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OT: Despite low reviews it should still do 1.5million at least

2m

any reports on first day sales?

Nope but if you look @ the recent pre-order chartz according to VGC it will open about 300k in US alone so yeh LOL @ the guy who said 700k LTD.

Yea but thats only an estimate, Estimates arent always guarantees. Then also you claim that itll do 300k alone in the US. Okay so lets say that it does, socoms history shows that only its major sales are only in the US and not that much in emeaa territory. Mag with 245,000 preorders before its final week ( note that its preorders are way more than socom 4's ) opened up barely 300k in america alone and another 96,000 copies in emeaa territories. If mag had more preorders than socom 4, with better reviews and a higher metacritic score  and only opened up 96k in emeaa in its first week and  lower in the upcomming weeks after that, with a lifetime of 1.1 million and socom never proved to sell well in emeaa, what makes you think that all of a sudden its going to open up in emeaa as the same amount as it is in the americas?  Im going to assume thats what your thinkin since you made the, " itll do 300k in the US alone " statement. Then by the 10th week mag only managed to barely pass 700k. Mag with MORE preorders than socom 4 with a higher metacritic struggled to hit 1 million copies lifetime even with a price cut. Its at 1.1 million atm. If your considering pre-orders the exact estimate that it going to sale then socom 4 isnt going to beat mag out,meanin its possible that 700k or a little bit more than that might be its lifetime. People use the excuse for Socom 4, that if confrontation hit a million or mag hit a million than socom 4 can easily do it. But they have to consider the fact on HOW LONG it took confrontation to hit a million even with a price cut, confrontation came out 3 years ago and " JUST NOW " its hitting 1 million with a price cut? thats not good. Mag did better than confrontation with a liftime of barely over  1.1 million with a price cut within a year and 4 months, Socom 4 with a lower pre order count than mag ( not to mention most people pre-ordered it only for the sharp shooter ) will be lucky to hit those numbers with CONSISTANT legs in a FASTER rate than both, mainly mag. Most games nowadays only sell the most in its opening week and tend to drop lower after the upcoming weeks, MOST games that is.

Not mention, the majority of people that bought SOCOM 4 first day are the people that will buy any SOCOM game in hopes of a return to the series' roots. Nobody else will be attracted to this game besides SOCOM players, as its an extremely poor imitator of the competition. COD players will pass it over. And if the game doesn't cater to the hardcore base like it should have, I don't expect this game to have any sort of legs. Even if it sells 500k first week I'd be surprised to see 1 million lifetime. I say 800k lifetime, and it doesn't even deserve to sell that many. The only reason it will is desperate veterans to the series who will then spend the rest of the game's lifetime complaining on the official forums.

you wanna bet on that? MAG is a new IP that is online only with no co-op managed to sell 1m and you think socom 4 which has core followers and is a well knowed franchise will be lucky to reach 1m?

I'd be more than happy to take that bet way too easy.

I'm gonna guess like 2 million life time. For a few reasons...

1) I imagine Move fans have been waiting for it.
2) Hyped and its a popular series.
3) Its a shooter.

I wonder what the budget for this game was, may struggle to break even.

Okay so back to my previous statement, MAG was a new ip that got more preorders than socom 4, socom 4 had more of the popularity and still got out pre-ordered by mag, and mag barely hit one million lifetime with a price cut, what makes you think socom 4 thats not even popular nowdays and not as popular as it was during the ps2 days gonna outsell mag and hit two million? it would be lucky to hit 1.5 million lifetime, Especially with all the competetion out there nowdays such as the modern day shooters, not to mention its metacritic scores are low. Not tryin to be a troll but it sounds like you really want these game to succeed, its not even considered a AAA title anymore. Besides the only reason it was succesful back then was not only did it cater to the vets, but it was like the ONLY shooter for ps2 at the time, besides that their was killzone that had just came out around 2003'ish and was a fresh new ip that needed time to build, so it wasnt as big back then as it is nowdays while socom " BACK THEN" was the shooter of ps2, even though KZ1 averaged 15,000 players online a day and for the ps2 days that was still a lot and finally shutdown the servers in 2008. Plus with all the other shooters that are out nowdays its not like every single person is just gonna up and drop every other shooter to play socom, especially the casuals. The market is flooded with tons of shooters. Even the cod players arent just gonna go cold turkey and quit cod to play Socom. If they wanna play cod then their gonna play cod.

About 2 million.