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kowenicki said:
yo_john117 said:
wholikeswood said:
kowenicki said:
wholikeswood said:
kowenicki said:

LBP2 is a massive sales disappointment.

LBP after 10 weeks - 134k for the week and total of 1.8m

LBP2 after 10 weeks - 23k for the week and total of 1.1m

Not sure where this franchse will go after this, needs a new direction... somehow.

Can't get over the ignorance of this post, given a holiday launch versus a January launch...

Cant get over the arrogance of this post... (as usual)

Go complain to the idiot at Sony that decided its fate... dont come complaining to me.  

Didn't seem to stop the opposite comparison being valid in the gt5 gt4 sales comparison did it...?

So what you're saying is that you got upset when people compared GT4/GT5 unfairly in order to flatter GT5, but then you're happy to do the exact same thing so that you can bash LBP2.

Congratulations on exposing your own hypocrisy. Words almost fail me.

I'm fairly sure he's just pointing out the hypocrisy.

Indeed I was... he seems the be the one showing hypocricy.  I have no problem whatsoever with the GT5/GT4 comparions and therefore I dont see why he has one with the LBP/LBP2 one.

I'll be honest, I ain't the biggest fan of you kowen, but I think people are giving unnecessarily slack to you, only because

A) You are you, and for somereason people view you in a special way, and B) You might have touched a nerve, with an extremely hyped game, and people refuse to notice it having disappointing sales as of now. 

Seriously, if someone else made that post, I doubt it would get much attention. 

As always the worldwide thread is an awesome place, to catch action on VGC. 



 

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ethomaz said:
kowenicki said:
Mordred11 said:
kowenicki said:
rccsetzer said:
goforgold said:
Munkeh111 said:

Why is the PS3 winning the home console warz at the moment? I really don't get where this has come from

I was just about to ask the same question?? I mean isn't it like more expensive than the other 2? and it's gimmick isn't doing as good as the others gimmicks


I see that no one thinks about one simple thing : it is the only console using Blu-ray.

Put a Wii, a PS3 and a Xbox360 in front of you and ask yourself : Wich piece of hardware is apparently more "future-proof"? The majority of people is answering PS3.

And yet less people think that this year than last... look at my YOY above your post.

We are often guilty of looking at a weeks numbers in isolation.

The PS3 is doing good compared to last year,considering that it was still riding the slim/price-cut effect.


down over 30% is good?

2011 leader console is bad?

PS3 is doing AMAZING. First year beating everything.

So far...



TeddostheFireKing said:
Nintendogamer said:
TeddostheFireKing said:
Nintendogamer said:

Who thinks Wii will hit 90M in summer?


I don't, possibly by the end of september, otherwise I very much doubt it


How about shipped? 88.3M end of June, maybe 90M end of September.


yeah thats possible, I can see Nintendo stocking up for Christmas early and they'll be preparing for their big hitters like Zelda at the end of the year, never hurts to stock a couple months early

Yeah, look what happened to M$ last holiday; they could've use better inventory stock.



kowenicki said:
wholikeswood said:
kowenicki said:

LBP2 is a massive sales disappointment.

LBP after 10 weeks - 134k for the week and total of 1.8m

LBP2 after 10 weeks - 23k for the week and total of 1.1m

Not sure where this franchse will go after this, needs a new direction... somehow.

Can't get over the ignorance of this post, given a holiday launch versus a January launch...

Cant get over the arrogance of this post... (as usual)

Go complain to the idiot at Sony that decided its fate... dont come complaining to me.  

Didn't seem to stop the opposite comparison being valid in the gt5 gt4 sales comparison did it...?

Pwned!



kowenicki said:
wholikeswood said:
kowenicki said:

LBP2 is a massive sales disappointment.

LBP after 10 weeks - 134k for the week and total of 1.8m

LBP2 after 10 weeks - 23k for the week and total of 1.1m

Not sure where this franchse will go after this, needs a new direction... somehow.

Can't get over the ignorance of this post, given a holiday launch versus a January launch...

Cant get over the arrogance of this post... (as usual)

Go complain to the idiot at Sony that decided its fate... dont come complaining to me.  

Didn't seem to stop the opposite comparison being valid in the gt5 gt4 sales comparison did it...?

Oh no LBP2 is selling slower. Who cares it's still full price while LBP was price dropped after few weeks and costed in 15-20 pounds range at end of december.



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kowenicki said:
wholikeswood said:
kowenicki said:
wholikeswood said:
kowenicki said:

LBP2 is a massive sales disappointment.

LBP after 10 weeks - 134k for the week and total of 1.8m

LBP2 after 10 weeks - 23k for the week and total of 1.1m

Not sure where this franchse will go after this, needs a new direction... somehow.

Can't get over the ignorance of this post, given a holiday launch versus a January launch...

Cant get over the arrogance of this post... (as usual)

Go complain to the idiot at Sony that decided its fate... dont come complaining to me.  

Didn't seem to stop the opposite comparison being valid in the gt5 gt4 sales comparison did it...?

So what you're saying is that you got upset when people compared GT4/GT5 unfairly in order to flatter GT5, but then you're happy to do the exact same thing so that you can bash LBP2.

Congratulations on exposing your own hypocrisy. Words almost fail me.

Umm no.   I wasnt saying I got upset at the GT4/GT5 comparison.  You were the one getting upset and displaying hypocricy (as others here have also identified) by getting all flustered by my LBP/LBP2 comparison.  I am not bashing LBP2 at all, I am merely making an observation.  

Finally... relax... "words almost fail me" , "cant get over the ignorance",  Jesus.. chill out fella.

