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Will Sony sticks its penis in the hornet's nest?

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ssj12 on 04 April 2011
kowenicki said:

Whilst I think some of Sony's recent actions stink I could never endorse the actions of this type of group.   

But... to people who think that Sony systems will be too robust for attack; one guy, who suffered from aspergers, sat in his bedroom in England managed to get into dozens of secure systems of the US military and NASA, crashing quite a few of them.  Nothing is completely secure.


Agreed, how many times has China been into our systems? China can probably fire off our nukes if they wanted to. Thank god even they know that is a horrible idea.

No system is secure, no system has unbreakable defenses, and every system can be compromised. Firewalls, and other barriers will stop the less knowledgeable, but the better hackers will scale all security and laugh at an organization or government's defenses.



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Games4Fun on 04 April 2011

I wonder if they have one really good hacker guy that sits in a big room with a lot of fancy stuff and a huge cinema type screen like in Hackers the movie going muahahahah muahahah



goforgold on 04 April 2011
ssj12 said:
Porcupine_I said:
ssj12 said:
twesterm said:
ssj12 said:
cura said:

lol, this guy is in dire need of a therapist.


no, seriously you have no idea what a threat Anonymous really is. They gave the church of scientology a massive black eye, has basically destroyed the lives of the people holding Sgt. Manning captive over the whole wikileaks leaks, and has destroyed a security company. As well as shut down several government websites, among other things. You do not take a threat from them lightly or else they will destroy you.

If good sized portion of Anon is seriously going to target Sony, be very prepared for the PSN to be annihilated (or at least be taken offline for at least a week or two if its not hacked and crippled) as well as probably most of the executives within Sony to have all their personal information Doxed. It wouldn't destroy Sony, but Anon will severely damage them if this is true.

Right, and we suffer along with that.  Why is that a good thing?

You seem to always put them up on a pedastal when they really have no reason what-so-ever t obe.  They have no one's best interest in mind other than their own.


Actually, all their major crusades have helped massively. They made it so PayPal would allow donations to wikileaks, they shut Scientology up, destroyed a security company that was planning on revealing who was apart of the cyber war that is still brewing, hurt governments that stood against freedom of information. Yes they have done some questionable things too. But some good does come from what they do.

Anonymous is a very unique group, as they are actually 100% leaderless. It is basically a coin with a heads and tails side, its a matter which side the coin lands on today that matters which side anonymous will take today. There is also the fact within anonymous there are splinter groups that also flip their own coins. It actually a very good example that the world could work very effectively without true leaders. And when the collective gets together and they decided on what they are going to do it gets done.

And really, Sony suffering for what they are doing would be a fantastic thing. They deserve it. It would definitely put them in their place. And like Machina said, they are more likely to reprice everything in the PS Store to zero or 1cent than bring down the network. Network crashing is normally their last resort (except under certain circumstances). And the easiest way to stop a company in their tracks is to destroy their management teams.

and what exactly is this terrible and atrocious thing sony has done, except for using every legal means avaliable to protect their network and preventing piracy?

tell me who exactly is this "Sony" person who needs to be brought down to their knees?

lets just assume anonymous is successful! they completely destroy PSN. they release every code so everyone can play "backups" they set all the prices on PSN to zero so everyone can enjoy free games! and in the end the sony network division just goes out of business, that would be great, for everyone wouldn't it? THEY deserve this, right?

do you actually think anyone else but the consumers and the workers at sony will be hurt by this?


Anonymous wouldn't go that far. They would just make Sony regret decisions. Apply enough hurt, decisions quickly change.

your naivety and ignorance is astounding, yeah you hope they won't go that far is more like it



ssj12 on 04 April 2011
goforgold said:
ssj12 said:
Porcupine_I said:
ssj12 said:
twesterm said:
ssj12 said:
cura said:

lol, this guy is in dire need of a therapist.


no, seriously you have no idea what a threat Anonymous really is. They gave the church of scientology a massive black eye, has basically destroyed the lives of the people holding Sgt. Manning captive over the whole wikileaks leaks, and has destroyed a security company. As well as shut down several government websites, among other things. You do not take a threat from them lightly or else they will destroy you.

If good sized portion of Anon is seriously going to target Sony, be very prepared for the PSN to be annihilated (or at least be taken offline for at least a week or two if its not hacked and crippled) as well as probably most of the executives within Sony to have all their personal information Doxed. It wouldn't destroy Sony, but Anon will severely damage them if this is true.

Right, and we suffer along with that.  Why is that a good thing?

You seem to always put them up on a pedastal when they really have no reason what-so-ever t obe.  They have no one's best interest in mind other than their own.


Actually, all their major crusades have helped massively. They made it so PayPal would allow donations to wikileaks, they shut Scientology up, destroyed a security company that was planning on revealing who was apart of the cyber war that is still brewing, hurt governments that stood against freedom of information. Yes they have done some questionable things too. But some good does come from what they do.

Anonymous is a very unique group, as they are actually 100% leaderless. It is basically a coin with a heads and tails side, its a matter which side the coin lands on today that matters which side anonymous will take today. There is also the fact within anonymous there are splinter groups that also flip their own coins. It actually a very good example that the world could work very effectively without true leaders. And when the collective gets together and they decided on what they are going to do it gets done.

And really, Sony suffering for what they are doing would be a fantastic thing. They deserve it. It would definitely put them in their place. And like Machina said, they are more likely to reprice everything in the PS Store to zero or 1cent than bring down the network. Network crashing is normally their last resort (except under certain circumstances). And the easiest way to stop a company in their tracks is to destroy their management teams.

and what exactly is this terrible and atrocious thing sony has done, except for using every legal means avaliable to protect their network and preventing piracy?

tell me who exactly is this "Sony" person who needs to be brought down to their knees?

lets just assume anonymous is successful! they completely destroy PSN. they release every code so everyone can play "backups" they set all the prices on PSN to zero so everyone can enjoy free games! and in the end the sony network division just goes out of business, that would be great, for everyone wouldn't it? THEY deserve this, right?

do you actually think anyone else but the consumers and the workers at sony will be hurt by this?


