PS2 backwards compatibility was removed for manufacturing costs and because the PS2 was and is their best profiting product on the market and at the time the PS3 cost more to manufacture then it was sold for. How is Sony bad for this? If you really want a PS2 player a PS2 is very very cheap now and you can go online and find a PS2 backwards compatible PS3.

Because so many people think that Sony takes out features nonstop I will tell what features I know of that were taken out and what features I know of that were added to the PS3.

Features taken out:
OtherOS support
PS2 backwards compatibility

Features added:
Remote Play
Ability to upscale standard DVD-Videos to 1080p
Multiple video and audio improving updates
In game XMB
In game audio(up to developers)
Home
Facebook integration(up to developers)
Twitter integration(up to developers)
Youtube uploud integration(up to developers)
3D Support
Video editor & uploader added
Upload photos to Facebook or Picasa
Playstation Plus(Comes with many exclusive features such as automatic download and "cloud saving")

You can hate Sony all you want for removing one or two features but they are still a good company, at least in the gaming industry. They may be in the industry for money but they are not entirely greedy like people claim.



I would love to expose "Anonymous" a little bit and just state I have not heard of any hacking from them. Merely just DDoS attacks which most people can do... Maybe they are genius hackers but, well... I've not heard of any hacking attempts from them and merely only heard of childs play like the DDoS attacks. So much for a all powerful unknown association like they pretend they are. They fail to realize that a DDoS is not hacking and they fail to realize that when they DDoS attacked PSN that it affected all of the PSN users entirely more then it affected Sony. If they were a credible group then they would know how to make a good plan and that they failed at.


EDIT: PS2 backwards compatibility was not removed via firmware update. It is in many of the old PS3 models and you can find them online if you type in "PS2 Backwards Compatible PS3". OtherOS is the only one completely removed from updated PS3s while PS2 backwards compatibility resides with older PS3 models.

I was about to say something similar, namely how I value BC ten times above anything else on that list. I wouldn't like my ps3 if it didn't have that feature. Hence why I would never get a slim. 

I like how you state your opinion as fact.

To me, the two removed were usless and I could care less. However, I routinely use a large number of the ones added.

Other OS was (and is) pretty much useless for 99% of PS3 users (Ubuntu 10.10 on PC rules though) and PS2's are dirt cheap and far more reliable than the PS3 is... his feature list easily outweighs the feats removed.

By like, I mean on par with everything else I own. It would be my least favorite console if it didn't have BC. Right now it is three-way tie for first place (DS, Wii, PS3).

Also my ps2 is old and not reliable enough, and I am not going to buy two ps2s.  

@Xen, ps2 have never been more reliable to me. My MGS4 80gb PS3 is build much better. 

Well, that's you and past models perhaps. Factually, the reliablity of the current 9000x model is top notch. Heck, my 39004 will be entering its 8th year in "service" this June, not a hitch so far.

you can buy a tv with a built in ps2

Ya, I doubt I will do that either! :P

I am satisfied, with my ps3 that plays ps2 games, all I am trying to say, is that BC is much better feature. 

Plagiarist! 

Hacker>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pirate>>>>>>>>Liberals>>>>>> Plagiarists! 

This is officially the worst researched thread I have ever had the misfortune to endure. Im not even a member of this site, nor do I own a PS3 and have registered purely to write a reply to this ridiculus outlook you appear to be labouring over.

1. I know plenty of people who used otherOS before it was removed. That fact that you didnt use it makes it your opinion that 'people are complaining over nothing', not a certifiable fact. What is a fact is that many people paid $800 as you so rightly quoted for a machine with 'otherOS' and were not offered any type of compensation when the feature was removed. Even so, this isnt the main reason for all this hurlyburly.

2. The main reason for the response from anonymous is that Geohot placed a video on youtube and on his own site showing his ps3 hack. Sony then filed civil case requesting that the IP address of ANYONE who viewed either the youtube video or the site be supoened FROM YOUTUBE and Geohots host. Thats ANYONE who may have stumbled upon the video or been redirected to it or anyother method innocent members of the public come across youtube videos. UNBELIEVABLY the court agreed ad thus over 10,000 IP addresses were passed over for further investigation. Thats a MASSIVE INVASION of peoples right to privacy online. Thats the reason for the anonymous involvement, nothing else.

3. You said 'anonymous' has done nothing of note other than DDoS'ing which anybody can do. How about when they broke into HBGary a $2 million governmental private security firm after it falsely claimed it had pentrated its members, releasing 60,000 emails outlining how the company was using illegal methods to obtain finances and information, a crime they are currently explaining under congressional commitee. How about when they broke into the Bank of America releasing emails outlining how it has been deleting account details from their systems for no reason after requests from external insurance agencies. The list goes on.....and on......and on.....

I am not a member of anonymous, merely a sympathiser. I also sympathise with you guys because its the gamer who is getting the short end of the stick in all of this. The point however still remains that there is always going to be a 'geohot' trying to hack any electronic device released and the way to deal with this is not by using your corporate power to pull data on thousands of individuals from the internet, the vast majority of which have done absolutely nothing wrong. Who knows, you have a ps3, maybe you looked at the video out of curiosity and are now being investigated by sony . . . . .