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vlad321 said:
DonFerrari said:
vlad321 said:
DonFerrari said:
vlad321 said:

TO the bolded. Because they don't know any better either.

Furthermore, the studies i think he linked I know, and specifically the dutch one points out that the economy GROWS because of piracy. Then the Japanese government found out anime piracy increased the market. Meanwhile the others (specifically the US government) kept saying that they just can't find any harm. Not being able to find harm is a result in and of itself, because it shows there is no harm done.

Lastly those "unkown" university wouldn't happen to be the US/dutch/japanese governments, would they? I am also curious what a "known" university is to you and how known/unknown has ANY bearing on scientific data.

The end result is that people have a kneejerk reaction when absolutely ALL studies done have shown that piracy doesn't do harm. It takes a certain amount of close mindedness to keep arguing and believing a point that studies have continuously shown to be faulty.

If they don't know better, any collective of people can try to arrange a meeting to show it... i don't think that mega corporations are dumb and the forum posters are so much better prepared to run bussiness (because if they are they should start their own company to compet... as i think hackers should make theirs console since they are very kwnoledgeable).

The links he provided wasn't from any government, he gave one that was a news report of the suit against piratebay and the other was from a small university that i don't remember the name....

And every time someone say that there are studies they never bother to link it... and i do think if you have kwoledge just spread it... go to the companies and show them the reality, if you are a security research and not a douchbag go the company and show your discoveries, don't publish it for potentialy harmfull use.

Companies don't like having to change business models. Your logic in "why don't they start one" is extremely faulty. I don't wanna start  a company because I find it boring, not intellectually challenging, and not worth the stress of starting one. I'm sure others have other forms of reasons too.

As for the links, there are so many counltess of people who have the the same faulty reasoning as you that I just get tired of having to hunt them down each time. However you are in luck because very recently I had to gather them up again:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3988276


So I understand... you have another person or group make a big corporation and them you hit them and harm them because it's to bothersome to invent something by yourself???

Now I'm sure the hackers are just there to make a better world for everyone and bring inovations.


If what they do harms me, in this case Sony is trying to tell me that I can't do whatever I want and then share that info with anyone else to hardware I paid for, then yes, the ocmpany needs to go to fucking hell.

I also like how you completely, ignore all the other points, and still defend them. Lastly, removing the whole "piracy harms" the entire argument becomes pointless. A hacked PS3 doesn't cause harm, and therefore SONY has absolutely no ground for suing, and therefore they are even MORE wrong.

I also await studies that show me that piracy does indeed do significant harm. Please spare me all the shit that the RIAA/IFPI/MPAA ave put out, because I can link you to several articles that completely destroy those studies as well.

You can share the information you want they didn't mute you, they are just sueing because they think this harmed them and want compensation... in any country with freedom of speech there is also liability.

And if Sony have ground to sue is up to judge nor you, or you have law degree and are a judge of the case?

No I won't look for studies that prove they harm, don't make a difference as they are still illegal.



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DonFerrari said:
vlad321 said:


If what they do harms me, in this case Sony is trying to tell me that I can't do whatever I want and then share that info with anyone else to hardware I paid for, then yes, the ocmpany needs to go to fucking hell.

I also like how you completely, ignore all the other points, and still defend them. Lastly, removing the whole "piracy harms" the entire argument becomes pointless. A hacked PS3 doesn't cause harm, and therefore SONY has absolutely no ground for suing, and therefore they are even MORE wrong.

I also await studies that show me that piracy does indeed do significant harm. Please spare me all the shit that the RIAA/IFPI/MPAA ave put out, because I can link you to several articles that completely destroy those studies as well.

You can share the information you want they didn't mute you, they are just sueing because they think this harmed them and want compensation... in any country with freedom of speech there is also liability.

And if Sony have ground to sue is up to judge nor you, or you have law degree and are a judge of the case?

No I won't look for studies that prove they harm, don't make a difference as they are still illegal.


Leges sine moribus vanae (Laws without morals are useless) - UPENN's motto

Basically, leagality doesn't mean shit when it comes to what should and shouldn't happen. Anon is making its position known by attacking Sony on this issue. Hence why the debate exists.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

vlad321 said:
DonFerrari said:
vlad321 said:


If what they do harms me, in this case Sony is trying to tell me that I can't do whatever I want and then share that info with anyone else to hardware I paid for, then yes, the ocmpany needs to go to fucking hell.

I also like how you completely, ignore all the other points, and still defend them. Lastly, removing the whole "piracy harms" the entire argument becomes pointless. A hacked PS3 doesn't cause harm, and therefore SONY has absolutely no ground for suing, and therefore they are even MORE wrong.

I also await studies that show me that piracy does indeed do significant harm. Please spare me all the shit that the RIAA/IFPI/MPAA ave put out, because I can link you to several articles that completely destroy those studies as well.

You can share the information you want they didn't mute you, they are just sueing because they think this harmed them and want compensation... in any country with freedom of speech there is also liability.

And if Sony have ground to sue is up to judge nor you, or you have law degree and are a judge of the case?

No I won't look for studies that prove they harm, don't make a difference as they are still illegal.


Leges sine moribus vanae (Laws without morals are useless) - UPENN's motto

Basically, leagality doesn't mean shit when it comes to what should and shouldn't happen. Anon is making its position known by attacking Sony on this issue. Hence why the debate exists.

I won't deny they are doing. And won't deny the debate. And yes you can do illegal stuff, still doesn't make it legal.

And what are the moral codes Sony is breaking and Anon is doing so better? right to privacy? they don't respect. Freedom of speech? They don't always respect as they censor Sony by what they are doing. So none of them are so right as people try to pass.