Anonymous wouldn't go that far. They would just make Sony regret decisions. Apply enough hurt, decisions quickly change.

your naivety and ignorance is astounding, yeah you fucking hope they won't go that far is more like it

eh, really I couldn't care either way. I expect them to just hack the PSN, drop prices, and maybe block the admins forcing the network division to have to hack their own service to change things back.

It will be an epic knockout punch either way. Just one will be a sucker punch that leads to the knockout, and the other will be a brutal punch straight to the nose with brass knuckles.



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Porcupine_I on 04 April 2011
kcoward said:
hehey said:
kcoward said:

Is this a good or bad response towards the hackers? I think Sony would be better off apologising for taking off Other OS and hope the hackers feel sorry for them. Anon is to be taken seriously despite what people think. Sony is in for a very big loss. Judging by Anon's track record they always do what they set out to do.

You dont get anywhere by trying to appease terrorists.

well if Sony think they can do better than a security company good luck to them. all this could have been prevented if they had just left Linux on the PS3. of course they knew they were going to piss off the hackers that paid $600 to only learn that sony take off the feature. also geohot had nothing to do with piracy or cheats on games. all he did was enable homebrew to run to all the people that felt betrayed by sony after they spent $600. piracy and cheats was on PS3 long before geohot hacked it.

And why did they remove it in the first place? Because Mister Hotz used the feature to hack the PS3, and made it public.  



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naruball on 04 April 2011

I hope they get caught and arrested. Then they can act cool in prison.



kitler53 on 04 April 2011
ssj12 said:
goforgold said:

your naivety and ignorance is astounding, yeah you fucking hope they won't go that far is more like it

eh, really I couldn't care either way. I expect them to just hack the PSN, drop prices, and maybe block the admins forcing the network division to have to hack their own service to change things back.

It will be an epic knockout punch either way. Just one will be a sucker punch that leads to the knockout, and the other will be a brutal punch straight to the nose with brass knuckles.

i'm quickly learning you are a very very scary person.  the posts i've seen you make lately really scare the hell out of me. 



Euphoria14 on 04 April 2011
Porcupine_I said:
kcoward said:
hehey said:
kcoward said:

Is this a good or bad response towards the hackers? I think Sony would be better off apologising for taking off Other OS and hope the hackers feel sorry for them. Anon is to be taken seriously despite what people think. Sony is in for a very big loss. Judging by Anon's track record they always do what they set out to do.

You dont get anywhere by trying to appease terrorists.

well if Sony think they can do better than a security company good luck to them. all this could have been prevented if they had just left Linux on the PS3. of course they knew they were going to piss off the hackers that paid $600 to only learn that sony take off the feature. also geohot had nothing to do with piracy or cheats on games. all he did was enable homebrew to run to all the people that felt betrayed by sony after they spent $600. piracy and cheats was on PS3 long before geohot hacked it.

And why did they remove it in the first place? Because Mister Hotz used the feature to hack the PS3, and made it public.  

Actually court documents revealed that it was removed for cost reasons, not piracy. Well, this is what the argument is and to be honest they make a good point.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/295597/news/ps3-other-os-removed-to-cut-costs-not-piracy-lawsuit/

 



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Dallinor on 04 April 2011
kcoward said:
hehey said:
kcoward said:

Is this a good or bad response towards the hackers? I think Sony would be better off apologising for taking off Other OS and hope the hackers feel sorry for them. Anon is to be taken seriously despite what people think. Sony is in for a very big loss. Judging by Anon's track record they always do what they set out to do.

You dont get anywhere by trying to appease terrorists.

well if Sony think they can do better than a security company good luck to them.


I think if you read up on it, the security company actually had very poor security.

"Unfortunately for HBGary, this third-party CMS was poorly written. In fact, it had what can only be described as a pretty gaping bug in it. A standard, off-the-shelf CMS would be no panacea in this regard—security flaws crop up in all of them from time to time—but it would have the advantage of many thousands of users and regular bugfixes, resulting in a much lesser chance of extant security flaws.

The custom solution on HBGary's site, alas, appeared to lack this kind of support. And if HBGary conducted any kind of vulnerability assessment of the software—which is, after all, one of the services the company offers—then its assessment overlooked a substantial flaw."



 

ssj12 on 04 April 2011
Porcupine_I said:
kcoward said:
hehey said:
kcoward said:

Is this a good or bad response towards the hackers? I think Sony would be better off apologising for taking off Other OS and hope the hackers feel sorry for them. Anon is to be taken seriously despite what people think. Sony is in for a very big loss. Judging by Anon's track record they always do what they set out to do.

You dont get anywhere by trying to appease terrorists.

well if Sony think they can do better than a security company good luck to them. all this could have been prevented if they had just left Linux on the PS3. of course they knew they were going to piss off the hackers that paid $600 to only learn that sony take off the feature. also geohot had nothing to do with piracy or cheats on games. all he did was enable homebrew to run to all the people that felt betrayed by sony after they spent $600. piracy and cheats was on PS3 long before geohot hacked it.

And why did they remove it in the first place? Because Mister Hotz used the feature to hack the PS3, and made it public.  


no, not at all. Sony advertised and allowed the PS3 to be hacked and used for development work with the CELL early on. Sony just changed their minds for no freaking reason at all. Hotz wasn't even focusing on the PS3 till after OtherOS was removed.



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