I'm not upset (nor surprised) that you're bashing LBP2 sales; I just think you should be consistent - if you were upset by certain GT4/GT5 comparisons (and evidently you were), you shouldn't follow suit and draw similarly misleading comparisons, because that's what you've done and that's why your earlier post was hypocritical.

And how could I possibly have been hypocritical when I have approved neither of misleading Gran Turismo comparisons nor of misleading LittleBigPlanet comparisons? Think it through...



AFFLICTION said:
ethomaz said:

Are there adjustments? Of course... always.

DS UP 2,939
PSP UP 1,943
Wii UP 127
360 DOWN 388
PS3 DOWN 505


I always look for your posts about adjustments so i don't have to look myself so thanks and keep up the good work!

I'm also very amused by how ethomaz haters always bash him for the adjustments matter and then he regularly pwn them when adjustment arrive, like he predicted.    And when it happens, haters start cursing him, the adjustments and VGC too!   



Stwike him, Centuwion. Stwike him vewy wuffly! (Pontius Pilate, "Life of Brian")
A fart without stink is like a sky without stars.
TGS, Third Grade Shooter: brand new genre invented by Kevin Butler exclusively for Natal WiiToo Kinect. PEW! PEW-PEW-PEW! 
 


Im loving these sales! KZ3 has legs!



kowenicki said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
AFFLICTION said:
ethomaz said:

Are there adjustments? Of course... always.

DS UP 2,939
PSP UP 1,943
Wii UP 127
360 DOWN 388
PS3 DOWN 505


I always look for your posts about adjustments so i don't have to look myself so thanks and keep up the good work!

I'm also very amused by how ethomaz haters always bash him for the adjustments matter and then he regularly pwn them when adjustment arrive, like he predicted.    And when it happens, haters start cursing him, the adjustments and VGC too!   


I dont think people bash him for actually saying "adjustments" more the frequency at which he says it.... i.e. almost every post and only on sony exclusive titles.

I appreciate the weekly hardware adjustment list, its useful... to a point.  But we all know adjustments happen all the time.

I understand what you mean, but there are some that let themselves be carried away by great vengeance and furious anger when he does it.  Those are actually not the ones that just bash his repetitiveness sometimes making him look like the inflatable parrot on Clouseau's shoulder when he disguised himself as Long John Silver, but him for breaking some wet (and often hateful) dreams unadjusted numbers caused them to have...   



Stwike him, Centuwion. Stwike him vewy wuffly! (Pontius Pilate, "Life of Brian")
A fart without stink is like a sky without stars.
TGS, Third Grade Shooter: brand new genre invented by Kevin Butler exclusively for Natal WiiToo Kinect. PEW! PEW-PEW-PEW! 
 


kowenicki said:
wholikeswood said:
kowenicki said:
wholikeswood said:
kowenicki said:
wholikeswood said:
kowenicki said:

LBP2 is a massive sales disappointment.

LBP after 10 weeks - 134k for the week and total of 1.8m

LBP2 after 10 weeks - 23k for the week and total of 1.1m

Not sure where this franchse will go after this, needs a new direction... somehow.

Can't get over the ignorance of this post, given a holiday launch versus a January launch...

Cant get over the arrogance of this post... (as usual)

Go complain to the idiot at Sony that decided its fate... dont come complaining to me.  

Didn't seem to stop the opposite comparison being valid in the gt5 gt4 sales comparison did it...?

So what you're saying is that you got upset when people compared GT4/GT5 unfairly in order to flatter GT5, but then you're happy to do the exact same thing so that you can bash LBP2.

Congratulations on exposing your own hypocrisy. Words almost fail me.

Umm no.   I wasnt saying I got upset at the GT4/GT5 comparison.  You were the one getting upset and displaying hypocricy (as others here have also identified) by getting all flustered by my LBP/LBP2 comparison.  I am not bashing LBP2 at all, I am merely making an observation.  

Finally... relax... "words almost fail me" , "cant get over the ignorance",  Jesus.. chill out fella.

I'm not upset (nor surprised) that you're bashing LBP2 sales; I just think you should be consistent - if you were upset by certain GT4/GT5 comparisons (and evidently you were), you shouldn't follow suit and draw similarly misleading comparisons, because that's what you've done and that's why your earlier post was hypocritical.

And how could I possibly have been hypocritical when I have approved neither of misleading Gran Turismo comparisons nor of misleading LittleBigPlanet comparisons? Think it through...


No, I wasnt upset by the GT4/GT5 comparison, where is the evidence that I was upset.  I didnt know you thought the GT5/GT4 comparisons were bogus.  Have you ever voiced this concern to those that espouse the comparison?     

Anyway, I will take back the hypocrisy claim I made about you, since you have clarified your stance.  But I would expect you to do the same for me...  just as you are against both of the comparions, I think both comparisons are entirely valid.  I believe that so far GT5 is doing well in relation to GT4 and LBP2 is doing very badly in comparsion to LBP, so where is the hypocrisy?

And once last time.... I'm not "bashing" its sales, I am merely illustrating, informing and discussing.  If we can only discuss positive aspects of anything then whats the point?   

If I voiced every concern I have then I'd be on here 24/7. Ultimately, I would imagine my stance against poor comparisons to be implicitly understood, in much the same way that - if I may invoke Godwin's Law - I don't announce my disapproval of Hitler but one can confidently infer that I do disapprove of him.

I feel that in my last post I conveyed as clearly as I can how I interpreted hypocrisy in your earlier post, so I won't repeat myself.

I agree there is no point if we can't discuss negative sales as well as positive sales, but discussion of negative sales should be carried out fairly and ingenuously, and since poor comparisons preclude such conditions I deemed it unwelcome bashing (for want of a better word).